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Jonathan90 28-09-2008 02:49

Japan 1Gbps
 
Don't you jsut love how the U.K is so technologically advanced not.

http://tech.slashdot.org/tech/08/09/27/1757211.shtml

Tell me that some of you aren't drooling lol.

moaningmags 28-09-2008 03:03

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:drool: at the price as well as the speed.

Jonathan90 28-09-2008 04:08

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lol tell me about it almost everywere in the world are more techologically advanced.

dev 28-09-2008 04:33

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having fibre to the home has nothing to do with being technologically advanced, it's more down to the money involved. as the uk way is 'the cheapest is the best way', we won't be seeing a 99%+ fibre to the home service for a while in the uk.

ikthius 28-09-2008 11:13

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I just hope that eventually, however has the power to authorise the increase will do so to be a force recond with in the modern world, and not be a laughing stock

Halcyon 28-09-2008 11:41

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Even in 5 years time we won't be there.
Maybe I should move to Japan.

Ignitionnet 28-09-2008 12:55

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Originally Posted by dev (Post 34643951)
having fibre to the home has nothing to do with being technologically advanced, it's more down to the money involved. as the uk way is 'the cheapest is the best way', we won't be seeing a 99%+ fibre to the home service for a while in the uk.

Our Government is too busy bailing out banks / building societies to consider spending on infrastructure at the moment unfortunately.

As you rightly said the UK way is cheapest even if it's also the most short term solution. We are sadly incredibly good at short-termism here. Better to spend a billion now then 20 billion later than just spend the 20 billion and be done with it.

Plus we have Ofcom who are hardly the paragon of efficiency or virtue for that matter, along with a number of interested parties for whom the status quo is the best and most profitable way.

piggy 28-09-2008 14:08

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34644041)
Our Government is too busy bailing out banks / building societies to consider spending on infrastructure at the moment unfortunately.

As you rightly said the UK way is cheapest even if it's also the most short term solution. We are sadly incredibly good at short-termism here. Better to spend a billion now then 20 billion later than just spend the 20 billion and be done with it.

Plus we have Ofcom who are hardly the paragon of efficiency or virtue for that matter, along with a number of interested parties for whom the status quo is the best and most profitable way.

i do agree but best and most profitable are rarely if ever the same.

Stuart 28-09-2008 14:30

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Originally Posted by Jonathan90 (Post 34643949)
lol tell me about it almost everywere in the world are more techologically advanced.

Actually, last time I looked at a table showing average broadband speeds for various countries, the UK was about 12th or 13th in the world.. Yes, there are a lot of countries with faster connections, but a lot more with either no broadband or slower broadband (including a lot of the US).

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Originally Posted by dev (Post 34643951)
having fibre to the home has nothing to do with being technologically advanced, it's more down to the money involved. as the uk way is 'the cheapest is the best way', we won't be seeing a 99%+ fibre to the home service for a while in the uk.

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Originally Posted by Broadbandings (Post 34644041)
Our Government is too busy bailing out banks / building societies to consider spending on infrastructure at the moment unfortunately.

As you rightly said the UK way is cheapest even if it's also the most short term solution. We are sadly incredibly good at short-termism here. Better to spend a billion now then 20 billion later than just spend the 20 billion and be done with it.

Plus we have Ofcom who are hardly the paragon of efficiency or virtue for that matter, along with a number of interested parties for whom the status quo is the best and most profitable way.

Actually I suspect it's a combination of things. It's big business wanting to maximise their profits (a good idea, but they do it at the expense of customers which IMO is bad for the future).

It's also to do with a combination of our (tory lite) government being in love with privatisation and frightened to take on big businesses. For instance, both the Gas Board and Thames water have been digging up large parts of London replacing our aging gas, water and sewer networks. We are in an ideal position for the Government to follow the Swedish example and introduce a non-profit internet service reseller to provide fibre to the premises and do so reletively cheaply by putting fibre down the ducting used for the mains supplies, or down the sewers while workmen have been digging them up.

Have the government done this? Nope, they are content for BT to promise fibre to the home at the pathetic rate they are (yes, the money they plan to invest is a lot, but it is a fraction of one percent of what's needed) and for Virgin to make some vague promises about expanding the cable network at some point.

We aren't a technological backwater yet, but unless those in Authority pull their fingers out, we will be, and will have to suffer the economic consequences of that. Quite a few international companies have their European or World headquarters in London, is that likely to happen if we can't offer up to date communications systems?

demented 28-09-2008 16:24

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Had to live with a korean for a while who was pretty annoyed at having to pay their share £4 a month of a 13Mbs connection and thought what incredibly poor value for money this speed was. She didn't realise what a good speed this was in the UK. Thought it pretty much summed things up :).

chickendippers 28-09-2008 21:27

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I'm not sure where you'll download at 1Gbps from; our datacentre in the US only provides 100Mb uplinks and I've never seen anything higher than 1Gbps (so one customer per server).

Stuart 28-09-2008 21:40

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Originally Posted by chickendippers (Post 34644246)
I'm not sure where you'll download at 1Gbps from; our datacentre in the US only provides 100Mb uplinks and I've never seen anything higher than 1Gbps (so one customer per server).

Use a download manager like Getright to download using connections to multiple servers?

Ignitionnet 28-09-2008 21:48

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Originally Posted by chickendippers (Post 34644246)
I'm not sure where you'll download at 1Gbps from; our datacentre in the US only provides 100Mb uplinks and I've never seen anything higher than 1Gbps (so one customer per server).

Big DCs run multiple 10GbE uplinks, some extremely high traffic servers have 10GbE cards.

I've seen Akamai servers with 10GbE network cards and uplinks.

The Hitman 29-09-2008 10:04

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Originally Posted by Jonathan90 (Post 34643949)
lol tell me about it almost everywere in the world are more techologically advanced.

Thats a lie. According to our Right Honourable Trustworthy Communist Dictator Leader.Our Gordon Brown. We are BroadBand Britian. One of the most techologically advanced society in the world today. :p:

tweetiepooh 29-09-2008 12:13

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It's easier to provide really high speeds if everyone is living in the city in big blocks of flats. Think of the cost providing that sort of like to our more widely spread population mostly in their own separated properties.


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