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Osem 12-06-2008 12:44

David Davis to resign
 
Another by election is on the way as David Davis resigns apparently due to internal differences about the Tory stance on the 42 days issue.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7450627.stm

frogstamper 12-06-2008 12:46

Re: David Davis to resign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34573717)
Another by election is on the way as David Davis resigns apparently due to internal differences about the Tory stance on the 42 days issue.

Do you mean shadow home secretary David Davis Osem, or the other one.?

Damien 12-06-2008 12:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34573717)
Another by election is on the way as David Davis resigns apparently due to internal differences about the Tory stance on the 42 days issue.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/7450627.stm

All but one of them voted against though? Were there any didnt vote?

Osem 12-06-2008 12:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by frogstamper (Post 34573721)
Do you mean shadow home secretary David Davis Osem, or the other one.?

The Shadow Home Secretary - the other one is David Davies IIRC.

BBKing 12-06-2008 12:53

Re: David Davis to resign
 
Department of WTF?

Davis has been consistently (and I hate to say it, since I disagree with him on a lot of things) principled on the subject of defending British liberties, so to see him apparently at odds with his partys neocon wing* is highly worrying, particularly if he's losing. I suspect there may be differences over how far a Tory government should go in rolling back the New Labour police state framework.

I actually thought he'd make a much better candidate for London Mayor than Johnson, since he's actually from London and isn't an undisciplined, lazy buffoon. Perhaps there's a job for him there.

* such as Michael Gove and the website Conservative Home, colloquially known as 'Continuity IDS'. It's often underestimated how powerful a figure Ian Duncan Smith is on the hard right of the Conservative Party.

frogstamper 12-06-2008 13:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Osem (Post 34573728)
The Shadow Home Secretary - the other one is David Davies IIRC.

If this is true Osem you've made my day, because its goodbye to a wolf in sheep's clothing.:)

BBKing 12-06-2008 13:06

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The Tory blogger Iain Dale was Davis' chief of staff for his leadership campaign and has posted this:

Quote:

Earlier today I had decided to have a three day break from blogging, for reasons which I will explain later on today or tomorrow. Just as well I didn't.

David Davis is resigning from the Shadow Cabnet, resignng his seat and will fight a by election on the 42 days issue.
http://iaindale.blogspot.com/2008/06...s-resigns.html

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Guardian now reporting he'll stand as an independent. All extremely interesting. He'll be joining the Lib Dems next, the way they're going.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2....conservatives

Damien 12-06-2008 13:12

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Good for him!

He is fighting on the purpose of protecting liberties as a way, I guess, of saying there is a mandate for preventing the commons from pushing forward yet more awful laws.

The Lib Dems may not field a candidate in that election, according to the BBC the Lib Dem leadership is asking the local party not to put someone forward.

Osem 12-06-2008 13:22

Re: David Davis to resign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34573729)
Department of WTF?

Davis has been consistently (and I hate to say it, since I disagree with him on a lot of things) principled on the subject of defending British liberties, so to see him apparently at odds with his partys neocon wing* is highly worrying, particularly if he's losing. I suspect there may be differences over how far a Tory government should go in rolling back the New Labour police state framework.

I actually thought he'd make a much better candidate for London Mayor than Johnson, since he's actually from London and isn't an undisciplined, lazy buffoon. Perhaps there's a job for him there.

* such as Michael Gove and the website Conservative Home, colloquially known as 'Continuity IDS'. It's often underestimated how powerful a figure Ian Duncan Smith is on the hard right of the Conservative Party.

I thought you didn't like unpleasant ad hominem attacks.

BBKing 12-06-2008 13:23

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Lord, I was joking about the Lib Dems...

If you're listening, New Labour, don't bother putting up a candidate. Waste of a deposit.

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Quote:

I thought you didn't like unpleasant ad hominem attacks.
I don't like off-topic posts, either, Osem.

Osem 12-06-2008 13:24

Re: David Davis to resign
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BBKing (Post 34573759)
Lord, I was joking about the Lib Dems...

If you're listening, New Labour, don't bother putting up a candidate. Waste of a deposit.

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I don't like off-topic posts, either, Osem.

What's the Mayor of London got to do with this thread then?

Paul 12-06-2008 13:25

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I dont like off topic arguments, so pack it in both you .. now. :nono:

BBKing 12-06-2008 13:37

Re: David Davis to resign
 
Leaving that lying there, unloved and forgotten, will the Tories put up a candidate against Davis? They're apparently not going to support him financially.

Last election:

Tories: 22,792
Lib Dem: 17,676
Labour: 6,104

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005/html/290.stm

In other words, add the Lib Dem and Tory votes together and you'll get a thumping for Labour, which I suspect may be the point. Even if the Tories put up their own candidate I suspect there are enough Lib Dem voters who'd switch and enough Tories who'd vote for the man rather than the party to win comfortably, too.

Osem 12-06-2008 13:40

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Cameron's just saying how much he agrees with David Davis which makes it rather hard to understand why we have a resignation. :confused:

Perhaps it's a olive branch.......

Oh dear Cameron's live statement has just been hijacked by a what appears to be a disatisfied customer of the NHS .......

frogstamper 12-06-2008 13:43

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This has to be a publicity stunt...if he is going to stand for re-election is he going to stand as an independent conservative?


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