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Hugh 15-05-2008 19:54

California lifts gay marriage ban
 
"California's top court has ruled that a state law banning marriage between same-sex couples is unconstitutional.

The state's Supreme Court said the "right to form a family relationship" applied to all Californians regardless of sexuality.........

......The decision is expected to re-invigorate the fight for same-sex marriage rights nationwide, say gay activists and legal experts.
California's Supreme Court has a history of landmark rulings that are later picked nationally."

BBC

Mr_love_monkey 15-05-2008 21:36

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Quite right too - don't see why gays should be allowed to escape the misery the rest of us 'normal' people have to live with. :)

homealone 15-05-2008 21:57

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34553197)
Quite right too - don't see why gays should be allowed to escape the misery the rest of us 'normal' people have to live with. :)

/ looks up statistics on 'new dads likely to turn gay' :D

Hugh 15-05-2008 22:33

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Originally Posted by Mr_love_monkey (Post 34553197)
Quite right too - don't see why gays should be allowed to escape the misery the rest of us 'normal' people have to live with. :)

Obviously, you are a new definition of "normal" that the rest of us hadn't come across before............ :D

PeteTheMusicGuy 16-05-2008 09:31

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About time :) Everyone should be treated the same

Russ 16-05-2008 10:20

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Probably just a token gesture. Not sure where I read it but apparently, and I could be wrong on this, but the number of gay 'divorces' in the UK is rocketing, leading to suggestions that most 'signed up' because they could rather than they wanted to.

cookie_365 16-05-2008 18:29

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34553408)
Probably just a token gesture. Not sure where I read it but apparently, and I could be wrong on this, but the number of gay 'divorces' in the UK is rocketing, leading to suggestions that most 'signed up' because they could rather than they wanted to.

Well, since you've only been able to dissolve a civil partnership since the end of 2006, it'd be strange if they'd been falling ;)

Russ 16-05-2008 18:30

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Originally Posted by cookie_365 (Post 34553774)
Well, since you've only been able to dissolve a civil partnership since the end of 2006, it'd be strange if they'd been falling ;)

I'm not sure what the actual statistics are - but apparently the amount filing for 'divorce' is much higher than anticipated.

joker 16-05-2008 18:52

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34553408)
Probably just a token gesture. Not sure where I read it but apparently, and I could be wrong on this, but the number of gay 'divorces' in the UK is rocketing, leading to suggestions that most 'signed up' because they could rather than they wanted to.

Or perhaps they just wast not meant to be, or perhaps one played away from home. They are many suggestions as to why this happens. Seems to be its nothing different to that of some 'marriages'.

c_r 16-05-2008 19:04

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Originally Posted by Russ B (Post 34553775)
I'm not sure what the actual statistics are - but apparently the amount filing for 'divorce' is much higher than anticipated.

This article from Feb 2008 would suggest otherwise:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/fe...ayrights.world

"Grew said that the low rate so far of gay divorce - known as 'dissolution' of a civil partnership - and the long time spent together by many couples who form one, 'shows that gay people are treating them with due solemnity and respect. Generally, they take them more seriously than many people who get married. The people who go for it are older, have been together longer and have more committed relationships. That's why we won't see the 40 per cent or 50 per cent divorce rates we see in heterosexual marriages,' he

Russ 16-05-2008 19:07

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Originally Posted by joker (Post 34553784)
Or perhaps they just wast not meant to be, or perhaps one played away from home. They are many suggestions as to why this happens. Seems to be its nothing different to that of some 'marriages'.

Yes, it's different as civil partnerships have only recently been legalised. It seems many rushed in to it as a statement against prejudice as opposed to why couple really should be together.

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Originally Posted by c_r (Post 34553795)
This article from Feb 2008 would suggest otherwise:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/fe...ayrights.world

"Grew said that the low rate so far of gay divorce - known as 'dissolution' of a civil partnership - and the long time spent together by many couples who form one, 'shows that gay people are treating them with due solemnity and respect. Generally, they take them more seriously than many people who get married. The people who go for it are older, have been together longer and have more committed relationships. That's why we won't see the 40 per cent or 50 per cent divorce rates we see in heterosexual marriages,' he

Well that article says one thing, the report I read says another. It's up to the individual which side to take I guess.

Shaun 16-05-2008 20:46

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If you give a link Russ it will be. :)

Russ 16-05-2008 20:54

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As I said I can't remember where is was (it was just after Christmas anyway, not long after the 1st anniversary), people are of course free to make up their minds on the matter. I might be wrong about the situation but I certainly read about it.

Time will tell ;)

Shaun 17-05-2008 11:02

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Time will tee Russ - but without all the facts one can only rely on their own experience.

I've been with my partner for 8 years (in July) and we're getting hitched in August - I can't see it likely that a dissolution would be on the cards in the near future.

Russ 17-05-2008 16:05

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You're gay???? :shocked:


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