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trevortt 28-04-2008 13:56

Police payout £2.3m for accidents
 
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More than £2m was paid out by Yorkshire's police forces to people involved in accidents with speeding police cars, new figures have revealed.

One victim, Angela Singh, was driving with her two young sons in Leeds when a police car hit them after going through a red traffic light.

Her eldest son Gorave needed 35 stitches and his brother suffered cuts and bruises. Mrs Singh sued the local force and won compensation.
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Its shocking is this, i always knew that a majority of police where i live were corrupt, sometimes when i am in town you will see the police throwing litter on the floor regardless if their near a bin or not or spitting, smoking cigarettes and then dumping them on the floor and speeding. And the police are supposed to be role models, they are supposed to tell us right from wrong not do the opposite.

Atleast some of them have been caught, what i find hard to believe is..

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The spokesman added that despite investigations it has been unable to trace the drivers of 13 police vehicles caught speeding last year.
So the police do not know who is driving their vehicles, well that's a load of BS as far as i am concerned.

haydnwalker 28-04-2008 16:49

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I sort of agree...As far as I'm concerned, the police should be trained to the highest standard possible in everything they do (including driving and litter laws).

If they aren't going to follow the rules then what gives them the right to enforce the law on us? (The law and the nature of their jobs obviously but it was just a "if they dont do it why should we" thing...)

frogstamper 28-04-2008 17:06

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This has been a problem for years in the UK, who do the police give chase to, and when not to. A few years ago the BBC filmed a documentary at the police advanced driving school, and one of the phrases used by the instructors caused an inquiry at the time, Golf, Lima, Foxtrot which translated to "go like ..." it was due to this there was an overhaul of the teaching methods at the school, eg: to stop encouraging young officers to react to the red mist

rogerdraig 28-04-2008 17:43

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police as such dont have to obey speed limits ( The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, reg 87 ) and are bound to have accidents

the amount of money they are talking about there is not that much and is only quoted because mostly these vehicles are not insured in the same way our cars are and thier accident rates are not huge when you consider they spend a lot of time rushing to help US

as to not knowing who was driving which would you prefere next time a officer is rushing to attend a 999 call and wants the first car available that he signs out the car or just goes

remember he / she may have to then stay at the sceen and may or may not take that car back

i would prefere these papers and programs concerntrated on real coruption that there is rather than this

trevortt 28-04-2008 17:56

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Originally Posted by rogermevans (Post 34540288)
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police as such dont have to obey speed limits ( The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, reg 87 )

Oh right, so its one rule for them and another for us. Bad example, we all follow one rule or there is no rules at all.. Having two sides is bad and will lead to chaos.

Next time i know someone who has got a speeding ticket i will tell them to bring up The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, reg 87.

Hugh 28-04-2008 17:58

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Originally Posted by trevortt (Post 34540138)
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Its shocking is this, i always knew that a majority of police where i live were corrupt, ...snippety snip.

Funnily enough, I live in Yorkshire, and I know quite a few officers from various forces (Wakefield, Leeds, Bradford -including an Inspector in the Internal Investigations area), and I have to disagree with you on that statement - then again, I try not to making sweeping generalisations about any group of people.

I am sure there are, as in any profession, a number who do not live up to the high standards expected - that doesn't (imho) mean all, or the majority, don't maintain those standards.

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Originally Posted by trevortt (Post 34540298)
Oh right, so its one rule for them and another for us. Bad example, we all follow one rule or there is no rules at all.. Having two sides is bad and will lead to chaos.

Next time i know someone who has got a speeding ticket i will tell them to bring up The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, reg 87.

trev, if they had to obey the speed limits, how would they catch speeders? btw, they can be prosecuted for dangerous driving.

trevortt 28-04-2008 18:12

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34540300)
Funnily enough, I live in Yorkshire, and I know quite a few officers from various forces (Wakefield, Leeds, Bradford -including an Inspector in the Internal Investigations area), and I have to disagree with you on that statement - then again, I try not to making sweeping generalisations about any group of people.

I am sure there are, as in any profession, a number who do not live up to the high standards expected - that doesn't (imho) mean all, or the majority, don't maintain those standards.

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trev, if they had to obey the speed limits, how would they catch speeders? btw, they can be prosecuted for dangerous driving.

Yes, i know they have to break the speed limits to catch criminals, but i am on about the police not on duty, or rushing to get a bloody kebab or just simply can't be bothered waiting behind a red light so turn their lights & sirens on till they get past the traffic lights then turn them off again. TYPICAL ****.

papa smurf 28-04-2008 18:27

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close ranks and cover up.... what else did you expect , does anyone have a photo of a police officer its that long since i saw one round here i've forget what they look like ,? they do still exist dont they or are they an urban myth ???.

trevortt 28-04-2008 18:31

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Originally Posted by papa smurf (Post 34540322)
close ranks and cover up.... what else did you expect , does anyone have a photo of a police officer its that long since i saw one round here i've forget what they look like ,? they do still exist dont they or are they an urban myth ???.

I see them everyday..

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/04/5.jpg

oh i forgot, the bobbies on the beat, never see them anymore.

Escapee 28-04-2008 18:33

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Originally Posted by foreverwar (Post 34540300)
Funnily enough, I live in Yorkshire, and I know quite a few officers from various forces (Wakefield, Leeds, Bradford -including an Inspector in the Internal Investigations area), and I have to disagree with you on that statement - then again, I try not to making sweeping generalisations about any group of people.

I am sure there are, as in any profession, a number who do not live up to the high standards expected - that doesn't (imho) mean all, or the majority, don't maintain those standards.

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trev, if they had to obey the speed limits, how would they catch speeders? btw, they can be prosecuted for dangerous driving.

They do have to obey the speed limits if they are not on an emergency call though.

A number of years ago in my town they placed a mobile camera van on a section of dual carraigeway with a 50mph limit. They were at first boasting and patting themselves on the back claiming how the number of speeders they had caught in the first week of using the mobile camera at that location would net £50k.

The red faced chief constable within a few weeks was having to answer why a number of police cars without flashing lights and not on emergency calls, during that week had been exceeding the speed limit. To further add to that about 13 incidents occured where officers had not signed the car out, and the red faced chief was apologising that his officers were less than honest and indicating that they should do the right thing and step forward.

Yeah right they would.:rolleyes:

Of course we also have the coppers in our area who were suspended for using police cars to go to the seaside at Weston during their working shift. They only got caught because the car broke down on that occassion, and it then came out that it had been a frequent occurance for a gang of coppers. (I think they were named the Seaside gang by other officers who knew of it)

papa smurf 28-04-2008 18:33

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Originally Posted by trevortt (Post 34540326)
I see them everyday..

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2008/04/5.jpg

oh i forgot, the bobbies on the beat, never see them anymore.

ahahaa thats where johny 5 went

punky 28-04-2008 18:46

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Originally Posted by trevortt (Post 34540298)
Oh right, so its one rule for them and another for us. Bad example, we all follow one rule or there is no rules at all.. Having two sides is bad and will lead to chaos.

Next time i know someone who has got a speeding ticket i will tell them to bring up The Road Traffic Regulation Act 1984, reg 87.

So next time you are chased by a gang of knife-wieding Asians (which judging by your posts must happen frequently), be sure to let the 999 operator you don't want immediate assistance.

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Originally Posted by trevortt (Post 34540306)
TYPICAL ****.

Ahh, the usual informative, researched, intelligent post that we've come to expect from you. Normally I get upset by insults against people I know and respect. Fortunately your posts are all complete nonsense, so there's no need.

Xaccers 28-04-2008 18:46

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Some of my fastest times back from Grimsby have been while following a police car driving well over the speed limit (in some cases faster than I felt comfortable doing) without their lights going.

trevortt 28-04-2008 18:51

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Originally Posted by Gavin (Post 34540352)
So next time you are chased by a gang of knife-wieding Asians (which judging by your posts must happen frequently), be sure to let the 999 operator you don't want immediate assistance.

As stated by Escapee

They do have to obey the speed limits if they are not on an emergency call though.

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Ahh, the usual informative, researched, intelligent post that we've come to expect from you. Normally I get upset by insults against people I know and respect. Fortunately your posts are all complete nonsense, so there's no need.
If my post are informative why do you waste your time in replying to them? Also, this is the internet, i can and will say what i like.

papa smurf 28-04-2008 18:58

Re: Police payout £2.3m for accidents
 
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Originally Posted by Xaccers (Post 34540353)
Some of my fastest times back from Grimsby have been while following a police car driving well over the speed limit (in some cases faster than I felt comfortable doing) without their lights going.

theres a special bylaw that allows you to speed away from Grimsby cos its a dump:D


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