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chrisjj 19-01-2007 19:30

NTL late payment fee scam
 
I paid a 1 Dec bill on 29th Dec, yet on my 1 Jan bill NTL added a £10 Late Payment Fee.

NTL Customer Services insists this is due to failing to meet a requirement for payment within 28 days set out int in the terms and conditions and on the bill back. I can find it nowhere in either place. NTL were likewise unable to identify the location in either place.

Have other users suffered this illegal levying of a late payment fee? Who should NTL be reported to in order to get this scam stopped?

brundles 19-01-2007 20:07

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
The whole NTL: TW organisation recently changed their late payment approach to an immediate £10 charge - no warnings or exceptions. I'm not sure about the 28 days but the 29th does sound later than usual for a bill printed on the 1st. Our NTL: TW bill is usually generated around 24th and due around the 15th - or 3 weeks later.

Paul K 19-01-2007 20:12

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Does it not state a pay by date on your bill?
Quote:

6.2 If you do not make your payments on time, we may charge you a reasonable fee for late and/or non payment.

jellybaby 19-01-2007 20:19

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Thats all well and good Paul, but what is a reasonable fee ?

This is the problem the banks are having also.

Paul K 19-01-2007 20:22

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Which is why many people are contesting the fee in exactly the same way. Personally I think £10 is too much but then I think 28 days is a bit long to wait to pay a bill. (Just my opinion of course ;) )
Oh and to answer another part of the original post... you may want to ask Google if anyone else has been charged the same way. It's been going on since 2006

jellybaby 19-01-2007 20:23

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34201424)
Which is why many people are contesting the fee in exactly the same way. Personally I think £10 is too much but then I think 28 days is a bit long to wait to pay a bill. (Just my opinion of course ;) )

Appreciated :)

scrotnig 19-01-2007 20:37

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Pay the bill on time and there'll be no fee.

I can never understand why people agree to pay something by a certain date, then object to the company charging them when they don't.

Seems simple to me. There are substantial costs involved in chasing and processing late payments. The alternative to late payment charges is spreading this cost across ALL customers. I personally object to the idea that I should subsidise late payers. So I like it the way it is.

Mr Angry 19-01-2007 20:52

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisjj (Post 34201372)
I paid a 1 Dec bill on 29th Dec, yet on my 1 Jan bill NTL added a £10 Late Payment Fee.

NTL Customer Services insists this is due to failing to meet a requirement for payment within 28 days set out int in the terms and conditions and on the bill back. I can find it nowhere in either place. NTL were likewise unable to identify the location in either place.

Have other users suffered this illegal levying of a late payment fee? Who should NTL be reported to in order to get this scam stopped?

Can I ask, if you don't mind, was there a charge for payment by non direct debit methods included in the breakdown of your bill?

chrisjj 19-01-2007 21:10

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
> the 29th does sound later than usual for a bill printed on the 1st

"Later than usual" is not grounds for a penalty charge.

---------- Post added at 22:10 ---------- Previous post was at 22:10 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34201410)
Does it not state a pay by date on your bill?

No. Does it on yours?

Chimaera 19-01-2007 21:15

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul
Does it not state a pay by date on your bill?


No. Does it on yours?

No date on ours because we only have broadband with them now and it's an email notification.

chrisjj 19-01-2007 21:17

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
> Pasy the bill on time and there'll be no fee.

And what is "on time", pray?

Graham M 19-01-2007 21:18

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Before the due date... ?

chrisjj 19-01-2007 21:31

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Angry (Post 34201448)
Can I ask, if you don't mind, was there a charge for payment by non direct debit methods included in the breakdown of your bill?

Yes - £4. That is not in dispute, and I do not understand why some hereaouts call that a penalty and unenforceable.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph (Post 34201475)
Before the due date... ?

It says "payment is due immediately".

If you have a bank account with a time machine that will allow you to pay before this date, please do tell us where to get one!

Graham M 19-01-2007 21:36

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
No need to be balshy. I don't pay the NTL bill in this house but I'm sure there must be a "cut-off date" there generally is with most billing.

Paul K 19-01-2007 21:40

Re: NTL late payment fee scam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisjj

It says "payment is due immediately".

So it doesn't say "feel free to wait 28 days before paying the monies owed to us" ? NTL are asking you to pay your bill as soon as you receive the paper bill so that no mis-haps can occur that may cause you to incur a penalty.


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