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Wicked_and_Crazy

10-01-2007 22:09

Primary IDE or not?

Im a bit out of my depth here so please bare with me ;)

Numpty subcontracted MESH engineer came to visit yesterday to resolve a graphics problem i have. To cut a long story short he replaced the MOBO and installed a fresh copy of XP pro on the second drive.

Now i have a couple of iritations and concerns about the BIOS settings being right and things plugged into the right sockets

1. The hard drives are not on the primary IDE controller, the two DVD drives are on this controller and the hard drives are on the third IDE controller. Should i swap them??

2. They are both SATA drives, same size same make how should they be configured to get the best performance. I dont need raid and im not too keen on having files split across drives. Everytime i try to access the C drive now there seems to be a lag that wasnt there before

3. Final issue that has always been there. I keep getting this error in the event log

Source ati2mtag
Event id 52248
Description: CPLIB :: HDCP - Failed HDCP key binding verification

zing_deleted

10-01-2007 22:15

Re: Primary IDE or not?

so your os is on a sata? if this is the case your optical will be on primary ide on the mobo but the bios may not see it as ide 1 if sata are set for ide sometimes sata set to ide take priority.Do you now have 2 operating systems? does it try to dual boot? Sata drives are always master so it does not matter which one has the os on ive had os's spread all over machines when ive multi booted. As for why its lagging is c: still holding os or is it the old os?
Do you use hdcp off your gfx? if not and its not causing any problems then I wouldnt worry about

I would personally back up all data to whatever drive your gonna want to use as slave and volume label it spare then id open the case and ensure the drive you wish to use as operating system is on sata 0 or sata 1 whichever is the lowest . Then id perform a reinstall of windows to this drive. You wont make a mistake as you set the volume label of the slave so this will show up in set up :)

kfridge

10-01-2007 22:18

Re: Primary IDE or not?

I'm a bit confused...you mention IDE and SATA drives - which are which? If the hard drives are SATA and the DVD drives IDE then it shouldn't matter whether they are on the primary channel or not, which in turn should affect how the SATA drives are connected...

your last issue could be a driver issue...try updating the drivers for your graphics card to the latest ones. Download the latest catalyst drivers from here link

zing_deleted

10-01-2007 22:21

Re: Primary IDE or not?

The HDCP error would be caused either by a setting in the control centre or a problem in the WDM driver rather than the main driver I believe so dont install full driver package

kfridge

10-01-2007 22:40

Re: Primary IDE or not?

just re-read the OP and realised that the error is in the event log - i just presumed that it was occuring on boot which was the reason for updating the graphics drivers!

unless you are trying to access some HDCP content then I don't think the error is anything to worry about...patches to games seems to have solved the problem for some people though reading other forums (fora?)

zing_deleted

10-01-2007 22:46

Re: Primary IDE or not?

my understanding of HDCP is hi def over componant which is a cable that sits out of the gfx card and is driven by the wdm drivers and controled via the control centre software (which I hate btw) If control centre starts with the pc I would remove it from startup via msconfig its bloat as far as im concerned
I could well be totally wrong in my understanding and would welcome an education ;) :)
Educated myself and I was totally wrong ;) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP its DRm kill kill destroy. It appears to be somethign to do with your crossfire config

Wicked_and_Crazy

10-01-2007 22:55

Re: Primary IDE or not?

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195180)

yes the os is on a sata and it looks like its on raid1 as its on the master drive, to get it to boot into the other (corrupt) operating system i have to get it to boot from the salve sata which looks like its on sata 3

when it boots it says the optical drive are on the primary ide and the hard drives are in the third ide which confuses me

regarding the lag, c is always holding the active os as the c drive changes depending on which you boot from.

i dont know what hdcp is yet ;), just trying to get this thing running clean so i can ghost it

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Originally Posted by kfridge (Post 34195182)

your last issue could be a driver issue...try updating the drivers for your graphics card to the latest ones. Download the latest catalyst drivers from here link

already on the latest

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195209)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP its DRm kill kill destroy. It appears to be somethign to do with your crossfire config

hmmmm :confused:

zing_deleted

10-01-2007 22:57

Re: Primary IDE or not?

well there may well be a second native ide controller making the 3rd channel correct. personally I would do the back ups and mark the second drive as spare. Then id go into bios and ensure all sata controllers are either set to ata or base not raid .Then id reinstall windows to the drive not marked spare.

Wicked_and_Crazy

10-01-2007 22:59

Re: Primary IDE or not?

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195180)

I would personally back up all data to whatever drive your gonna want to use as slave and volume label it spare then id open the case and ensure the drive you wish to use as operating system is on sata 0 or sata 1 whichever is the lowest . Then id perform a reinstall of windows to this drive. You wont make a mistake as you set the volume label of the slave so this will show up in set up :)

This has already been done, just to be safe the slave was disconnected at the time of the install

zing_deleted

10-01-2007 23:01

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so why are you saying raid? if its all set to ata it wont be on a raid channel?

If that is the case then all is fine now you say c: lags so is this c: on main os or c: on hold os? as you said both drives are c: dependant on which os your on ;)

You could run a scan disk on boot using the chkdsk /r command in console on the os drive thats lagging of course also enure its defragged? use something like diskeeper so you can resize the MFT if needed :)

Wicked_and_Crazy

10-01-2007 23:05

Re: Primary IDE or not?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195226)

this is where im confused the hard drives appear in the bios on the third ide

its an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe mobo btw

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195234)

sorry i meant sata 3

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195234)

only appeared to lag on the OS i want to keep, but doesnt appear to be doing it now :mad:

zing_deleted

10-01-2007 23:05

Re: Primary IDE or not?

Then thats fine I to an running that board with os on first sata and optical on primary ide :) I also have drives on the hdd only second ide controller and sata drives on all but the asus ezraid which is crap

Wicked_and_Crazy

10-01-2007 23:07

Re: Primary IDE or not?

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195238)

Then thats fine I to an running that board with os on first sata and optical on promary ide :)

aha, then do you see the hard drives on the third ide? i dont see a second ide in the manual

Is there anyway i can compare my bios settings to yours to see if anything is amiss

zing_deleted

10-01-2007 23:08

Re: Primary IDE or not?

errrrm I wouldnt imagine you have done anything wrong it does sound right to me :)
I put my os hard drive on the lowest number sata in the cluster of 3 either 0 or 1 im not sure . In disk management it still shows as disk 0

Wicked_and_Crazy

10-01-2007 23:15

Re: Primary IDE or not?

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34195242)

my os drive is showing as disc 0 when i boot with the good os.

Not sure what happens if o boot from the slave and go to the corrupt OS

Everything else from a performance point of view is the same as before the mobo was changed, according to 3dmark06 so i assume that is telling me about the processor and GFX. I just get the feeling the drive is slower, could just be a mind thing

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