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How will you vote?
Also is it possible to prevent rep from being used to topics? This is a senstive topic and no one should be given negitive rep based on political belifs I may have to take that back if someone says BNP :mad: |
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? Not suggesting the torys are bad as the BNP are you :)
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I will be voting for Labour. However i have to accept that this two party system we have in place means that a change feels somewhat inevitable. Especially as we as a nation tend to be guided by the media. |
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just a small point , but , why is this in PC Gaming & Discussion :D :D :D :D , haway mods , get it shifted :D :D :D :D
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was it?
Oppps sorry, theres a lot of forums here :) |
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What about an option for non voting !!
They're all as bad as each other, however, I shall more than likely be voting for a party other than labour |
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Because i dont care about people who are not voting, :) Whats the ppoint of including them?
Why not labpur anyway they've done good |
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labour done good , obviously your opinion only :( |
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Very democratic of you. |
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Have voted labour all my life do not trust tory's have been around remember the 70's 80's and 90's under tory rule dont trust michael howard remember him from maggies days.
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I meant that I wanted to see about which partys where ahead. Otherwise the pages would be filled with pages about voter aperthy
Also, I dont really think that anyone can defend the BNP |
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I don't think anyone can defend the BNP either - BUT it IS a party and so is an option for people to vote for. Just my opinion - but if you really want a proper poll you should not exclude a party just because you don't like it. |
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If you dont vote then do not moan!!
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i will vote as i always have done (ok only voted once in my life before but shh) and that is secretly. thats why you cant go reading what people put on the ballot forms you know, so your vote is secret ;)
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theres is, dont vote in the poll :D |
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As it's a public poll I shall not be voting. :)
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LOL I just realised you could see who voted for what! |
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I on the other hand am happy to say I will vote Liberal Democrat.
Why? This is a Lib Dem ward already, and unlike either of the other parties they were against the horrifying events in the Middle East, and even have the gall to admit they will raise taxes to improve things, rather than just sneakily and dramatically increasing the tax burden. Labour have even managed to increase income tax on the sly - the top rate's barrier has not gone up with inflation, more people are paying top rate than would be had this happened. Makes me laugh I'm not far AT ALL from top rate tax, but can't afford to buy a house, even though I apparently am on a higher salary than 90% of the UK adult population. Meanwhile my tax is being used to play monkey boy to George Bush and the rest of his Neo-Con virtual fascists. New Labour my botty to be honest, they are no more Labour than the Conservatives - the only remotely Socialist party left is the Lib Dems, the other two are doing their utmost to become Neo-Conservative / Neo-Zionist with no regard for either the cost or their own people they alienate trying to be the 52nd state. Amusing that there is no money for this, or that, but Gee Dubbya comes calling and a few billion soon materialises. Terror politics rubbish that Tony is throwing at us mixed in with lies doesn't really appeal either. OP - I note you are 17. I'm not that much older than you but I remember when the political landscape was very very different. Now we are just America Junior - Tony even seems to be planning on trying to terrorise us to vote for him to cover up the failures domestically and most of all with foreign policy. I have voted Labour twice but frankly I'd rather not vote at all that vote for that bunch of scheming fibbing neo-Con whores that are the Nu Labour party, at least not while Tony is in charge. |
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I voted Lib Dem. I think that in the last few years, the Labour Party have c*cked it up. The Tories did before them. It's time for someone else to see how well they can c*ck it up.
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I'm thinking that the party system has had its day and am thinking of spoiling my ballot paper, just hope I can write small enough to fit everything I want to say on :)
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I live in an area where historically on the face of it my vote will make little difference to the eventual outcome.
Having said that, if I do not vote then I do not feel I will have the moral right to comment on the party in power. All I would say is that everyone who is entitled to vote, should vote. Remember that the present government achieved its 62.5% of seats on the basis of support from 24.2% of the electorate. So over 75% of the electorate didn't vote for them. |
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Unfortunately these days, the party system and the manifestos offered are so complex, that a choice of the voting option is frequently not about which party has the best policy, but which will, on balance, do the least damage to you the individual. For example, you might agree with the concept of spending more on schools and NHS, and so vote labour or Lib dem, but you also want better law and order and clamp downs on asylum seekers traditionally an area where the conservatives have better ideas. So you end up voting Monster Raving Loony :dozey: |
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But then again if it ever came to pass that voting was compulsary, it would end any traces of the UK being a democracy.
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well the Fact that labour's majority is so big thay can't
lose 101-seat over all makes the election a bit of a joke really :mad: right now am what the pollsters call a swing voter i just can't make up my mind |
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LOL - not my political leaning at all m8. :) Just making the point that if people don't vote...... look what you could end up with. ;) |
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Sorry, I think my post has been misinterpreted. :blush:
I didn't mean that people should be forced to vote.... just that if more people did vote the result would be more representative. :) |
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Any talk of voting brings to mind my history teacher, 4' 11" and the voice of a sargeant major on drill parade. She drummed into us girls the importance of voting and how people had died to give us the right to vote. Having said that I can't see any party that impresses so it might be the Monster Raving Looney mob (I'll fit in well there ;) )
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hell why don't i just stand for Parliament am way more
inTouch with the People than all the politicians could ever wish to be so what to you say gang SDA for mp :cool: |
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I always vote GREEN, thanks to PR we now have 2 MEPs which would never have gotten in with First Past the Post.
I've always thought the 'None of the above' option should be added, like in Brewsters Millions. I was gonna stand, as the 'None of the above' Party, giving people the option of showing that they wanna vote but not for anyone on the balot paper. At the moment there isnt a way to register a protest vote, as spiolt papers dont really count. |
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Theres an 'other' section ya know?
All other partys can go in there and again if you dont wanna vote they this is not the topic for you as it will just lead to people complaining about the system and such. |
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It wouldnt be so good if labour had to agree with the torys or libb dem. Its doent make the election a joke, a overwealming amount of people voted them in so they have more control |
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I'll be voting how I always do.
By going into the booth and putting an X against the party I support :D |
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I will vote laboour or monster raving loony party! now theres a party with iits head stuck on right
My view is that if you dont vote you cant really use that to moarn about there not be a party or the system doesnt work. If you dont like it vote for a inderpendent MP and then try to change the system. Personnally I dont see whats actually wrong with the system? The countrys doing ok, The system is doing alright |
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Who will I vote for next time? - That's a tough one.
At the moment I'm toying with the idea of getting together a campaign to get people to deface their ballot papers - with the hope being that if we get enough people to do it, then maybe it would show the general unhappiness with all the options on offer - It's idealistic and would probably have no effect, but I can dream.... :) These days, it's hard to tell the difference between Lab and Con, since Lab has gone to the right, Con has gone to the left, and they've met in the middle. Policies between the 2 these days seem to consist of one party saying "we're going to do X" and the other party saying "Oh yes, we were going to do that", or "That's what we thought too". - Look at this budget just gone by - The amount being saved in public spending by reducing the civil service jobs, is exactly the same amount that the conservatives were planning on cutting it by. The Lib Dems, to me, are still an nothing party - perhaps if one day they get a leader who has something going for him, rather than just a large backside, which is needed so that he can sit on all those fences - maybe I'll think that voting for them won't be a waste of a vote - at the end of the day, I don't see how you can vote for a party that won't actually decide what it is they stand for, other than the usual nah-saying of whatever the government does. I lost track of the number of things that Charles Kennedy refused to give an opinion on. How can you have any political respect for a party that basically says 'we have some opinions, but we're not going to tell you what they are'. The rest of the parties are all seat fillers, that have zero chance of ever getting elected. So basically the answer is, I don't know.... Maybe I'll stand, and try and make Waddon a Repulic. |
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What you have to realise with the likes of the BNP is that the BNP is the political party, the NF, C18 etc are all hangers on, the ones that commit the violence are NOT the BNP. The people that are so against right wing parties need to realise that a lot of people are against left wing parties also. The people that claim racism is rife need to look at the poor white charity worker who was not allowed to attend a charity dinner because of the colour of her skin (was in the papers yesterday). The BNP is going to gain more power because the law allows situations like these to happen. Many people in this country do not want the asylum seekers, they do not want migrant workers, look at the political parties on offer, who do you think will get the vote from these people? However this is not important, If I vote BNP then thats my choice, If I dont vote thats also my choice. What we need is a section on the ballot that says "None of the above" which is a way to register that the party manifestos are not convincing and are not what the public wants. |
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So what will happen is the BNP (or someone) will say, yes, we'll stop the influx, we'll get council tax down, we'll stop Johnnie Foreigner taking all the jobs - and people will be disillusioned and angry enough to want to show they they have had enough, and that they want something done about the issues - and they will vote for them. Of course they won't see the small print - which says 'oh yes, and after we've done that - we start forcibly repatriating people, that we don't consider to be 'pure' british, never mind if you've been here all your life, eventually it will be if you're not what we consider to be the ideal white person, then chances are you're being removed' - and when it does start happening, and when they do start knocking on my door, on my neighbours door, by then it will be too late. I'm reminded of a poem by Reverend Martin Niemoller Quote:
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With the greatest of respect, what's that got to do with anything? I don't live in any of those countries? |
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I'd vote Tory, but i'm still not happy about that fool Howard running the country. He's gotta be better than Blair thought.
I so wish IDS was still the leader of the conservatives, He' would be a good PM IMHO. |
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I think JANoob was making a point that compulsory voting doesn't stop a democracy. |
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Since there's clearly so many who feel unable to vote, as the current options offer no real choice, or through the party system, you like part of the manifesto, but hate other parts, we need something different. So a suggestion, albeit I'm not sure how practical it is.
Voters are presented with a range of policies for each issue, and options on those policies, at the ballot, the voter selects their preference for each option, do it, don't do it, spend more, spend less, etc. It's not a case of having one separate ballot for each different issue, like is proposed if we ever do go for ditching the pound. There would be one ballot dealing with lots of issues. Yes ballots might need to be held every year, instead of every 4-5 years, but effectively we do that for local councils. As to how we then choose our MPs or whoever, it would probably be some sort of proportional representation, based on the supporters of the different policies. |
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It's viewed as a civic duty along with paying your taxes, etc. I wouldn't mind seeing it introduced here... we'd be in with a chance of getting a Government that was actually voted for by a majority instead of low turnouts as people don't want to choose between the helpless and the hopeless. |
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I was on about the real elections, not your vote. :) There should be a 'NONE of the Above' section on the REAL election ballot. IMHO Then there would be no excuse for apathy, as a non vote could be registered. |
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Altho I dont agree with compulsory voting, I think PR would go a long way to redressing the apathy most people feel when they vote on the FPTP system. If your stuck in a strongly one sided constituency, it so easy to feel your vote is futile, But with PR even a relative small number of votes can make a difference. I like the Starship Troopers approach too, where you have to have served in the army before you can vote. :) Or at least the Peace corps if not the army, so as to gain a sense of civic responsibility. |
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I am reminded of that great Gore Vidal quote that goes along the lines of
'Don't vote - it only encourages them' :) Personaly I would like to see an option of 'none of the above' on ballot forms. I rarely voted in the UK, not because I was too lazy or unconcerned to do so, but simply because there was no one that I wanted to vote ofr. I would have voted however if I could have actively shown that there was no one that I wanted to vote for, if you see what I mean. A general election where the biggest single 'winner' was 'none of the above' would send a pretty clear signal to the existing parties imo. |
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...but it comes back to my question of what you would do if there was no clear winner. A coalition of political parties? - each one having a voice - no matter how distasteful it might be (a la BNP) - the 2 strongest forming a coalition? Does anyone else have any ideas? |
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But they do need some sort of 'bloody nose' cuz even with the beating the Conservatives got in the last 2 elections they still havent learnt any lessions, and Labour are still too cocky to take any notice of anything sort of a landslide lose. |
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