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Neil 17-03-2004 09:34

Budget 2004
 
Thought I'd start this thread in preperation for todays Budget.

I can feel Gordon Brown's hand digging deeper into my pocket already.....:erm:

gary_580 17-03-2004 09:36

Re: Budget 2004
 
ahh but he'll make it not so bad by delaying a few things until youve forgotten about the budget

downquark1 17-03-2004 09:39

Re: Budget 2004
 
Is it budget time again already :geez:

bopdude 17-03-2004 10:09

Re: Budget 2004
 
I heard a few bits on the radio this morning, car tax is expected to stay still and the usual "trying to save lives" by upping fag and petroltax...etc etc

Stuartbe 17-03-2004 10:10

Re: Budget 2004
 
Hmm the words blood and stone come to mind :)

Paul 17-03-2004 13:36

Re: Budget 2004
 
The words "robbiing bas***ds" comes to mind here .....

Nugget 17-03-2004 13:42

Re: Budget 2004
 
Hmmm, let's see - I smoke, drink and drive a car. Is there any way on this planet that I'm not going to end up about an extra 400 quid a month worse off :mad: :mad: :mad:

mdean 17-03-2004 13:54

Re: Budget 2004
 
Pathetic!!!! I give up smoking and they only go up by 8p a pack
pah

zendawn 17-03-2004 13:57

Re: Budget 2004
 
Cider stayed the same, I'm happy (hic). :)

Nice the extra £100 for the over 70's, cheaper council tax would have ben better for them.

aliferste 17-03-2004 14:13

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
Cider stayed the same, I'm happy (hic). :)


:) wahoo me too :)

Ramrod 17-03-2004 14:30

Re: Budget 2004
 
*Wonders if an election is imminent* :rolleyes: :D

Xaccers 17-03-2004 14:37

Re: Budget 2004
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2004/03/12.jpg
"mwhahahaha I've got you all by the balls"

gary_580 17-03-2004 14:46

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2004/03/12.jpg
"mwhahahaha I've got you all by the balls"


was he shaking it from side to side ? ;)

zendawn 17-03-2004 16:19

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by aliferste
:) wahoo me too :)

Just got the cider in, Gaymers 3 litres for £2.50 at somerfields.

punky 17-03-2004 16:34

Re: Budget 2004
 
Bloody 100 quid isn't going to help pensioners. the council tax for my house is £1200, not with the pittance they have to live on.

On the bright side, only a penny on beer, could be worse...

zendawn 17-03-2004 16:50

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky
On the bright side, only a penny on beer, could be worse...


When I first started going to pubs, about 17 years ago, you could buy a pint for a quid £1. So you could have a good night on a tenner £10 and still have change for a kebab. Now you'd be lucky to get by on £20 just for the drinks.

Yet I don't see wages doubling over the same time.

How come electrical equipment like computers becomes cheaper over time, but drink and food gets more expensive?

I like watching 'Open all Hours' cuz you can see the old prices in the shop, love seeing items, like Mars Bars for 14p that would be 40p now.

ian@huth 17-03-2004 17:28

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
When I first started going to pubs, about 17 years ago, you could buy a pint for a quid £1. So you could have a good night on a tenner £10 and still have change for a kebab. Now you'd be lucky to get by on £20 just for the drinks.

Yet I don't see wages doubling over the same time.

How come electrical equipment like computers becomes cheaper over time, but drink and food gets more expensive?

I like watching 'Open all Hours' cuz you can see the old prices in the shop, love seeing items, like Mars Bars for 14p that would be 40p now.

Hmm, guess what getting a round in and getting a ten bob note in the change from a pound says about my age.

Food tends to get dearer because it has a more or less fixed production and profit margins are protected by major players in the industry. Computers, TV's etc. tend to get cheaper because of ever improving production methods and chip design. You would not believe the difference in what you would find in a 70's computer against one of today. My expansion card to go from 512k of ram to 640k had more chips on it than McCain put in a large bag of fries. :D

zaax 17-03-2004 18:32

no rise in duty for spirits
 
no rise in duty on spirits. But a penny on a pint.

Could someone explain how the relates the government wanting to stop binge drinking?

Xaccers 17-03-2004 18:35

Re: no rise in duty for spirits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zaax
no rise in duty on spirits. But a penny on a pint.

Could someone explain how the relates the government wanting to stop binge drinking?


People binge drink lager, but not whiskey
MP's drink whiskey, but not lager

Atomic22 17-03-2004 18:47

Re: [Merged] Budget 2004
 
im just glad he never put car tax up...........especially to the stupid amount of 1000 quid that some mps wanted on big cars

Stuartbe 17-03-2004 18:48

Re: no rise in duty for spirits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
People binge drink lager, but not whiskey
MP's drink whiskey, but not lager

LOL - Thats about as spot on as you can get :D

Someone rep that man :) I have not been enough of a s1ut apparently :D

zaax 17-03-2004 18:55

Re: no rise in duty for spirits
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
People binge drink lager, but not whiskey
MP's drink whiskey, but not lager

I think they drink Vodka. Which I seem to have read somewhere is the drink with the highest sales.

Graham 17-03-2004 19:54

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by punky
On the bright side, only a penny on beer, could be worse...

Yes, you *could* be faced with a rise in your tax bill of almost *TWO THOUSAND POUNDS*! :mad: :mad:

That's exactly what I'm going to be stuck with because two years ago, thanks to Gordon Brown's idea for an "incentive" for small businesses, I incorporated as a limited company to take advantage of the first £10,000 of earnings being free from Corporation Tax.

Except it seems that this "incentive" is now a "loop hole" which means that I'm going to have to pay 19% tax on that first £10k.

Gee, thanks Gordon... :(

Julian 17-03-2004 19:58

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham
Yes, you *could* be faced with a rise in your tax bill of almost *TWO THOUSAND POUNDS*! :mad: :mad:

That's exactly what I'm going to be stuck with because two years ago, thanks to Gordon Brown's idea for an "incentive" for small businesses, I incorporated as a limited company to take advantage of the first £10,000 of earnings being free from Corporation Tax.

Except it seems that this "incentive" is now a "loop hole" which means that I'm going to have to pay 19% tax on that first £10k.

Gee, thanks Gordon... :(

I saw that too Graham.. :mad: :cry:

He only introduced that 2 years ago and now he has taken it away.That'll now cost me £2000 too. :fit:

Xaccers 17-03-2004 19:59

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham
Yes, you *could* be faced with a rise in your tax bill of almost *TWO THOUSAND POUNDS*! :mad: :mad:

That's exactly what I'm going to be stuck with because two years ago, thanks to Gordon Brown's idea for an "incentive" for small businesses, I incorporated as a limited company to take advantage of the first £10,000 of earnings being free from Corporation Tax.

Except it seems that this "incentive" is now a "loop hole" which means that I'm going to have to pay 19% tax on that first £10k.

Gee, thanks Gordon... :(

He's got you by the balls and is slowly squeezing

Graham 17-03-2004 20:03

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
He's got you by the balls and is slowly squeezing

Yeah. Well I ain't consenting :(

downquark1 18-03-2004 12:56

Re: [Merged] Budget 2004
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2004/03/10.jpg

gary_580 18-03-2004 13:08

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
When I first started going to pubs, about 17 years ago, you could buy a pint for a quid £1. So you could have a good night on a tenner £10 and still have change for a kebab. Now you'd be lucky to get by on £20 just for the drinks.

Yet I don't see wages doubling over the same time.

How come electrical equipment like computers becomes cheaper over time, but drink and food gets more expensive?

I like watching 'Open all Hours' cuz you can see the old prices in the shop, love seeing items, like Mars Bars for 14p that would be 40p now.


if your wages havent doubled in 17 years mate your in the wrong trade. Someone once told me my wages should double every 7 yrs for the first 14 working years and it was true for me.

Computers get cheaper cos they are cheaper to produce, need less people. Bit hard to make a luttuce grow faster and make it walk to the supermarket on its own!!

zendawn 18-03-2004 13:13

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gary_580
if your wages havent dobled in 17 years mate your in the wrong trade. Some one once told me my wages should double aver 7 yrs for the first 14 working years and it was true for me.

Computers get cheaper cos they are cheaper to produce, need less people. Bit hard to make a luttuce grow faster and make it walk to the supermarket on its own!!

My wages havent doubled cuz I've only worked 5 years out of the last 17.
I've either been unemployed or doing voluntary work. Bit out of touch with how wages have risen over the years.

I still think food prices should never rise, but thats a political view more than an economic one.

gary_580 18-03-2004 13:15

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
My wages havent doubled cuz I've only worked 5 years out of the last 17.
I've either been unemployed or doing voluntary work. Bit out of touch with how wages have risen over the years.

I still think food prices should never rise, but thats a political view more than an economic one.

food has to rise because transport costs rise.

zendawn 18-03-2004 13:19

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gary_580
food has to rise because transport costs rise.

Yeah I know how economics works, still doesnt mean that food has to cost more or even cost at all.

Xaccers 18-03-2004 13:30

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gary_580
Computers get cheaper cos they are cheaper to produce, need less people. Bit hard to make a luttuce grow faster and make it walk to the supermarket on its own!!

Now that would be some GM lettuce! :D

gary_580 18-03-2004 13:39

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
Yeah I know how economics works, still doesnt mean that food has to cost more or even cost at all.


food doesnt cost if you grow it yourself. Only costs your time.

ian@huth 18-03-2004 13:45

Re: Budget 2004
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gary_580
food doesnt cost if you grow it yourself. Only costs your time.

Any pointers to sites that offer you free seeds, fertilizer, chickens, cows, sheep, etc. and any ideas about how to grow enough wheat to supply our needs in a 2,000 sq ft garden? :D :D :D :D


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