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Ramrod 12-03-2004 08:06
ebay bidding
 
Whats to stop a sellers friend from 'bidding up' the price of an item?

Neil 12-03-2004 08:09
Re: ebay bidding
 
Nothing.

Ramrod 12-03-2004 08:11
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
Nothing.
As I suspected. I wonder how much of it goes on...?

Neil 12-03-2004 08:14
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
As I suspected. I wonder how much of it goes on...?
Quite a bit I would suspect. :(

Paulie 12-03-2004 08:18
Re: ebay bidding
 
Was there anything specific you were looking at? I use ebay a lot and always check the feedback, and the items that the seller has previously sold. A few times i`ve been a bit wary, so I just left well alone.

br3ach 12-03-2004 08:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Neil
Quite a bit I would suspect. :(
I am a regular ebay user and would backup what Neil says...

It does go on quite a bit.

Ramrod 12-03-2004 08:36
Re: ebay bidding
 
I am biding on something but I'm not suspicious. I was just wondering.
*edit* Here's an interesting bidding scam

Paulie 12-03-2004 08:55
Re: ebay bidding
 
Interesting little scam. Most of the time, I will put in a bid early on then do nothing until the last minute. I`ve found that some ebay newbies (my wife included) keep bidding from the off, just to be the highest bidder.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
I am biding on something but I'm not suspicious. I was just wondering.
*edit* Here's an interesting bidding scam

gary_580 12-03-2004 09:16
Re: ebay bidding
 
I think Ebay would notice in the end if one person kept puitting things for auction with no reserve and 99p start and the same id did the initial bids to up the anti. Rememebr on ebay you pay extra if you have reserve prices etc. Not sure ebay would do much about it as dont they take a % of the sale price.

At the end of the day you need to decide what the item is worth before you start bidding and stick to that price. If you get sucked into paying a higher price then you have become addicted

Ramrod 12-03-2004 09:32
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gary_580
At the end of the day you need to decide what the item is worth before you start bidding and stick to that price.
just like at any other auction... :)

gary_580 12-03-2004 10:03
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
just like at any other auction... :)

amazing how many peopel say oh well it was only £10 more. I used to get cars from the auction, a friend came with me once and though i was mad not to bid anouther £100 and a car that was going for around £6500. I can see their point, another £100 to get it. But then theres the arguement that £100 can become £200 then £500 and before you know it youve been stupid.

altis 12-03-2004 10:27
Re: ebay bidding
 
The clock on ebay is spot on. My solution was to buy a radio-controlled watch and only ever put in a bid when there's less than 5 seconds to go. With practice (and nerve) I can get it down to the last second. Also, this makes you seriously think about your maximum bid.

If it's a valuable item then do your research first. Read the listing very carefully and work out exactly what it does and doesn't say and what you are assuming. Has he/she previously bought the same or similar item? Make contact by asking a question. Does the reply give you complete confidence?

Paulie 12-03-2004 10:27
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I try to stick to an end figure, but it seems to be an end figure +20% most times. Human nature I suppose.

aliferste 12-03-2004 11:23
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
I am biding on something but I'm not suspicious. I was just wondering.
*edit* Here's an interesting bidding scam
I dont really understand that scam, all it seems to do is scare way ligit bidders leavig the lower bids :shrug:

Paulie 12-03-2004 11:31
Re: ebay bidding
 
I`ll remember never to bid against you then.:)
Quote:
Originally Posted by altis
The clock on ebay is spot on. My solution was to buy a radio-controlled watch and only ever put in a bid when there's less than 5 seconds to go. With practice (and nerve) I can get it down to the last second. Also, this makes you seriously think about your maximum bid.

If it's a valuable item then do your research first. Read the listing very carefully and work out exactly what it does and doesn't say and what you are assuming. Has he/she previously bought the same or similar item? Make contact by asking a question. Does the reply give you complete confidence?

br3ach 12-03-2004 11:33
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by altis
The clock on ebay is spot on. My solution was to buy a radio-controlled watch and only ever put in a bid when there's less than 5 seconds to go. With practice (and nerve) I can get it down to the last second. Also, this makes you seriously think about your maximum bid.

If it's a valuable item then do your research first. Read the listing very carefully and work out exactly what it does and doesn't say and what you are assuming. Has he/she previously bought the same or similar item? Make contact by asking a question. Does the reply give you complete confidence?
There are programs around that can monitor the auction and do these kind of bids for you...

Bid sniping is what it has been called..

Do a google search for ebay bid sniping and have a look..

Save you haveing to be there when the auction ends that way ;)

SMHarman 12-03-2004 11:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gary_580
amazing how many peopel say oh well it was only £10 more. I used to get cars from the auction, a friend came with me once and though i was mad not to bid anouther £100 and a car that was going for around £6500. I can see their point, another £100 to get it. But then theres the arguement that £100 can become £200 then £500 and before you know it youve been stupid.
So true - but it depends how much you have to have that item and how comoditised it is.

If that car is a Ford Mondeo and another will be auctione 5 mins later, then yes; same on e-bay, if you can see similar items closing within the next 7 days then overbidding is foolish. If it is unique, or rarely auctioned then thats a different matter.

The Concorde memorabilia auctions are an interesting example of this. Back in October things were going for silly prices. £20 for a luggage tag, these days you'll be lucky to get £6 for it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by altis
The clock on ebay is spot on. My solution was to buy a radio-controlled watch and only ever put in a bid when there's less than 5 seconds to go. With practice (and nerve) I can get it down to the last second. Also, this makes you seriously think about your maximum bid.
Sniping - there is software that can do this for you as well. When I'm bidding I'll often go in during the last 30 mins and up my maximum price by say £1.05 so any sniper coming in with a bid 20p higher will not grab the item.

gary_580 12-03-2004 12:47
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by altis
The clock on ebay is spot on. My solution was to buy a radio-controlled watch and only ever put in a bid when there's less than 5 seconds to go. With practice (and nerve) I can get it down to the last second. Also, this makes you seriously think about your maximum bid.

If it's a valuable item then do your research first. Read the listing very carefully and work out exactly what it does and doesn't say and what you are assuming. Has he/she previously bought the same or similar item? Make contact by asking a question. Does the reply give you complete confidence?
i do exactly the same

TheBlueRaja 13-03-2004 11:16
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by aliferste
I dont really understand that scam, all it seems to do is scare way ligit bidders leavig the lower bids :shrug:
Thats the whole point - the person who makes the fraudulent "low" bid to start off with ends up being the winner because all of his fraudulent or alternative userid's have retracted their higher bids at the last minute, leaving his good userid as the winner, at his original bargain basement price.

;)

Ramrod 14-03-2004 19:50
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off topic but there was a human auction on ebay :Yikes: link
Quote:
Internet site eBay halted an auction this week and suspended a Taiwanese user who allegedly tried to sell three Vietnamese girls for a starting bid of â‚ ¬5,100.

aliferste 14-03-2004 22:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theblueraja
Thats the whole point - the person who makes the fraudulent "low" bid to start off with ends up being the winner because all of his fraudulent or alternative userid's have retracted their higher bids at the last minute, leaving his good userid as the winner, at his original bargain basement price.

;)

JEEPERS, I totally see that now!

But its hard to make accounts as you have to use a good email addy, if you use hotmail or yahoo or similar you need to registar your credit card!

luftys 14-03-2004 22:35
Re: ebay bidding
 
But I sometimes push the price up just for fun :Yikes: :disturbd:

TheBlueRaja 15-03-2004 19:46
Re: ebay bidding
 
I HATE people like you :0

Why why why???????

(Not really) BUT WHY!!!!

:D

paulyoung666 15-03-2004 19:53
Re: ebay bidding
 
do ppl really save much money , every time i have looked it seems as though you might save £20 or so off a tv , is it worth it :confused:

Scrubbs 15-03-2004 20:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paulyoung666
do ppl really save much money , every time i have looked it seems as though you might save £20 or so off a tv , is it worth it :confused:
I have used ebay twice before, the last time I bought a base unit pc for about £250, when I priced it up to build myself I saved about £50

but... you have to know what you want and get lucky with the seller. Maybe I was lucky? :)

paulyoung666 15-03-2004 20:10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrubbs
I have used ebay twice before, the last time I bought a base unit pc for about £250, when I priced it up to build myself I saved about £50

but... you have to know what you want and get lucky with the seller. Maybe I was lucky? :)



maybe you were :)

TheBlueRaja 15-03-2004 21:11
Re: ebay bidding
 
I buy LOTS of CD's from Ebay - the most expensive thing i have bought was about 50 quid (a cpu) and i have NEVER had any problems with anyone.

But would i buy something like a Plasma TV from Ebay - Hell no, but for small items its great.

Ramrod 15-03-2004 21:20
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theblueraja
But would i buy something like a Plasma TV from Ebay - Hell no, but for small items its great.
Thats what I'm finding....

luftys 16-03-2004 14:30
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by theblueraja
I HATE people like you :0

Why why why???????

(Not really) BUT WHY!!!!

:D
because I sell the things I push the price up for :Yikes:

Buy low sell high :disturbd:

Paulie 16-03-2004 17:43
Re: ebay bidding
 
So what`s up for sale now? You never know it may be something I `m after :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by luftys
because I sell the things I push the price up for :Yikes:

Buy low sell high :disturbd:

TheBlueRaja 16-03-2004 18:01
Re: ebay bidding
 
Do you use the same username or a different userid?

TheBlueRaja 16-03-2004 18:26
Re: ebay bidding
 
Not really sure i wanna say to be honest - incidentally, my question was directed towards Luftys.

No offense, just a security conscious person.

Paulie 16-03-2004 19:03
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Oops sorry `bout that ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by theblueraja
Not really sure i wanna say to be honest - incidentally, my question was directed towards Luftys.

No offense, just a security conscious person.

TheBlueRaja 16-03-2004 19:17
Re: ebay bidding
 
No Probs, my bad. ;)

luftys 16-03-2004 19:18
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
So what`s up for sale now? You never know it may be something I `m after :)
Star Trek videos :disturbd:

NoBB 19-03-2004 10:59
Re: ebay bidding
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paulie
Interesting little scam. Most of the time, I will put in a bid early on then do nothing until the last minute. I`ve found that some ebay newbies (my wife included) keep bidding from the off, just to be the highest bidder.
I am a fairly regular user of Ebay. Ebay do automatic bidding up to your stated limit. I decide on the highest figure that I am prepared to pay for the item and stick in a bid £1 or £2 below my max.Ebay will bid on my behalf up to my limit. I receive a text message if I am outbid. If I have not received a text message by the closing time of the auction I then only check at the last minute, and if it only takes £1 or £2 to win. I will then up my bid - if it goes beyond that price -I forget it! Scams should not really make a difference, because you should NEVER pay more than the item is worth, or more than you can afford. Compare prices elsewhere and set your limit before you start and stick to it!
:scratch:

luftys 19-03-2004 14:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NoBB
I am a fairly regular user of Ebay. Ebay do automatic bidding up to your stated limit. I decide on the highest figure that I am prepared to pay for the item and stick in a bid £1 or £2 below my max.Ebay will bid on my behalf up to my limit. I receive a text message if I am outbid. If I have not received a text message by the closing time of the auction I then only check at the last minute, and if it only takes £1 or £2 to win. I will then up my bid - if it goes beyond that price -I forget it! Scams should not really make a difference, because you should NEVER pay more than the item is worth, or more than you can afford. Compare prices elsewhere and set your limit before you start and stick to it!
:scratch:
but dont forget to add PP to price
Yesterday on ebay someone wanted £3.50 for PP just for 1 video,no way


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