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erol 10-03-2004 21:14

Pricing change for NTL telephony - rumour
 
Someone has sent me a 'rumour' re NTL telephony pricing. The rumour came originaly from a ng and if I get any 'hard' info on this I will post that as well.

The rumor goes as follows

"From the 23rd March 2004, per minute billing will be introduced for
all calls. This will affect the way that your calls are charged and
appear on your bill. After this date, all calls will be rounded up to
the nearest minute."

"This comes on top of their 5p connection charge, and rounding up to next penny clause.
e.g. It means a daytime local call rises from a minimum cost of 6p to 8p and will add an average of 1.5p to each daytime local call....."

Again I would stress at this point as far as I know this is just 'hersay' but I thought I would post it anyway.

Wolf 10-03-2004 21:17

Re: Pricing change for NTL telephony - rumour
 
soon it will be cheaper just to use your mobile instead....probably is if you take monthly line rental from telephone provider

a4pacific 10-03-2004 22:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolf
soon it will be cheaper just to use your mobile instead....probably is if you take monthly line rental from telephone provider

Doesn't worry me, I always use GoTalk, cheaper and no "connection" charge. I would recommend GoTalk to anyone.

danielf 10-03-2004 23:06

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I can't say I'm too bothered. My last phone bill from my ntl line was 59p...

MovedGoalPosts 11-03-2004 00:18

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If there was to be a change in pricing systems, this is a significant change to service terms and thus requires customers to be advised in writing, with prior notice in accordance with ntl's own T&Cs. I have had no such notice yet, so no change of tarrif expected on the 23rd, unless that's when mailings on the new tarrif would start to be issued.

Of course if ntl want to stick another nail in their coffin to encourage ppl to move to BT & ADSL (where they have that option) that's up to them.

Frank 11-03-2004 02:18

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Should be interesting come 23rd March. We should have confirmation before that date if there is indeed going to be a Telco price rise.

Marge 11-03-2004 02:21

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Haven't heard anything at all about this :shrug:

zoombini 11-03-2004 08:25

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But its a rumour so it must be true, and we need to have a 300+ reply debate over it & we need it right now!

gary_580 11-03-2004 09:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
I can't say I'm too bothered. My last phone bill from my ntl line was 59p...

aaahhh no friends? :pp

grum1978 11-03-2004 10:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank
Should be interesting come 23rd March. We should have confirmation before that date if there is indeed going to be a Telco price rise.

its to do with moving onto the new system...it says the calls will be rounded to the nearest penny so thats rounded up or down :angel:

GazzaB 11-03-2004 10:43

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This is news to me, the only change I'm aware of where this rumour may apply is on NTL Freedom.

This was on the last staement I saw from them
"From the 23rd March 2004, per minute billing will be introduced for all calls. This will affect the way that your calls are charged and appear on your bill. After this date, all calls will be rounded up to the nearest minute."

NTL cable (on-net) telephone services are unaffected by this change.

Neil 11-03-2004 10:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GazzaB
"From the 23rd March 2004, per minute billing will be introduced for all calls. This will affect the way that your calls are charged and appear on your bill. After this date, all calls will be rounded up to the nearest minute."

NTL cable (on-net) telephone services are unaffected by this change.

So if you make a quick call, & are on the phone for 1 min & 1 sec, you get charged for two minutes?? :Yikes:

supered 11-03-2004 11:50

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GazzaB
This is news to me, the only change I'm aware of where this rumour may apply is on NTL Freedom.

This was on the last staement I saw from them
"From the 23rd March 2004, per minute billing will be introduced for all calls. This will affect the way that your calls are charged and appear on your bill. After this date, all calls will be rounded up to the nearest minute."

NTL cable (on-net) telephone services are unaffected by this change.

I thought per second billing would be available nowadays, maybe hi-tech ain't so hi.

Frank 11-03-2004 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
So if you make a quick call, & are on the phone for 1 min & 1 sec, you get charged for two minutes?? :Yikes:

Yup, looks that way :rolleyes:

Glad I'm leaving the country :D

SMHarman 11-03-2004 17:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
So if you make a quick call, & are on the phone for 1 min & 1 sec, you get charged for two minutes?? :Yikes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazzaB
<snip>
NTL cable (on-net) telephone services are unaffected by this change.


Neil 11-03-2004 17:40

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Not quite sure what you are trying to say SMHarman....

SMHarman 11-03-2004 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Not quite sure what you are trying to say SMHarman....

Superneds post seems to contain fact that looks similar to the rumour of the OP.

Superneds post says rounding will occur on Freedom calls. Calls on the cable network phones will remain unchanged.

IMHO it would be a very backward move to move to per minute billing when the rest of the market has gone the other way (though some might say thats NTL).

Shaun 11-03-2004 18:10

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Time Freedom customers looked elsewhere for their third party carrier calls, I personally wouldn't put up with this new per min billing and the fact that you generally get through to India when you call Freedom customer services. :rolleyes:

There are many other carriers available, a good site for info is http://www.uswitch.com/

Maggy 11-03-2004 19:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zoombini
But its a rumour so it must be true, and we need to have a 300+ reply debate over it & we need it right now!

You are wicked but I like you. :D

Incog

hansi 11-03-2004 19:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
I can't say I'm too bothered. My last phone bill from my ntl line was 59p...

mine was only 13p using Telecom+ now

zoombini 16-03-2004 12:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Incognitas
You are wicked but I like you. :D

Incog

Oooh, do I get a "wicked" award? lol

Maggy 16-03-2004 14:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zoombini
Oooh, do I get a "wicked" award? lol


No I haven't got one of them. Anyway it's a Dick Emory catchphrase.

Incog. :)

poolking 16-03-2004 15:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
I can't say I'm too bothered. My last phone bill from my ntl line was 59p...

Mines £1.21 on average, don't see why they don't just bill me yearly. It would save them money on printing out the bill and posting it each month. :D

MovedGoalPosts 16-03-2004 23:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poolking
Mines £1.21 on average, don't see why they don't just bill me yearly. It would save them money on printing out the bill and posting it each month. :D

There's a lot of "Billy no mates" use this forum - or else we're all geeks using other means of keeping in touch with our friends :D

* edit: I'm as sad as the rest of you lot - only £1.64 last month and as for the mobile phone, didn't get anywhere near the 45 minutes includive allowed on my tarrif :sleep:

Maggy 17-03-2004 20:03

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My last phone bill was 74 pence.:)

Rillington 18-03-2004 00:15

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This would mean that ntl would become 8p per call mor eexpensive than BT rather than 5p.

It becomes more of a rip-off every day (esp when you add in the £1 charge for a telephone bill and a £1 charge for 1571).

bob_builder 18-03-2004 07:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington
This would mean that ntl would become 8p per call mor eexpensive than BT rather than 5p.

It becomes more of a rip-off every day (esp when you add in the £1 charge for a telephone bill and a £1 charge for 1571).

These changes only affect NTL Freedom (off-net) customers and not NTL Cable (on-net) customers.
If you had NTL Freedom, 1571 would be provided free by BT.

scrotnig 18-03-2004 12:07

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I think I can shed some light on this as it's an issue I have been trying to resolve.

The message about per-minute billing is currently being displayed on all Freedom bills. It only applies to Freedom customers, NOT customers who use an ntl telephone line.

Where the confusion has come about, is that customers with ntl lines who view their DIALUP bill on the web, will also see this message. Also stand alone cable modem customers who request a VAT invoice will see it too. It shouldn't have happened that way, but it did.

It does only apply to Freedom accounts, and I have not heard any plans to apply this to customers who have a full ntl telephone line, such customers need not be concerned.

erol 18-03-2004 12:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark B
I think I can shed some light on this as it's an issue I have been trying to resolve.

The message about per-minute billing is currently being displayed on all Freedom bills. It only applies to Freedom customers, NOT customers who use an ntl telephone line.

Where the confusion has come about, is that customers with ntl lines who view their DIALUP bill on the web, will also see this message. Also stand alone cable modem customers who request a VAT invoice will see it too. It shouldn't have happened that way, but it did.

It does only apply to Freedom accounts, and I have not heard any plans to apply this to customers who have a full ntl telephone line, such customers need not be concerned.

Thanks for that clarification Mark. As I said in my original post this 'info' came to me as a rumour. It would seem that the displaying on the message on webbills for onnet customers is what has caused the confusion / concern.


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