BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3521539.stm

What a joke.. 1gig a month translates to about 35meg a day.. you could hit that cap with a dialup in 2 hours.. :rofl: :rofl:

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

I don't think that's a joke - some people simply don't download a lot. I know my parents use their BB connection only to check email, and perhaps visit a couple of websites every day - they would get nowhere near 1Gb a month, but they would save £5 per month over the same speed service from ntl.

Even more interesting in that story is Telewest's new 256KBps service at £17.99p m. Why is it that Telewest, who have the same infrastructure as ntl, can offer a faster service at the same price? Although they are not in competition, I will be dissapointed if ntl don't match this offer soon - Telewest's 2Meg service, their lack of a cap and now this new service are really beginning to show what a cable network with proper investment can achieve, and it's putting ntl to shame.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

There's a fair degree of crossover between this thread and the Telewest 256k announcement thread, seeing as both seem to have been announced today and BBC news is treating them as the same story. P'raps we should get the threads merged?

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

http://forum.nthellworld.co.uk/showt...newpost&t=8649 :)

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

For the 1st time i am tempted to rejoin bt. I am on ntls 128 k for 17.99 a month and for £2 extra i could get 4 times faster speed i don t tend to download a lot just surfing and emails and the odd download i must admit i hope ntl responds to this move by bt
http://www.bt.com/broadband/bb_basic.htm

just a quick question how many downloads aprox a day do u get with this service ?

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

duplicate thread

http://forum.nthellworld.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8643

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

I wouldnt bother and just get the 24.99 package £5 isn't worth such a restriction.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

It is well worth the restriction to someone on a tight budget. It seems a lot of people in the forum just can't grasp the concept that not everyone who has broadband spends all their time downloading files. A large number of users (the majority I would say) just surf a few sites and use e-mail. This is ideal for them. :)

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

If you are a light users and the BT BB basic package looks of intertest to you then you should really consider this

http://www.metronet.co.uk/adsl/paygo

512kbs down 256kbs up
upto 200MB per month £10pm
from 201 - 5796 MB £0.0025 per MB
over 5795 MB - no charge!

For light users this is by far and away the best package available in the UK atm that I know of.

In comparision to BT BB Basic
Does not have a premium rate helpline number - BB basic does.
Can use your own DSL modem - BT BB basic requires you to buy their USB DSL modem.
For 1GB usage per month BT BB works out at £20. If you use it less its still £20. Metronet by comparision costs £12pm. Use it less and it costs less.
Go over the 1gig pm limit on BT BB Basic and there is an (unspecified) charge. Use as much as you like with Metronet. Usage over 5796MB is not charged!

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

This is certainly true for me. I got Broadband for faster browsing and a reliable connection, plus fast downloads on the odd occasion I need it (most often just my Mac OS software updates).

I have never been a high bandwidth user and would happily contemplate moving to a service whose cap is offered as a selling point rather than buried in the AUP. This is IMHO a far more honest way of capping a service rather than implying it's unlimited and then slapping on the restrictions.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

While that is a valid point, I wonder how much difference 600k and 150 make in terms of browsing (I don't know as I went from dialup to 600k). Seeing that 150 'unlimited' (limited to 30Gigs a month) is cheaper, I wonder if this really is much of an improvement for 'light users'.

Also consider the £80 connection charges. For the first year, this service is more expensive than less limited services of the same speed.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

So what do you think of the metronet service?

Does £10pm 512/256kbs BB not appeal ?

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

That is because Telewest has done a lot of updating of their service and listen to what customers wanted.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

It certainly does ... I suspect customer inertia is NTL's friend in this market, but as we're upping and moving later this year we are going to be looking hard at the alternatives. Metronet is now going to be high on the list - thanks for the tip! :tu:

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

1 gig would be used by web browsing, unless you are an extremely light user then I would then say broadband is not for you.

BT have 1 intention with this package, that is to lure people from dialup to broadband with it and then make them move to the proper package when they exceed the traffic limit.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

If you are on a tight budget It would be better to use a crap service like Gio......it costs less, and can potentially be faster!!

Or Fast4??

BT having a laugh again at their customers expense....jesus and people think ntl are bad!!

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

yes but would the limit be 200 downloads a month ..... sometimes i only download 1 a month so this would be ideal for me

I wonder if ntl will match bt ? I am very very very tempted to switch to bt

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

I spotted an additional benefit for BT in some of the national papers this morning - they are taking out big half-page ads and can of course headline their prices as 'from £19.99' which looks very tempting. You only discover the bandwidth cap in the small print at the bottom of the ad, by which time they have already attracted your attention and put 'BT' in your head.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

If you download less than 1gb a month then your better off with dial up payg it would probably work out cheaper

This is worst ever internet package i've seen, beats aol..

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

there no limits on download a month just the volume of downloads, but just remember everything counts as traffic, i get approx 2megabytes a day of junk email so thats 60 meg a month gone already (6%).

My lowest usage in february was 34.5 megabytes in and 2.7 megabytes out, this is I assume one of those days I was just browsing a few webpages, this takes you over the gig mark, the limit is abolutely insane, a driver download would make you seriously have to watch what you use and do stuff like turn off images in pages, I cannot imagine anyone would seriously want this package especially when you can get more for less, like I said before if you not going to be using up the limit of this package then you obvously not online enough to warrant broadband.

The uk is trying to redesign what broadband is for, broadband is about content, the amount of data that can flow through it. Its not about freeing up your phoneline, thats just a bonus.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

I really can't agree that dial-up internet is better for anything, unless cost of service is absolutely critical. We are not heavy users. The vast majority of our online activity is browsing webpages. But the speed and reliability with which we can do that now we're on BB easily justifies the extra cost IMO. Even if I never wanted to download an app, a patch or a high-quality video stream ever again, I would still have BB just for fast page browsing.

There does seem to be an assumption among some (and this is not aimed at anyone in particular) that BB is all about high bandwidth useage. I don't believe that is the case at all, and I would not be surprised if the majority of broadband users said they only use their service for reliable web browsing, not heavy downloading.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

Though I don't consider myself a heavy user, I would easily go over this limit, as I like to listen to streaming audio. I don't download many apps, and am a very occasional user of p2p. Even with a low quality stream, you would hit the cap in no time. At 150k unlimited, you would have no problems at all. My feeling is that, if you a person is a light user that he won't hit the cap, there are other, better alternatives out there.

Alternatively, people who try this out, may very soon find they need to upgrade (which, as others have remarked, may be the real reason for offering this service)

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

danielf yeah, a unlimited 150kbit service is a much better option for browsing webpages then a highly restricted 512kbit service, you would still be getting about 300% better performance.

Towny and yes you are right that a large amount of uk internet users just browse web pages, however I feel this isnt the trend worldwide at the same scale, when broadband was invented I am sure the idea wasn't for faster web browsing, the idea would have been much beyond that.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

see my sig,

NO CACHE,NO CAP

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

but still no where near as attractive as metronet's offer which gives you fast 512Kbs access for only £10pm for low usage. You can also use it heavily if you want safe in the knowledge that your total monthly cost is capped.

So you get faster speeds.
Lower cost for low usage
Option to for heavy usage, with capped total monthly cost.

This too me seems like the best option for low usage users, medium usage users and even 'periodic' heavy usage users.

Given the choice of metronet's package or a 150kbs service that costs more, who would choose the 150kbs service?

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

well my guess is normal web browsing (enough that annoys you having phone line tied up) you looking at approx 5 gig a month, which makes metronet almost normal price, the amount of traffic used for 10 pounds a month cost would probably be used in a dozen hours on payg dialup.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

I do like this metronet scheme though. Between 200 meg and 5 gig, you only pay for the bandwith you use (which means that you only pay 10 quid (plus vat) if you're away for a month). Once you hit 5 Gig, you're on a flat rate (without a cap), and the price is quite similar to what NTL charge. So, it's very flexible, and cost-aware customers can decide to do all their big downloads, p2p in one month, and cut on the price in the other months... In the months you use a lot of bandwidth, you pay NTL prices, if you use less then 5 Gig, you pay less...

And, I noticed, the minimum contract is for three months only...

I don't know how good they are, but I like their business model :)

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

A little bit of competition is always good in the BB market, hope BT do well at least they said itr was capped prior to introducing it something NTL might learn from.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

yeah its a good idea in theory, one side of me is thinking 5 gig is still actually low usage so they not giving much away, but the other is thinking well they cap the maximum price so the end user loses nothing in the end.

Re: BT no frills £19.99 with.. 1gig a MONTH cap!!!
 

I would say I download roughly 1 gig per month (prob slightly less) but I don't download anything apart from the occasional TV nostaglia clip from tv-ark. 99% of my internet use is forum participation, looking at news and pictures with virtually no downloading. If I ever did do any downloading (and I could if I ever got bb - which is very unlikely) then I would go with an ISP, such as my own - AOL - which does not have any form of download cap.