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Xaccers 27-02-2004 20:57

Chemistry question :)
 
Didn't know where to put this so feel free to move it :)

Here's something to frazzle your brains

You are provided with a solution containing 50ppm chloride ions. How many mls of this should be taken and diluted to produce 100ml of a 2.5ppm solution?

Paul 27-02-2004 21:08

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
5 ml ?

Marge 27-02-2004 21:08

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:rolleyes: The only mark I got in my chemistry exam was for spelling my name correctly so don't be looking to me :erm:

markmarkymark 27-02-2004 21:12

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ummmm (swigs a beer)


TAKE 100 ml of the solution, dilute in half, then throw half away ??

Marge 27-02-2004 21:24

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20mls :rofl: wtf do I know???

timewarrior2001 27-02-2004 21:38

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
Didn't know where to put this so feel free to move it :)

Here's something to frazzle your brains

You are provided with a solution containing 50ppm chloride ions. How many mls of this should be taken and diluted to produce 100ml of a 2.5ppm solution?

I'd say 20 ml

Xaccers 27-02-2004 21:41

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pem
5 ml ?


How did you come to that conclusion?

Ramrod 27-02-2004 21:43

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
You didn't tell us what volume of the original solution we had :D

danielf 27-02-2004 21:46

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Gut feeling is with pem, 5 mils, but something tells me it might be 5.263 or 4.762, but I haven't quite figured it out yet (ie, I may well be wrong).

To Ramrod, I think that may drop out of the equation...

Xaccers 27-02-2004 21:47

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
I'd say 20 ml


How did you come to that conclusion?

Xaccers 27-02-2004 21:48

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
You didn't tell us what volume of the original solution we had :D


Doesn't matter, taking 10ml for instance, out of 100ltrs of 50ppm solution will still contain the same number of ions as taking 10ml out fo 100000ltrs of a 50ppm solution :)

danielf 27-02-2004 21:50

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
We are assuming that both the original solution and the dilutant have an equal number of molecules per mil aren't we?

Ramrod 27-02-2004 21:55

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
Doesn't matter, taking 10ml for instance, out of 100ltrs of 50ppm solution will still contain the same number of ions as taking 10ml out fo 100000ltrs of a 50ppm solution :)

:blush: :D

danielf 27-02-2004 21:56

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Right, I will try an explanation for the 5 mil answer then. Assuming 1 million parts per mililiter, you need add add 19 mils of solution (going by my above assumption) to get to 2.5 ppm. This makes 20, so multiply both by 5 to get to 100 total. So, 5 mils of the original

downquark1 27-02-2004 22:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
Right, I will try an explanation for the 5 mil answer then. Assuming 1 million parts per mililiter, you need add add 19 mils of solution (going by my above assumption) to get to 2.5 ppm. This makes 20, so multiply both by 5 to get to 100 total. So, 5 mils of the original

I concur

Maggy 27-02-2004 22:11

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Incog gets out deckchair and drink,gets comfy and waits for Theodoric to arrive. slurp,slurp.

homealone 27-02-2004 22:15

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
Didn't know where to put this so feel free to move it :)

Here's something to frazzle your brains

You are provided with a solution containing 50ppm chloride ions. How many mls of this should be taken and diluted to produce 100ml of a 2.5ppm solution?

ok ppm is mg/kg

you want 100mls or 0.1kg of solution with 2.5 mg/kg concentration - i.e. 0.25mg of chloride ion.

50ppm is 50mg of chloride ion per litre so you would take 0.005 ml of the original solution? (ignoring density effects;) )

danielf 27-02-2004 22:16

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I'm waiting for Dr. Exacters to reply to my last post. What manners are that? Somebody gives an answer, the reply is: 'how did you arrive at that'?, and then he bloody disappears?

I want my grade. NOW!!!!! :afire: (and feedback on how to improve my answer if/when it's wrong) :)

Theodoric 27-02-2004 22:18

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
Didn't know where to put this so feel free to move it :)

Here's something to frazzle your brains

You are provided with a solution containing 50ppm chloride ions. How many mls of this should be taken and diluted to produce 100ml of a 2.5ppm solution?

It needs to be diluted by a factor of of 50/2.5 = 20. 1/20 of 100 is 5. So, take 5 ml of the 50 ppm solution and dilute to 100 ml.

Theodoric 27-02-2004 22:23

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Incog gets out deckchair and drink,gets comfy and waits for Theodoric to arrive. slurp,slurp.

I've just noticed this. I'm obviously getting a reputation for something or other. :)

PS It's not specifically a chemistry question, more a maths question on proportions, the sort of thing that was taught in school when I was a young lad (mutter, mumble, things were different in my young days . . .).

Xaccers 27-02-2004 22:26

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
Gut feeling is with pem, 5 mils, but something tells me it might be 5.263 or 4.762, but I haven't quite figured it out yet (ie, I may well be wrong).

To Ramrod, I think that may drop out of the equation...

5ml is correct

Marge 27-02-2004 22:29

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Am I going to get a "see me" written in red :erm:

homealone 27-02-2004 22:32

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theodoric
It needs to be diluted by a factor of of 50/2.5 = 20. 1/20 of 100 is 5. So, take 5 ml of the 50 ppm solution and dilute to 100 ml.

5ml of 50ppm solution = 5/1000 x 50 mg = 0.25mg

you are correct - my .005 was in kg/litres, not ml :dunce:

- can I have marks for my 'workings out' :D

danielf 27-02-2004 22:34

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
5ml is correct

Full marks to PEM then, as he got it first...

Ramrod 27-02-2004 22:42

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
Am I going to get a "see me" written in red :erm:

I'm probably getting extra homework :D

Maggy 27-02-2004 22:45

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
I'm probably getting extra homework :D

That'll cut down your postings.;)

Marge 27-02-2004 23:16

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:dunce: Ramrod :dunce: Me

sat at the back of the class :wavey:

homealone 27-02-2004 23:27

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Originally Posted by Debsy42
:dunce: Ramrod :dunce: Me

sat at the back of the class :wavey:

tries to be good at sport, so the 'nerd' sticker, falls off - and I got it wrong:)

Ramrod 27-02-2004 23:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
:dunce: Ramrod :dunce: Me

sat at the back of the class :wavey:

It's really annoying because I actually got A level chemistry....but when you don't use it for 16 years.... :rolleyes: :shrug:
...but thanks for the moral support :ghugs:

Nikko 27-02-2004 23:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Debsy42
Am I going to get a "see me" written in red :erm:


See Me later, girl.............

Paul 28-02-2004 00:11

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Sorry - I had a load of stuff to do tonight - I just had a minute spare to answer the question so i did - I was 99% certain of the answer. :D

Ramrod 28-02-2004 00:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pem
Sorry - I had a load of stuff to do tonight - I just had a minute spare to answer the question so i did - I was 99% certain of the answer. :D

Complete git :D

Marge 28-02-2004 00:19

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Complete git :D

and a show off :rofl:

and xaccers too :)

Paul 28-02-2004 00:23

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Complete git :D

:eek: :( :cry:

It was a maths question - I am naturally very good at maths. :PP:

Xaccers 28-02-2004 00:26

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Originally Posted by Debsy42
and a show off :rofl:

and xaccers too :)

I've not shown off to you yet :naughty:

Marge 28-02-2004 00:29

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
I've not shown off to you yet :naughty:

you know I'm waiting :naughty:

Marge 28-02-2004 01:45

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikko
See Me later, girl.............

Yes Mr Nikko :D

lol thanks for the rep and comment, me ------> :rofl:

Graham 28-02-2004 03:00

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Xaccers
You are provided with a solution containing 50ppm chloride ions. How many mls of this should be taken and diluted to produce 100ml of a 2.5ppm solution?

Do your own homework, don't expect us to do it for you!!

:D

Xaccers 28-02-2004 03:07

Re: Chemistry question :)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Graham
Do your own homework, don't expect us to do it for you!!

:D


It wasn't my homework.
She's sexy and I just had to help, but I worked it out just after I posted the question (and just after I killed one of the servers at work installing SP4) :D

sir_drinks_alot 28-02-2004 03:20

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i had a Chemistry kit at age 15 :naughty: it was some what **** as you where very limited as to the stuff you could do with it

yes am high right now:smokin: :smokin:


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