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downquark1 25-02-2004 21:36

Nostradamus and other fortune tellers
 
As a spin off of the bible code thread, let's discuss Nostradamus' predictions:

Is George Bush the third anti-christ "Mabus"?

How accurate was his 9 11 prediction?

Ramrod 25-02-2004 21:39

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But isn't the whole Nostradamus predictions thing a load of codswallop? :confused:

danielf 25-02-2004 21:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by downquark1
As a spin off of the bible code thread, let's discuss Nostradamus' predictions:

Is George Bush the third anti-christ "Mabus"?

How accurate was his 9 11 prediction?

Link?

downquark1 25-02-2004 21:41

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Originally Posted by danielf
Link?

Just google nostradamus - What I know I read in a book.

links are here:
http://www.crystalinks.com/quatrains...retations.html
http://urbanlegends.about.com/cs/his...ostradamus.htm
http://people.howstuffworks.com/nostradamus.htm

danielf 25-02-2004 21:41

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
But isn't the whole Nostradamus predictions thing a load of codswallop? :confused:

Well, DQ did say it is a spinoff from the Bible Codes thread ;)

smegs 25-02-2004 21:43

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
But isn't the whole Nostradamus predictions thing a load of codswallop? :confused:

wasn't he the one who said in the year 2000 the world would end and we are still here

Xaccers 25-02-2004 21:50

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His alleged prediction of 9/11 was a hoax, written in his style and then sent around via email :D

downquark1 25-02-2004 21:54

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
His alleged prediction of 9/11 was a hoax, written in his style and then sent around via email :D

I think one of them were, but some of the more vague ones are supposedly real
Quote:

At five and forty degrees, the sky will burn,
Fire approaches the great new city,
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up,
When they want to have verification from the Normans.

zendawn 25-02-2004 21:55

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
His alleged prediction of 9/11 was a hoax, written in his style and then sent around via email :D


The 'two towers' nostro prediction was written way before 911, and is spooky in its similarity to those events.

BTW: IF you do a google groups 'two towers' search, there is a message in one group 2 days before 911, that meantions 'two towers bring destroyed', I wonder if it was a code message for the events?

Also The two towers could have been the two buddha statues the taliban distroyed in afghanistan.

Xaccers 25-02-2004 21:58

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If memory serves you have to add something like 280 to his years as well.

Xaccers 25-02-2004 22:00

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Originally Posted by zendawn
The 'two towers' nostro prediction was written way before 911, and is spooky in its similarity to those events.

BTW: IF you do a google groups 'two towers' search, there is a message in one group 2 days before 911, that meantions 'two towers bring destroyed', I wonder if it was a code message for the events?

Also The two towers could have been the two buddha statues the taliban distroyed in afghanistan.


http://www.christiananswers.net/q-co...stradamus.html


BTW, cool avatar :)

zendawn 25-02-2004 22:11

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Originally Posted by Xaccers


Sorry I'm not sure if you offer that as evidence that it was written before OR after 911?
I have a book of his predictions written in the 70's that includes the 'two towers' paragraph, so I know for sure it was writen before 911.

Cheers about the avatar tho, love the yin yang symbol but they are missing the white and black dot in the oposite colour.

Xaccers 25-02-2004 22:17

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Sorry I'm not sure if you offer that as evidence that it was written before OR after 911?
I have a book of his predictions written in the 70's that includes the 'two towers' paragraph, so I know for sure it was writen before 911.

Cheers about the avatar tho, love the yin yang symbol but they are missing the white and black dot in the oposite colour.

Ah, it's just an example of the mis-quoting of his predictions to make it fit 911, after 911

Ramrod 25-02-2004 22:19

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
BTW, cool avatar :)

I know. I wanted that one ages ago but couldn't figure out how to use it :cry: :dunce: :D
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Originally Posted by Zendawn
Cheers about the avatar tho, love the yin yang symbol but they are missing the white and black dot in the oposite colour.

I've got those :rolleyes: :D
...jealous? Moi? :no:...erm :Yes: :D

Maggy 25-02-2004 22:23

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At five and forty degrees, the sky will burn,
Fire approaches the great new city,
Immediately a huge, scattered flame leaps up,
When they want to have verification from the Normans

Normans?aren't we about 9 centuries out there?As predictions go that's pretty cr@p.

Ramrod 25-02-2004 22:24

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Ah, it's just an example of the mis-quoting of his predictions to make it fit 911, after 911

I like the way your mind works :D
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Originally Posted by Incognitas
Normans?aren't we about 9 centuries out there?As predictions go that's pretty cr@p.

Nah. If memory serves they've got an explanation for that one as well :rolleyes: :D

iadom 25-02-2004 22:31

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I think post #2 in the aforementioned thread is just as apt here.:)

zendawn 25-02-2004 22:39

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Ah, it's just an example of the mis-quoting of his predictions to make it fit 911, after 911


Yes those are misquoted, the 'originals' are a bit weaker in comparison. I'm not sure on their validity either way tho, just thought the coincidence was spooky. :eek:

Its like that bloke who painted the two towers, Ok so he might have painted it before 911, but it didnt help stop it from happening, as it didnt show when it was going to happen.

Xaccers 25-02-2004 22:42

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Yes those are misquoted, the 'originals' are a bit weaker in comparison. I'm not sure on their validity either way tho, just thought the coincidence was spooky. :eek:

Its like that bloke who painted the two towers, Ok so he might have painted it before 911, but it didnt help stop it from happening, as it didnt show when it was going to happen.

Do you mean the guy who has his pic and painting taken in front of his bank's clock to time/date stamp it?

What he can do is spooky, some is flaky, but some are pretty close!

zendawn 25-02-2004 22:42

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
I know. I wanted that one ages ago but couldn't figure out how to use it :cry: :dunce: :D I've got those :rolleyes: :D
...jealous? Moi? :no:...erm :Yes: :D

Yes at least you have the two dots, very important as they sybolise(sp?) the niether yin nor yang are pure and exist only as part of each other.

I could use a paint program to put the dots in, but I'm not very good at doing that sort of thing.

iadom 25-02-2004 22:43

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Speaking of the two towers, what was it that you typed into MS Word to get the plane flying into the towers, I think it included a Star of David as well.

IIRC it was supposed to be something to do with flight numbers but was just another hoax.

zendawn 25-02-2004 22:47

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Do you mean the guy who has his pic and painting taken in front of his bank's clock to time/date stamp it?

What he can do is spooky, some is flaky, but some are pretty close!


Yes thats the one, 'The man who could paint the future' channel 5.
The 911, concord and Dunblane paintings are very spooky.

zendawn 25-02-2004 23:04

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Originally Posted by iadom
Speaking of the two towers, what was it that you typed into MS Word to get the plane flying into the towers, I think it included a Star of David as well.

IIRC it was supposed to be something to do with flight numbers but was just another hoax.

Not sure who your post is for, but I doubt it was MS Word anyone used, unless is has a search the internet feature? I just tried a search for the two towers google group post but could not find it. It was writen by a bit of an Islamic troll, who wrote a few pro islamic items during that time.

Ramrod 25-02-2004 23:09

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Yes at least you have the two dots, very important as they sybolise(sp?) the niether yin nor yang are pure and exist only as part of each other.

But you still have the coolest avatar :nworthy: :D

Maggy 25-02-2004 23:11

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
But you still have the coolest avatar :nworthy: :D

sulks!!

iadom 25-02-2004 23:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by zendawn
Not sure who your post is for, but I doubt it was MS Word anyone used, unless is has a search the internet feature? I just tried a search for the two towers google group post but could not find it. It was writen by a bit of an Islamic troll, who wrote a few pro islamic items during that time.

No, there was a combination of letters and numbers and possibly a few function keys that you entered in Word. The numbers where supposed to relate to the flight times or numbers, it produced an output in a Word doc that was, IIRC a Star of David and what looked like a plane and two towers. The flight numbers did not in fact match any genuine ones, someone had found the symbols in Word and worked out a way of displaying them. I guess Snopes is the best place for me to look.

danielf 25-02-2004 23:16

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Yes thats the one, 'The man who could paint the future' channel 5.
The 911, concord and Dunblane paintings are very spooky.

Do you have a link for that? (I'd be interested to have a look)

Ramrod 25-02-2004 23:24

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Originally Posted by Incognitas
sulks!!

Sorry incog, you flashing at me doesn't 'float my boat' :D

Marge 25-02-2004 23:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by iadom
No, there was a combination of letters and numbers and possibly a few function keys that you entered in Word. The numbers where supposed to relate to the flight times or numbers, it produced an output in a Word doc that was, IIRC a Star of David and what looked like a plane and two towers. The flight numbers did not in fact match any genuine ones, someone had found the symbols in Word and worked out a way of displaying them. I guess Snopes is the best place for me to look.

I think this was if you used the font Wingdings or whatever it's called :shrug:

zendawn 25-02-2004 23:31

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Originally Posted by iadom
No, there was a combination of letters and numbers and possibly a few function keys that you entered in Word. I guess Snopes is the best place for me to look.

Oh haven't heard about that one. Strange the things people come up with :)

Xaccers 25-02-2004 23:32

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Originally Posted by Debsy42
I think this was if you used the font Wingdings or whatever it's called :shrug:

I remember, there was something with windings!


http://www.fun-with-words.com/nyc_fonts.html

Sociable 25-02-2004 23:36

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Cheers about the avatar tho, love the yin yang symbol but they are missing the white and black dot in the oposite colour.

Here ya go can't have ya missing the dots. :)

zendawn 25-02-2004 23:39

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
I remember, there was something with windings!


http://www.fun-with-words.com/nyc_fonts.html


OMG thats so spooky. Coincidence or not?? (twilight zone music)

zendawn 25-02-2004 23:40

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Originally Posted by Sociable
Here ya go can't have ya missing the dots. :)

Great one Sociable, much appreciate. :notworthy: you read my mind. :)

danielf 25-02-2004 23:41

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
I remember, there was something with windings!


http://www.fun-with-words.com/nyc_fonts.html

Which brings us back nicely to the fact that people will see connections and conspiracies everywhere, and are happy to interpret after the event.

It reminded me of this old nugget:

http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/marlboro.asp

Sociable 25-02-2004 23:42

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Originally Posted by zendawn
Great one Sociable, much appreciate. :notworthy: you read my mind. :)

No probs 10 mins in animation shop adding to your original. :)

Xaccers 25-02-2004 23:47

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Originally Posted by Sociable
Here ya go can't have ya missing the dots. :)

Got that on my phone now so I can hypnotise myself next time I'm in a dull meeting :D


Dan, didn't know that one about Malboro (knew about the malboro man tho, poor guy)

zendawn 25-02-2004 23:47

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Originally Posted by danielf
Which brings us back nicely to the fact that people will see connections and conspiracies everywhere, and are happy to interpret after the event.

It reminded me of this old nugget:

http://www.snopes.com/business/alliance/marlboro.asp


They had a similar item on the Richard and Judy show, about how people see coincidence in certain things. Like the old urban myth about the bloke out for a walk, and gets a wrong no on a public phone, thats his friend phoning him.

Is it just us wanting to find meaning in a meaningless life?

Marge 25-02-2004 23:47

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
I remember, there was something with windings!


http://www.fun-with-words.com/nyc_fonts.html

Great minds think alike Xaccers ;)

Dupre 25-02-2004 23:51

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what people (who i consider to be simple minded idiots) dont realise is, that what is commonly refered to as Nostradamus's predictions, he didnt predict precisely, anything that people claim he did, the year that hitler arrived was NOT right, and think about it.

Sit down, and write yourself 400,000 vaigue predictions for the future, how many do you think will come true?

For the same reason fortune tellers get things right, they tell you VAIGUE things, so clearly you will associate them with something "real" imagine 400k of them!

iadom 25-02-2004 23:51

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Found it ( good old google) if you type Q33NY in wingdings then enlarge it, you get what I was alluding to. It was rumoured that Q33NY was one of the fatal flight numbers, but that was a load of pancakes:D

zendawn 25-02-2004 23:53

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Originally Posted by danielf
Do you have a link for that? (I'd be interested to have a look)

Sorry I can't find a link anywhere about the program, it would be nice for you to see the painting if you haven't already as they are very similar to the events they predict. It was repeated on five only a few months back, so not sure when its gonna be show again. Might try digi guide just incase :)

zendawn 25-02-2004 23:59

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Originally Posted by iadom
Found it ( good old google) if you type Q33NY in wingdings then enlarge it, you get what I was alluding to. It was rumoured that Q33NY was one of the fatal flight numbers, but that was a load of pancakes:D

Q33NY that gives a plane, a4sheet, a4sheet, skull & crossbones, start of david. in wingdings

danielf 26-02-2004 00:06

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Originally Posted by zendawn
They had a similar item on the Richard and Judy show, about how people see coincidence in certain things. Like the old urban myth about the bloke out for a walk, and gets a wrong no on a public phone, thats his friend phoning him.

Is it just us wanting to find meaning in a meaningless life?

I think the issue is that people see meaning or purpose rather than coincidence in things that are pure coincidence.

When people see this, they go out hunting for 'proof' for the theory. Try Googling for "paul is dead"...

Slightly on topic, the predictions made by Nostradamus are notoriously vague, and people get excited by the instances where they can read an actual event into it. The 'misses' are typically disregarded, when you ought to take both hits and misses into account when judging whether these predictions hold water. But then, the vagueness really doesn't help...

I can recall a couple of instances where someone's predicted the end of the world in the past 25 years. We're still here, so I tend to take these things with more than a pinch of slt.

Xaccers 26-02-2004 00:09

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Originally Posted by danielf
I can recall a couple of instances where someone's predicted the end of the world in the past 25 years. We're still here, so I tend to take these things with more than a pinch of slt.

As the start of 12 monkeys says, it only take one of those people to be correct :D

iadom 26-02-2004 00:09

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Q33NY that gives a plane, a4sheet, a4sheet, skull & crossbones, start of david. in wingdings

looks like this, a bit of imagination is required to picture the A4 sheets as two towers.:)

danielf 26-02-2004 00:15

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Originally Posted by iadom
looks like this, a bit of imagination is required to picture the A4 sheets as two towers.:)

Indeed, It could just as well be construed as a lengthy death threat by a zionist organisation which was sent by air mail

Marge 26-02-2004 00:17

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Bill Gates it's all his fault apparantly ;)

zendawn 26-02-2004 00:24

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Originally Posted by iadom
looks like this, a bit of imagination is required to picture the A4 sheets as two towers.:)

oh the a4 sheets are the 2 towers, :) now I see.

Well if that had been the one of the flight numbers, I would be starting a new wingdings religon, or at least publish a Nostro type book based on them.
Get rich quick stylie. :)

zendawn 26-02-2004 00:30

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As an aside:

I was wondering IF you could go back in time to 911, how would you try to convince people it was goiing to happen?

At best you would come across as a nutter, at worse you would be seen as either a hoaxer or a terrorist?

Edit: I watch too much '7 days' LOL
BTW who thinks that '7 days' with its pilot episode of the white house being attacked by a plane loaded with explosives, was just as spooky as the Nostro predictions??

Chris 26-02-2004 06:49

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Originally Posted by Xaccers

Christian Answers, Xac? Surely not getting religious in your old age? :D

Atomic22 26-02-2004 18:42

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personally i think the whole nostradamus storys are total bunkum......
anyone can see what they want to see in anything they read.....
this is why terrorists see their deeds as pleasing their god , and the rest of the world see the deeds of terrorists as pure evil
my own opinion


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