I-Web Solutions - NTHW Special Offer Packages
 

Hi guys,

OK..... it has been sometime since our site and services have had a shakeup, and now that we have our network stabilised its time to push forward......

Were looking to change the NTHW Packages, to suit you guys more. Post here stating the package you would like...

I.E

50Mb Space, 2Gb BW, 10 E-mail accounts, 2 FTP accounts, 2 Mailing Lists, 2 MySQL Databases, 1 Sub Domain....... £3 a month



Post the package you would like to see and the price youd like to pay, we will see how far we can get it integrated into the NTHW Packages....

This is not a place to ask for custom hosting, but merely so we can see what packages you guys are actually interested in.

Current NTHW customers will have the option of upgrading their account to one of the new packages or staying with the package they already have.

Also would you be interested in windows hosting at all?? This is something we are investigating at the moment.

The options you have to create a package are as follows

Space:
Bandwidth:
Frontpage Extensions : (yes or no)
Shell Access : (yes or no)
FTP Accounts :
Pop3 Accounts :
SQL DBs :
Sub Domains :
Parked Domains :
Addon Domains :
Own IP : (yes or no)

Monthly Price : £
Annual Price : £

Thanks in advance for your valued input.

(Hope the mods dont object to this)
Adam

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:confused: No-one?

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I have no interest personally for obvious reasons. I know a few people who might be interested in windows hosting - but you haven't said what you might be offering in this area.

Just as a side note - Most of the people I know who use hosting sites are interested in their own IP - and are not interested in loads of e-mail addresses. Dunno if that is common or just the type of people I know.

If you ever plan to offer dedicated windows servers in the uk drop me a note :)

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I can't complane about the NTHW package I already have from you KP :) it's the bees knees

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Well if you are interested we can do yo one with the following specs..

£110 / Month *
1.7 GHz Intel Celeron
256 MBytes RAM
40 GBytes IDE Hard Drive
100 GBytes Bandwidth

Setup Fee of £99 Applies *

Based in UK

Email..
sales@i-websolutions.co.uk

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If I wanted webspace I would come to you on principle :)

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Same here !!! :)

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Thanks for the info, I'll bear it in mind. :)

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I have to agree with MikeyB, the current package is great. :)

To be honest I have barely scratched the surface of it, so my static 'homepage' won't be straining any bandwidth limit, yet ;)

- I would suggest any new options be offered as individual upgrades, for an appropriate price, of course, rather than new packages? - up to you :)

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Thanks for the feedback....... we may offer a complete custom package service, with online pricing guide etc....

We were just wondering what you guys would like to see as packages..... what about free hosting??? possibly a subdomain (or option of buying domain) hosting package or something........ with 50Mb web space and 200Mb BW? things like that?

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sorry, it's at that point it goes 'over my head' - not to flame, but to give feedback - I don't understand 'subdomains' & 'windows hosting' - as for buying domains I thought I already had? ;) - etc :)

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Did someone mention free hosting??? I wouldn't say no.

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I already use I-Web :)

..but I also use another provide, which I won't spam their addy!...but they offer the first year hosting for free, 100Mb,2GB bw, unlimted emails, etc... setup is £30 on a win2k3 box.

Can you offer the same? :)

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:rofl: :rofl:
That is a good offer on the surface but lets break it down a little shall we...
1 Year free now thats a good part (after year is up what is cost per month)

£30 setup is this refundable if you cancel account at any time (In most cases no it is not refundable)
So in essence you are paying £2.50 for your hosting per momth Where we would be different would be NO setup fee but you decide which would be better
Free for 1 year with a setup fee of £30
Or paying month to month from the start and no setup fee....

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I'm slowly getting my site back up & running on I-WebSolutions after my move from my old host (it's the MikesBits site I have with I-Web), but I'm having to convert all my ASP pages & Access databases to Perl & MySQL :eek:
I'm also completely changing the look of the site as well, felt it was a good time to do it, and adding some new features too.

Must work on the graphics today, yes, thats what I'll do, I hate this part tho, I'm no good with graphics!!! :pp

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I agree they are marketing their products well, calling it free hosting but a setup fee that probably covers the cost!!!

I've not cancelled an aco****, have a few of them for different projects, so don't know if it's refund able.

The cost after the first year is £50p.a.

I've tried a few other hosts since this one is in Aussie and i think the servers are in the US. But all the UK hosts seems pants in terms of speed and relaibilty.

I do have an account with you, which I DON'T class as witht he others in the previous line :) mainly cause the account does not come with ASP, which is what I need in all my hosting packages.

I did ask you some time ago about ASP, and you said you (forgot who is what) were looking into getting windows hosting and would get back to me... :cough: :D :)

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Does this mean you have discovered who or how (or both) used your servers to send 'that mail'? Have you made them secure from such attacks in the future?

Security is one of the biggest factors for me in choosing web hosting companies. I would certainly like to know what you have done since the 'email' event, before I would consider your services or recomending them to others.

Sorry if this seems like more trouble making to you but to me they are valid questions, so I ask them. Hope that is not a problem.

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I think the biggest issue most have is knowing what their requirements are, if you could offer a base package with easy to add extras as and when they needed them:

A base package-
1xDB (allowing you to set up a forum)
200mb bandwidth
100mb storage
10 email addys

Then optional (Pick n Mix) extras:
Storage & Bandwidth Packs
subdoms, addons
Databases
FTP's
etc.

Perhaps with a free trial (2 weeks before billing) of some of the optional extras?

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I think we've done this point to death already and you are in a minority. I'm sure I-Web will reply soon to your points but we don't want any more on this subject on this forum. Take it I-Web's forum if you want to argue more.

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Hi Erol
All i can say is that we have taken certain measures since then to secure the server from this sort of attack in the future and for obvious reasons we cannot divulge this for security reasons..
Our investigations proved inconclusive as to who sent it but we know the method that was used again this is something that we are unable to divulge but rest assured that if the method is used again that we will know almost instantly with all the traceable information logged and forwarded to the appororiate persons



Yours
I-Web Solutions

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I think that offering free hosting would be a very bad business move IMO, you might be better off offering the same as above but with PHP thrown in for £1-£1.50 a month or something.

With regards to ASP, you could always install Chilisoft ASP which is a package designed for Linux.
I don't know if it supports the newer .NET type though.

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I don't think Chilisoft ASP, too many extensions and other crap running on a server and you start to notice a performance hit.

If you want ASP, then use W2K3 :D

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Agreed - if you want ASP then stick to using a windows host - and W2003 (IIS6) should be your choice now.

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Done it to death? King Phoneix and yourself both said that the mail did not come from I-web - end of story. Unfortunately the mail did come from an iweb machine.

I am in a minority? You mean a minority of people that did not believe the inacurate report here (never corrected btw by those that made the incorrect statements afaik) that the mails did not come from an Iweb machine. They did. You know that, KP knows that and I know that. I guess pointing all this out is just the kind of 'doing it to death' you would rather avoid.

I have to say it is all very NTL'esque really. First response - mislead and misinform (knowingly or unknowingly). When challenged say the matter has been dealt with and no more will be said. Maybe you should consider a job at NTL ? ;)

Who is we?
The topic of this thread was Iwebs services.
I am not arguing. I asked a (reasonable imo) question.
Iwebs machines were recently compromised. Not only were they compromised but initialy at least KP (on apperances) did not even realise that the machine had been compromised. Further the hacker appeared to enter the machine, execute their act, and leave without leaving any trace. Asking what they have done about it since is in my view a valid reasonable and on topic question to have asked in the context of the thread. Clearly though it is upsetting to yourself for some reason. So I will not say anymore if you do not.

I have had a (proper) reply to my question and so the question has been asked and answered. Thanks for that 'web junkie' (I assume you are part of the iweb team?).

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:rolleyes: Have we been here before ?

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Don't think so. Last time we were close to here we were told by KP that the mail was not sent from an Iweb machine. The statement from web junkie (if they are an I web person, which I assume they are) is not just different from anything said publically on the site by Iweb people to date, it is the exact reverse. The I web servers were compromised. The 'mail' was sent via their machine. They have worked out how it was done and taken measures to stop it happening again. Question asked and asnwered, but by no means have we been here before, as far as I can see it.

How do you see it? (PS dont reply and I wont btw).

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1. I dont beleive that your concern is the privacy of the members. I believe that your sole objective is to stir the mud and make trouble.

2. You have had an explanation for the email. I-web host this site for free ! That is something we should be greatful for.

3. The comments you made about the server go to prove how little you know about computer security. The only secure server is one that is disconnected !

4. You are in the minority - I and most of the members here are happy with the explanation. There was a problem - Its now been fixed. Whats the point in going over it again.

5. The admins/mods have stated that they do not wish the matter discused any further. That is there right - they run the site not you.

All I ever see when you post is complaints or moans. If you dont like it - dont post. Its that simple. What benifit is there in going over this again ?

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Sorry guys for the abrupt post but I feel that the above has be said !

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You know, I am so tired of your crap, I am very close to deleting your membership. You bring nothing to this forum but trouble. On .com I had to put with it, on here I do not. ;)

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:tu:

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Believe what you like m8. There was a discussion about Iweb hosting and their services. They were recently hacked. I asked what had been done to ensure that such does not happen again in the context of this discussion. Seems reasonable to me, especially given the flim flam that had been posted about the hack previously.

There was previously a statment that the mails did not come from Iweb. There was no explanation. I sought expert advise and represented it here as to why this statment was not correct. Most people running webservers commercialy would have thanked me for that (and I did get a private thanks from KP to be fair).
I do appreciate Iweb offering free hosting to sites like this. However the context of this thread was their commercial services. In such a context how secure their boxes are and how good a grip of security issue they have are of relevance imo.

Hmmm how do you 'serve' if you are disconnected and to whom do you serve? :)

Security is a complex subject and I make no claims to any expertiese. I did not know that the IP add of the machine that sent the mail to my recieveing smtp server could not be spoofed, until I sought expert advise on this. Having received such advise I am able to understand why that is so. I also took the trouble of passing on such explanations here, though little credit did it bring me (from the 'majority'*)

Yep I am in a minority. Nothing new there. I am in a minority because I was not happy with an explaination that was physicaly impossible. Sorry about that.
There was a problem. We were told categoricaly that it was nothing to do with Iweb when it is simply a matter of fact that the mails came via an Iweb machine. We have now been told that this problem (that previously did not exist, as far as public statments here went!) has been fixed. Like I say question asked and answered. All I am doing now is responding to futher posts like yours.

They have made it clear that they do not want it dicussed further, having previously put out incorrect information about it and made no corrections since. Personaly I do not think that is the was the best way of dealing with it (again very NTLish in many ways). They run the site and if they want to remove me for asking a vlid on topic question in a thread, then that is indeed their choice.

Well one clearly sees what one wants to see. You see complaints and moans, I see a valid on topic question being asked.

Don't like what? KP asked what people wanted in a web hosting service. I asked if they had closed up the hole used by the hacker or traced them. They said they have closed up that hole. Its that simple.

Benefit? The benefit is that I (and everyone else) have now been told that they have closed up whatever means the hacker used to send the mails. This increases my confidence in Iweb as a hosting service vs the previous position of public declarations that it was nothing to do with Iweb at all when patenetly it was.

Sorry people for the abrupt post but I feel that the above has be said :)

If you want to delete my membership, because I have asked a valid, on topic question in a thread, then that is your perogative, as ever.

Guess you didn't catch my post in the cap thread then, that (the?) Keyser himself praised earlier today?

Like I have repetedly said the question was asked and answered. There was no need for any more that that. As long as people go on questioning why I asked the question etc etc, then with respect I would suggest it is those people that are 'going on' and not me alone.

I asked the question - did they plug the hole yet?. The answer came back yes. Nuff said. That speaking such truth is uncomfortable to some people is not my problem really, it is theirs.

Well you (as in the plural you the .com team) did not really 'put up with it' there either did you? Many suspensions, bannings, IP blockings from even viewing the site, never recieveing a warning letter or a first 'strike' (let alone a third), getting an apology from Mr Carter etc etc etc most certainly did not feel like you were 'putting up with it', from where I was sitting.

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:blah: :rolleyes: :zzz:

For your information this matter has not been raised by any forum members since it happened...

The security hole (if there was one) has now been plugged.

Please dont take my posts out of context. When I stated "The only secure server is one that is disconnected !" I was trying to explain to you that there is no such thing as a 100% secure server - It does not exist - Period

Everyone has been happy and enjoying themselves on the site until you re-apeared....

Do you find pleasure in stiring trouble and upsetting people ?

I dont even think that you are worth typing about. - To this end I am now going to neg rep you and use my ignore button - Something I have never done before.......

Have a nice life erol....

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I am going to have to disagree with you (& Stuartbe) on this.

First of all I happen to think he had every right to ask the question - security should be the concern of any web host and i-webs security was compromised. They have now admitted this and taken measures to prevent it happening again - that is all he asked.

I can't help thinking that had anyone else asked the question then you would not be threatening to delete their account.

You may not like him or his views (neither do I for the most part) but I think he has as much right to post them here as anyone else (lets face it, some people on this forum are a damn sight more extreme than he is).

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I see where you are coming m8 - its not so much the issue here more the repeated digs at I-web and the mods/admins.....

If he had concerns about I-web's security he should have done as I would and taken isue with it via PM not taken the opertunity to have a go at I-web.

Erol aonly apears when there is some scandal afoot. He is never around when people need help.....

Sorry but we will have to agree to disagree on this one. IMO he is not a constructive member of the site and that is why I have chosen to ignore him.

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No-one is as troublesome as 'he' is, hes been asked to take his questions elsewhere but continues his crusade against us in a bid to champion his role and bore the pants off members and us. Hes in a constant, repetitive cycle, he comes, posts nonsense then has a few weeks off, gets bored of posting nonsense elsewhere. Then comes back here. I thought he would of got the message by now, going off the fact that quite a few members have said they have him on their ignore list.

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I agree with both of you about the content of some of his posts (but not all - he did have some very useful points about bandwidth usage yesterday).

I don't have anyone on my ignore list, no matter who they are - I can just as easily choose to ignore posts if I want. I do soon get bored of very long posts (like many of erol's) and tend to skip them for the most part anyway. :)

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Thats the first (and hopefully the last time) I use the ignore or neg rep...

Anyway - Lets forget it - The troll wants this to happen, all of us agruing about him and falling out....

Thats the last I am going to say on the subject !

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I wanted to ask if anyone had contacted NTL about it yet. But I knew better.

So the issue is completely behind us then.

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If you PM the admins and KP I am sure they will be happy to fill you in... !

I cant see the point in going over it again TBH - The mail was sent, the problem with the server has been fixed and nothing can be done to undo it.

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So the 'stolen' list from ntl (.com site) was used to spam from an iweb server.

We've established the fault at iweb was fixed.

Just recapping - I've lost track. What about NTL's security?

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Thats a good point.... Was an email sent to ntl ??? I seem to remember someone sending one or was it to the DPA ???

Edit :rofl: PMSL :D Just looked at the link on your sig :)

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:notopic:

Can we please get this thread back on topic. Enough is enough :)


FYI - this topic is about I-Web polling NTHW forum members to generate 'more sales' :pp by developing customer oriented and focused hosting plans.

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Sorry m8 - My bad...... :(

On topic........

KP is it possible to get some webspace just for storing files and perhaps streaming. I have some family abroad that would like to access family video's ect. Access would need to be restriced via username and password. Is this possible - If so whats the damage ?

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Could you not just make a simple site which needed a username and pass to enter?

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That would be the way we would do it.... just using htacess file......

Pricing would depend on how big the videos were...... at the moment the current NTHW packages stand......


We dont appear to be getting the feedback we require to re-shape the nthw packages to better suit your needs.....

The idea we like most at the moment is the idea from Tricky, where we offer a base package, and then depeneding on your needs you add bolt ons, and have the option to bolt these on anytime during the hosting experience. We have e-mailed the client management software company, and have been advised that the package will be able to handle such a thing in a couple of months time.

Just a heads up, we have secured another server, so if your site is hosted on eagle, then its highly likely to be moving home soon, but all customers will recieve an e-mail advising them of this.

Adam

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All you need to do is put a .htaccess file on the server.

http://www.demon.net/helpdesk/produc...htaccess.shtml

Password protecting your web pages
The Apache server supports the htaccess password mechanism. It is possible, by placing a rules file called .htaccess in a directory, to force a user to enter a user name and password pair before they can access the files in that directory. These details are checked against an .htpasswd file, the location of which is indicated in the rules file. No intervention by Demon is required to set up such a system, although some familiarity with htaccess is necessary. Some examples have been prepared to help you get started:

Allowing Password Access for Individual Users
Allowing Password Access for Groups of Users

Please bear in mind that Demon will not be able to give specific support on the setup for a particular site, there are just too many possible configurations. However further detailed information and generic examples are available from the NCSA site.

This would probably even work on the NTL free space.

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Thanks for all the idea's guys but I was looking for something more along the lines of ftp space so we can upload/download......

The streaming video would be nice but its not vital....

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I-Web already supports public and password protected FTP accounts, my package does anyway (NTHW 5).

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You can use any ol webspace then, you can ftp to it (or anyone else if you give them the password). Downloading users can use http to fetch the files, they can be restricted with a .htaccess file so grannys birthday party won't be watched by the world.

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On an update
WE are now in a position to offer .NET hosting with support for ASP PHP MSSQL and JSP
As we have now purchased another server this time a WIN 2003 server

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Possibly. How would you get the password file out from under htdocs and somewhere more secure? This is one of the issues I had with running PHP scripts within my blog - no safe place to put the configuration file(s).

Just out of interest - what do people use PHP and MySQL for? I've a static site and that's all I can ever see me needing.

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Put them in another directory, e.g. /htdocs/../secure/
Which would be c:/Apache/secure/ on Windows, username/home/secure/ on Linux.
If you're on about your NTHW blog, then you can't do this though.

I use it for storing user authenticaton data and sessions on my newest site.

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forums, guestbooks, news type editors, etc.

Business related sites are gonna run updated content that rewrites stuff on the fly, perhaps online shop and ordering.

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Yeah that was my point - you need access to a directory outside of htdocs. AFAIK NTL doesn't provide this and most hosting providers would use a shell that I've forgotten the name of now :rolleyes: A limited one - can't do much.

Yeah I knew about business uses. An individual running forums and guestbooks? Isn't that a little bit technology for technology's sake? I.e. I've got PHP and MySQL I might as well see what I can do with. Thinking about it, I can see how things like the SETI scripts would be useful, but that's all. Hmmmmm. Each to their own :)

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You've totally lost me there.
NTL do not provide PHP/SQL but a proper hosting provider would and you are able to store things in your home directory for added security.
With regards to blogs.nthellworld.co.uk, you cannot do much with that - it is intentionally limited.

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:D A restricted shell is what they call them.

I was meaning that I expected that with hosting you'd be able to telnet and ftp to a limited area of the filesystem and only be able to execute certain commands/programs. You're saying that hosting providers let you move around the filesystem and provide areas both within and outside htdocs? Summat new I've learnt :)

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No, but they let you log into your home directory which will contain directories such as public_html and public_ftp.
You can create a folder in this to store config files.