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david_w2k 19-02-2004 14:13

Saxo and electrics!
 
Right, this could in fact be two seperate problems on my Citroen Saxo. Yes i know lol, this is probably completely the wrong place, but im desperate!

My Sony head unit has suddenly decided to stop working. Nothing displays on the screen etc. I have checked the wiring and even plugged in the standard tape player, which worked.

Decided to have another look at it last night(dark) and realised the interior lighting wasnt working. I had earlier in the day checked the 10a fuse, which is fine. I have checked it again.. and its still fine.

Are these problems related, or did i break the lighting and clock by taking out the 10a fuse to check it earlier?

The battery is fine and my Infinity Basslink sub still has power directly from it and the engine starts etc.

The fuse on the head unit is fine and there is a 12 volt supply to it (checked using multimeter). Are these two seperate problems? Is my cd player dead as well as the lighting and clock etc? Is it possible that the standard tape player would work and the cd player not, without the cd player being broken?

Help much appreciated, Cheers

paulyoung666 19-02-2004 14:30

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
can you try the cd player in another car , i dont suppose it would have an internal fuse as well would it , probably not , but you never know :(


you say you checked the fuse , did you do this using a multimeter or did you just eyeball it ?????????????

SMHarman 19-02-2004 14:35

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
You've a switched live and a permanent live going into a head unit. Are both receiving power, are both properly connected . They sometimes have inline switchover plugs so as Vauxhall wiring (where these are backward) can be accomodated. These can work loose.

Check to see if an internal fuse exists (probably does).

Stuartbe 19-02-2004 14:43

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Could it be some sort of security on the head unit ? Some unit lock out if you take the memmory +12v feed away !

Just a thought !

david_w2k 19-02-2004 14:47

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Thanks for the quick responses! I multimetered the fuses. It appears that maybe (i cant tell because i may be checking the wrong cables, i will check it properly shortly...), the constant supply has failed. Is it possible that the cd player requires both the supplies to work correctly?

SMHarman 19-02-2004 14:48

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe
Could it be some sort of security on the head unit ? Some unit lock out if you take the memmory +12v feed away !

Just a thought !

Sony usually work on face off - not pin code security. Even so you would get a message on the screen such as code.

At the mo it looks like there is no power gong to the unit.

Have you tested the cables on the block connecting to the head unit, not just the power ISO block.

Stuartbe 19-02-2004 14:50

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k
Thanks for the quick responses! I multimetered the fuses. It appears that maybe (i cant tell because i may be checking the wrong cables, i will check it properly shortly...), the constant supply has failed. Is it possible that the cd player requires both the supplies to work correctly?

Yep - most head units need 2 suply's - one for retaining the memmory codes ect and one to power the unit. Some have a third that controls the backlights when the head unit is on......

Ramrod 19-02-2004 14:51

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
I thought this thread was about salt spilt in some electrical apparatus :rofl:

paulyoung666 19-02-2004 14:51

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k
Thanks for the quick responses! I multimetered the fuses. It appears that maybe (i cant tell because i may be checking the wrong cables, i will check it properly shortly...), the constant supply has failed. Is it possible that the cd player requires both the supplies to work correctly?



it would deffo need the permanent supply to work , but maybe not the switch one , as it is used to keep radio tuning etc intact , having said that , both may be needed :)

SMHarman 19-02-2004 14:52

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k
Thanks for the quick responses! I multimetered the fuses. It appears that maybe (i cant tell because i may be checking the wrong cables, i will check it properly shortly...), the constant supply has failed. Is it possible that the cd player requires both the supplies to work correctly?

Requires both.

Could be on a separate fuse - like the one for that also does the rear window, so check the cars fuses again to make sure you have caught the right ones.

david_w2k 19-02-2004 14:53

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Ok and heres the clincher. Is it possible that the original tape player (which works when the ignition is on) only needs the constant supply?

paulyoung666 19-02-2004 14:55

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k
Ok and heres the clincher. Is it possible that the original tape player (which works when the ignition is on) only needs the constant supply?



yep , that would certainly cover it :)

SMHarman 19-02-2004 14:56

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k
Ok and heres the clincher. Is it possible that the original tape player (which works when the ignition is on) only needs the constant supply?

If it only works when the ignition is on then it may work with only the switched supply (which is the one you say is working).

Salu 19-02-2004 15:32

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
nthellworld.....you can't say it isn't diverse can you?

bob_builder 19-02-2004 15:37

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
My standard Saxo CD player works on either the constant or switched power supply - don't know if that helps!

david_w2k 19-02-2004 18:19

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Thanks so much for your help guys. Changed a 20a fuse and its all up and running again:-) The Cdplayer must have required both supplies to operate.

I had forgotten how good Nthellworld is! Im back lol.

Now my mum is having a go at me again for having it too loud on the driveway :zzz:

paulyoung666 19-02-2004 18:21

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k
Thanks so much for your help guys. Changed a 20a fuse and its all up and running again:-) The Cdplayer must have required both supplies to operate.

I had forgotten how good Nthellworld is! Im back lol.

Now my mum is having a go at me again for having it too loud on the driveway :zzz:




glad you got sorted , at least my fuse thory was right :D :D :D :D

Stuartbe 19-02-2004 20:17

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
glad you got sorted , at least my fuse thory was right :D :D :D :D

Nice one paul....... If his car catches fire tonight we will know who to blame :D

paulyoung666 19-02-2004 20:23

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe
Nice one paul....... If his car catches fire tonight we will know who to blame :D




cheers mate :(


:D :D :D :D

SMHarman 20-02-2004 10:14

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by david_w2k
Thanks so much for your help guys. Changed a 20a fuse and its all up and running again:-) The Cdplayer must have required both supplies to operate.

I had forgotten how good Nthellworld is! Im back lol.

Now my mum is having a go at me again for having it too loud on the driveway :zzz:

Dynamat (or spray) my friend Dynamat. Makes it all sound much better too.

And makes the car sound ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£ÃƒÆ ’‚£Ãà¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£ more expensive, the doors suddenly shut with a clunk not a ting.

Unscrew the seats, remove the carpet, panel wipe the metal work hang the dynamat over a radiator indoors and then stick in place.

Pull door and trim panels off, boot carpet up and do the same. You SQ will go up measurably. It will also be better for your hearing as you need less volume to get the same level of interior noise and you will be able to hear the quiet (sic) parts better.

paulyoung666 20-02-2004 10:17

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excellent advice :)

Stuartbe 20-02-2004 10:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by paulyoung666
excellent advice :)

I wonder if it would work on the walls in my computer room. I would'nt be bale to hear Lesleyann's Bonjovi then :D

paulyoung666 20-02-2004 10:21

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe
I wonder if it would work on the walls in my computer room. I would'nt be bale to hear Lesleyann's Bonjovi then :D




nah you want egg boxes for that :D :D :D

david_w2k 20-02-2004 14:55

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman
Dynamat (or spray) my friend Dynamat. Makes it all sound much better too.

And makes the car sound ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£ÃƒÆ ’‚£Ãà¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚£ more expensive, the doors suddenly shut with a clunk not a ting.

Unscrew the seats, remove the carpet, panel wipe the metal work hang the dynamat over a radiator indoors and then stick in place.

Pull door and trim panels off, boot carpet up and do the same. You SQ will go up measurably. It will also be better for your hearing as you need less volume to get the same level of interior noise and you will be able to hear the quiet (sic) parts better.

Might have to give that a try :) As it is a Saxo it does rattle an awful lot at the moment!

*Lembo Tazzaldo 28-12-2006 17:14

Saxo back panel speaker removal!
 
Hi i have just found this website and thought it may be a good way to find out a solution to my problem. i have got some mutant x parcel shelf speakers, and i want to connect them to the wire from the speakers in the back panel at the side of the back seats. the only problem is that i cant get the panel off to disconnect the speakers so i can connect my new one's :confused: . if someone could help it would be much appreciated.

Graham M 28-12-2006 18:31

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Wow that was quite a bump...

Russ 28-12-2006 19:42

Re: Saxo and electrics!
 
Rather than bump an almost 3 year old thread, perhaps www.sw-cc.com might be able to give you better advice?

Chris W 28-12-2006 21:19

Re: Saxo back panel speaker removal!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *Lembo Tazzaldo (Post 34186752)
Hi i have just found this website and thought it may be a good way to find out a solution to my problem. i have got some mutant x parcel shelf speakers, and i want to connect them to the wire from the speakers in the back panel at the side of the back seats. the only problem is that i cant get the panel off to disconnect the speakers so i can connect my new one's :confused: . if someone could help it would be much appreciated.

What car is it?

have you tried the Haynes manual for disassembly instructions?


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