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James Vertigan 15-02-2004 20:27
Bloody parents!
 
I am really jealous of people who have Sky because of all the extras and more value for money stuff they get... but sadly I currently have a problem with my parents... mainly my mother!

As I am still currently living under their roof, I asked if I could get a Sky installation for my room, as I currently get £66 a week on Jobseekers allowance... after Sky sub deduction that would leave me with £224 a month for essentials such as food, clothes and rent (if my parents decide to charge me rent!) I already have enough clothes that fit me as it is, and I usually spend very little on food...

So, I sit down and talk it through with my parents... my father seems OK with the idea, just as long as the dish goes on the back of the house so it's not really noticeable... fair enough says I (my bedroom is at the back of the house anyway)

My mother on the other hand... I don't think she understands the value for money that Sky has over NTL... she says "What's the problem with all the channels we've already got?" I say "Nothing, but you get about twice as many channels on Sky and better services so it's better value for money"... she then goes all sarcastic over the "twice as many channels" comment and says "and twice as much crap" (just 'cos there's "nothing on" when she wants to watch it!) So basicallly she says No, and if I do get it installed I get kicked out of the house...

And then as we may be moving to Devon soon my Dad says "When we move we might get Sky" - If I have anything to do with it, that "might" will change to a "will" :pp...

I slightly agree with my Dad as it seems a bit silly to get Sky installed and then move out of the house... but I'm buying a present for myself for once... am I not allowed to do that?? I'm impatient and jealous! Impatient because I can't wait until we move down to Devon (probably July this year) and jealous of all the people I know who have a great Sky system to play with every day!

What can I do???

dilli-theclaw 15-02-2004 20:31
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Vertigan
I am really jealous of people who have Sky because of all the extras and more value for money stuff they get... but sadly I currently have a problem with my parents... mainly my mother!

As I am still currently living under their roof, I asked if I could get a Sky installation for my room, as I currently get £66 a week on Jobseekers allowance... after Sky sub deduction that would leave me with £224 a month for essentials such as food, clothes and rent (if my parents decide to charge me rent!) I already have enough clothes that fit me as it is, and I usually spend very little on food...

So, I sit down and talk it through with my parents... my father seems OK with the idea, just as long as the dish goes on the back of the house so it's not really noticeable... fair enough says I (my bedroom is at the back of the house anyway)

My mother on the other hand... I don't think she understands the value for money that Sky has over NTL... she says "What's the problem with all the channels we've already got?" I say "Nothing, but you get about twice as many channels on Sky and better services so it's better value for money"... she then goes all sarcastic over the "twice as many channels" comment and says "and twice as much crap" (just 'cos there's "nothing on" when she wants to watch it!) So basicallly she says No, and if I do get it installed I get kicked out of the house...

And then as we may be moving to Devon soon my Dad says "When we move we might get Sky" - If I have anything to do with it, that "might" will change to a "will" :pp...

I slightly agree with my Dad as it seems a bit silly to get Sky installed and then move out of the house... but I'm buying a present for myself for once... am I not allowed to do that?? I'm impatient and jealous! Impatient because I can't wait until we move down to Devon (probably July this year) and jealous of all the people I know who have a great Sky system to play with every day!

What can I do???
Get a Job - Get a flat and have it installed :confused:

kronas 15-02-2004 20:32
Re: Bloody parents!
 
in theory you should have sky installed at your expense, with any monthly costs payed by you, having said that i will warn you that most of the programs on most channels are either repeats or 'timeshifted' to 'make up the numbers' the repeats are specifically aimed at the movie channels, timeshifting occurs on channels such as discovery and the multiplied channels which also share timeshifted content at another time.

your left with the music channels which play the same music in a diffarent playlist, with the odd nonsensical dire peice of 'music' played to make things look diffarent.

Alanmelon 15-02-2004 20:36
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Sorry to go :notopic: Thank you for your monthly budget breakdown, it's nice to know my taxes are being put to good use. :rolleyes:

Russ 15-02-2004 20:36
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Mams always get the final say in matters like this, even when dads agree with you... :(

Incidentally, you're on Jobseeker's Allowance - I work full-time (2 jobs in fact) so does that make my pay "Jobdoer's Allowance"??

On second thoughts, don't answer that :disturbd:

dilli-theclaw 15-02-2004 20:39
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ D
Mams always get the final say in matters like this, even when dads agree with you... :(

Incidentally, you're on Jobseeker's Allowance - I work full-time (2 jobs in fact) so does that make my pay "Jobdoer's Allowance"??

On second thoughts, don't answer that :disturbd:
'Jobdoer's Allowance' - I like that :pp I've never thought of myself on jobdoers allowance before :scratch:

Maggy 15-02-2004 20:50
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Hmm! Right now your mother is probably thinking Bl**dy kids!

:Peaceman: She is probably concerned that you might possibly need to use your money for 'other' things and that feels putting so much of your money into this venture isn't a good idea.
You will just have to prove to her that you CAN be an adult that can be trusted and try not to behave in a sulky manner whilst showing her that you CAN manage your money.I reckon that with your father on your side that eventually you will get Sky without having to dip into your own pocket.Eventually you may actually gain financially.Frankly the time WILL fly (July is only 5 and half months away).

However a word of advice, don't nag.Us mothers just dig our heels in if our teenage sons nag and we get very stubborn. :)

Incog.

Nor 15-02-2004 21:04
Re: Bloody parents!
 
You get £66 on job seekers allowance at 18 ? That can't be right, surely mate. I thought it was £45 for under 25's and £55 for over 25's. ps just tell your mum you are gonna spend it on drink if you've got the money spare :)

James Vertigan 15-02-2004 21:14
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ D
Mams always get the final say in matters like this, even when dads agree with you... :(
Yeah, and its usually the men who pay all the bills anyway! :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
You will just have to prove to her that you CAN be an adult that can be trusted and try not to behave in a sulky manner whilst showing her that you CAN manage your money.I reckon that with your father on your side that eventually you will get Sky without having to dip into your own pocket
I have proved to her I can manage my money... whenever I don't have much money on me, I use my Solo card to pay for things if I can, which therefore saves me from taking £10 out of the bank every time... so I have plenty left in the bank. I even buy presents myself for all my family for birthdays and Christmas.. and other times too, sometimes. I don't mind paying for Sky, as originally before I went on to JSA, I said that when we move to Devon if I got a job my pocket money (which was £40 a month) could be stopped and put towards Sky... but as I said I'm getting a bit impatient of waiting to move, and getting more sick of NTL by the minute!

Although you say 5 months will go quickly... it's still a long time and it can drag its heels sometimes!


Quote:
However a word of advice, don't nag.Us mothers just dig our heels in if our teenage sons nag and we get very stubborn. :)
Tell me about it! :pp

James Vertigan 15-02-2004 21:17
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nor
You get £66 on job seekers allowance at 18 ? That can't be right, surely mate. I thought it was £45 for under 25's and £55 for over 25's. ps just tell your mum you are gonna spend it on drink if you've got the money spare :)
I think I get a bit extra as I was previously on Disability allowance as I have a slight physical disability.

Nor 15-02-2004 21:19
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Ah right fair enough mate. Well.... I think you should pursue the 'I'll spend it on drink' route as persuasion :) Good luck.

Maggy 15-02-2004 21:26
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nor
Ah right fair enough mate. Well.... I think you should pursue the 'I'll spend it on drink' route as persuasion :) Good luck.
You could do that but it might backfire.Us mothers are more subtle than you think.We now how to aggravate a hangover. :rofl:

mrm1 15-02-2004 21:36
Re: Bloody parents!
 
You think you got probs with parents... Wait till you become a parent yourself. Then youve got real problems............... :eek:


Anyway, back on topic, if your moving soon why not wait till then ?

Florence 15-02-2004 21:47
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
You could do that but it might backfire.Us mothers are more subtle than you think.We now how to aggravate a hangover. :rofl:
You are right there its simple to make the pans nosier and the vacuum cleaner always sounds worse after drink. Start earlier after a nights drinking.

Seriously if you are moving in five and half months its best to wait the contract on sky is 12 months and I am not sure what they are like to transfer to another address.

Stuartbe 15-02-2004 22:05
Re: Bloody parents!
 
It is your parents house so you should respect there wishes....

Get your own place as soon as you can - The feeling of freedom is fantastic.... :)

Shaun 15-02-2004 22:24
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartbe
It is your parents house so you should respect there wishes....

Get your own place as soon as you can - The feeling of freedom is fantastic.... :)
Unless you rent from a landlord that won't allow Sky!! :)

Stuartbe 15-02-2004 22:32
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dellwear
Unless you rent from a landlord that won't allow Sky!! :)
Like me :(

kronas 16-02-2004 15:00
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartbe
Like me :(
yes but you have your 'entertainment' for those boring times :naughty: :D

Stuartbe 16-02-2004 15:04
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kronas
yes but you have your 'entertainment' for those boring times :naughty: :D
:LOL: Be carefull m8 - you never know when she is about :D

Charlie_Bubble 16-02-2004 15:14
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Well, if you move to Devon you'll have no option but to get SKY. NTL aren't down that far. My parents live in cornwall and I don't think NTL or Telewest have heard of that county! :) Just chill out until you get down there. If you get it now you'd have all the hassle of arranging for it to be moved etc. I can tell you that there isn't much more on Sky additional to what they have on NTL, well, nothing worth having. The only thing better is the fact the red button isn't redundant and when sky set themselves something to do, it usually appears and roughly when they say it will.

James Vertigan 17-02-2004 05:35
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Yes... I know for a fact you can't get cable in my area of Devon... too rural! Rather surprisingly though, you can get Freeview(and Sky of course!). I think you can get Telewest (Eurobell) services but that's in the Exeter area...

According to the NTL postcode checker... I can still get one NTL service, but not sure if we'll be taking it up... something called NTL Freedom (£15 p/m).

Stuartbe 17-02-2004 07:58
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Vertigan
Yes... I know for a fact you can't get cable in my area of Devon... too rural! Rather surprisingly though, you can get Freeview(and Sky of course!). I think you can get Telewest (Eurobell) services but that's in the Exeter area...

According to the NTL postcode checker... I can still get one NTL service, but not sure if we'll be taking it up... something called NTL Freedom (£15 p/m).
Its just a bod standard dial up that is mostly engaged and cuts you off after 2 hours (thats if you can connect at all!) dont bother m8 :)

Paulie 17-02-2004 09:23
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Save your money `till you get down to Devon, then pay for a second box in your room.

Starsurfer 18-02-2004 14:10
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Dear child do as I tell you and alll will be fine , get the dish placed on a good neighbours house, get it wired to your place, get the bill sent to ur place, or dd, and all is happy/

Maggy 18-02-2004 15:53
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsurfer
Dear child do as I tell you and alll will be fine , get the dish placed on a good neighbours house, get it wired to your place, get the bill sent to ur place, or dd, and all is happy/
Ooooh yes mother will be impressed by such 'adult' behaviour.

Starsurfer 18-02-2004 16:11
Re: Bloody parents!
 
hey dude, i dont hear your lazy ass suggesting nothing. I work all day to pay your bills , so you have roof over your head, and this is how you talk to your 13 year old mother........ dont take that tone with me, dont even think about giving me that look, I invented that look. TUT TUT!

Maggy 18-02-2004 16:20
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsurfer
hey dude, i dont hear your lazy ass suggesting nothing. I work all day to pay your bills , so you have roof over your head, and this is how you talk to your 13 year old mother........ dont take that tone with me, dont even think about giving me that look, I invented that look. TUT TUT!
Do not give this 51 year old TEACHER and MOTHER any sass or backchat DEAR,and watch the punctuation especially when using the first person singular.It should be I not i.As for the look,I perfected it 30 years ago and it's getting better all the while. :PP: :PP: :PP:

zoombini 18-02-2004 16:39
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Yes miss.... no miss....... :D

Isnt a "jobseekers" allowance supposed to mean that your out looking for a job, how come you got time to watch TV?..

Given that you will be into a 12 month contract when you get it, if your moving soon, maybe best to wait till then & maybe chip in for the install/gear get 2nd box etc.

Perhaps get yourself the DVD/VCR setup etc & have the current box wired up to your room too. Also buy yourself some other presents for now, like a trip to Tasmania or something (maybe even a flash car to impress the lasses...)

Starsurfer 18-02-2004 20:47
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
Do not give this 51 year old TEACHER and MOTHER any sass or backchat DEAR,and watch the punctuation especially when using the first person singular.It should be I not i.As for the look,I perfected it 30 years ago and it's getting better all the while. :PP: :PP: :PP:
Too easy.https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2004/02/6.gif

kronas 18-02-2004 20:49
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsurfer
:rofl:

teachers will always be teachers :D :pp

Maggy 18-02-2004 20:55
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsurfer
Ah a botty to spank. :) Where's my slipper? ;)

Starsurfer 18-02-2004 20:56
Re: Bloody parents!
 
hey teacher which school you teach in?

kronas 18-02-2004 21:02
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
Ah a botty to spank. :) Where's my slipper? ;)
*finds number for the education board

:rofl: :eek: :nono: ;)

*reads headline

a 51 year old female teacher has been suspended after alledgedly spanking a childs rear end, this goes against the 'establishments' rules :rofl:

Stuartbe 18-02-2004 21:14
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kronas
*finds number for the education board

:rofl: :eek: :nono: ;)

*reads headline

a 51 year old female teacher has been suspended after alledgedly spanking a childs rear end, this goes against the 'establishments' rules :rofl:
But they let her off as the boy realy deserved it :D

Maggy 18-02-2004 21:16
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by kronas
*finds number for the education board

:rofl: :eek: :nono: ;)

*reads headline

a 51 year old female teacher has been suspended after alledgedly spanking a childs rear end, this goes against the 'establishments' rules :rofl:
You aren't too big either my lad.

kronas,you know what I'm going to suggest don't you?Yes sort out the punctuation. :D It's better than it was but you could do better :wavey:

Stuartbe 18-02-2004 21:17
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
You aren't too big either my lad.

kronas,you know what I'm going to suggest don't you?Yes sort out the punctuation. :D It's better than it was but you could do better :wavey:
Take 100 lines .....

I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril

:D :D :D :D

Starsurfer 18-02-2004 21:21
Re: Bloody parents!
 
I must know, where do you teach?

Maggy 18-02-2004 21:33
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Starsurfer
I must know, where do you teach?
Why? Suddenly worried? :D

Stuartbe 18-02-2004 22:38
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
Why? Suddenly worried? :D
Perhaps he wants some good old fasioned disipline :D

Starsurfer 18-02-2004 22:49
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Yes

smegs 18-02-2004 22:53
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartbe
Perhaps he wants some good old fasioned disipline :D
i can help you out there :naughty:

Stuartbe 18-02-2004 22:58
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smegs
i can help you out there :naughty:
* Cough *

kronas 18-02-2004 23:52
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smegs
i can help you out there :naughty:
i knew you could, im waiting for some :naughty: :pp :naughty: :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartbe
Take 100 lines .....

I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril
I must not start threads about avril

:D :D :D :D
:mad: :Peace: :grind: :romance:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
You aren't too big either my lad.
i know, but im big in other areas :naughty: :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
kronas,you know what I'm going to suggest don't you?Yes sort out the punctuation. :D It's better than it was but you could do better :wavey:
give me a break, one post without it......... :rolleyes:


Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartbe
But they let her off as the boy realy deserved it :D
no he doesent!!!

smegs 18-02-2004 23:55
Re: Bloody parents!
 
[QUOTE=kronas]i knew you could, im waiting for some :naughty: :pp :naughty: :D



Your waiting for my help, help in what excatly :naughty:

kronas 19-02-2004 00:19
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by smegs
Your waiting for my help, help in what excatly :naughty:
i feel i need some discipline sometimes, you know us teens, we like to 'preform' from time to time. :naughty: :rofl:

Starsurfer 19-02-2004 01:37
Re: Bloody parents!
 
remember, thats a 51 year old teacher you are saying that too. Take a deep breath , remember she is the enemy, and where do you teach?

Maggy 19-02-2004 10:24
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by stuartbe
* Cough *
Now,now,not in front of the children :nono:


Incog. :)

Stuartbe 19-02-2004 10:28
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Incognitas
Now,now,not in front of the children :nono:


Incog. :)
Sorry Miss - I'l go and stand in the corner :D

Frank 19-02-2004 10:43
Re: Bloody parents!
 
:notopic:

Maggy 19-02-2004 10:49
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser
:notopic:
Ok!But I didn't start it.Sorry all the same. :)

Starsurfer 19-02-2004 22:52
Re: Bloody parents!
 
OK, back to the sky. I am sure if you set it out well, i.e create a presentation of sorts, with mathematical calculations and stuff, completly over complicate it and make it look 100% than what you have now, you will get it.

zoombini 19-02-2004 23:00
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Have you got a VCR upstairs?

Can you get a mate to tape you some really boring (to her) programs that you just have to watch downstairs all the time, on the VCR, getting in the way.
It will be so easy then, for her to agree that you might be better off with a Sky box in your own rooom.
Kerrang is a good start :D

onephat 22-02-2004 12:38
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kitty
You are right there its simple to make the pans nosier and the vacuum cleaner always sounds worse after drink. Start earlier after a nights drinking.

Seriously if you are moving in five and half months its best to wait the contract on sky is 12 months and I am not sure what they are like to transfer to another address.
Oh they'll transfer you alright but ovbiously they charge. If your system is within thre 12 months i believe in order to retain the sky installation warrenty you will need to pay SKy In Home Service to reinstall it. Outside of that you might as well get a local installer to do it and save a few quid. Ovbiously the warrenty on the actual digi box itsself is a completely different matter.

James Vertigan 23-02-2004 09:33
Re: Bloody parents!
 
Well to tell you the truth, I'm not as fussed at the moment about getting Sky as I was when I originally posted this topic... It's just that that day we had been on my cousin's farm in Oxfordshire and she has Sky and until the rugby came on I was able to explore all the great things on there which really made me want it... If I was in somewhere like Dixons and they had a Sky system on display I'd probably be playing with it all day!

One of the main reasons I wanted it here in London was because you can watch TV from other BBC/ITV regions, and this would be a good way to keep up with news in Devon... but if we are getting it in Devon it'll be sort of vice versa...

If any of you are members over at DigitalSpy you probably would have seen I had a brief chat recently with a Sky agent who was flogging the £10 installation in my local Safeway (Morrisons!) store... he said he knew engineers down in Devon and when we move down there I should give him a call and get this £10 install... which will give me a brand new box as apparently some of the boxes used on the £1 internet install are not new!


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