Europe/Euro
 

Some food for thought on Europe

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i cant say im suprised by delors comments, i have always been strongly against the euro, because of the nature of the system in a centralisation of all laws and financial decisions that would be taken off a country's government...........

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same here too , i would rather be part of usa than useurope , hang on i have been here before :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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the US makes me cringe when it passes some of its laws, but atleast each state can make its own. :tu:

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Only up to a point. I seem to recall that when the driinking age was raised to 21 that it was "optional", but states that didn`t adopt the law were threatened with having federal funding reduced.

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ah yes forgot about that one thanks for the refresh/correction :)

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I think there shoud be the euro and we should be part of the consitution (whens its a bit fairer) also they can decide vat rates and at the moment we have a fooking high vat rate

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no no i totally disagree, look at the country's enconomies that have joined up, germany comes to mind, they are having huge problems...........

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Exactly, the interest rates would be decided by a bank outside of the UK, probably in Germany and they are going to set the rates to suit the Germans...

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each of the countrys in the world have very diffarent financial needs, some need to control inflation, some need to bolster spending, some want to keep interest rates minimal, this is not a one size fits all world even if it means a single currency is to be established it just does not seem logical :shrug:

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Yet in Ireland .. we're not.

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i did not mean every country your economy is lucky it has adapted to the currency well, but i dont believe the british economy would cope.

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You didn't specify selected countries, you inferred all countries that have adopted the euro and why don't you think the UK economy will cope with it?

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sorry i will improve my wording next time :rolleyes:

i dont think it would cope because we have a large economy, one of the largest and unpredictable ones at that for interest rates and expenditure of the resources the budget needs to be balanced in affect the uk itself will lose out on currency money wise.......

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O.k. a lot of words but very little said, perhaps you could expand on your theory? (could you use comma's though, it makes it easier to read)

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this link will explain it better.

http://www.wbp.org.uk/download/euro.pdf

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I was asking you, not 'Wigan Borough Partnership'

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it pretty much says what i have, and would have said..............

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How convenient ..

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How convenient? What, that Kronas read something that he agreed with so, rather than trying to reproduce it all, he just posted a link to it?

Yep, convenient. But not indicative of anything else, I think...

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In your opinion perhaps, not everyone jumps to find a web document when asked to back up an opposing viewpoint though, some prefer to articulate their own knowledge.

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Sure. After all I've never posted links to back up what I've been saying...

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If you're backing up factual information rather than speculation on how Germany are going to shaft the UK if they adopt the Euro then fair play ...

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And how exactly is someone supposed to "back up factual information" for something that *hasn't happened yet*???

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They're not, which is why I asked for his opinion rather than just showing me a link to something someone else has compiled.

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ah, economic theorys ... they're incredibly complex you know, too complex to extrapolate whether joining or staying out of the â‚ ¬ would be 'good/bad' for the uk. you could run the same model a 100 times and get several distinct outcomes! theres only one way to find out for sure.

but the whole EU/â‚ ¬ thingy seems to me a natural progression of whats been happening for millenia. hunter/gatherer groups to tribes, tribes to kingdoms, kingdoms to nation states, empires, nation states to 'transnational progressivism'.

i myself support the integration of europe but it's happening too quickly. most of the time i think we should stay out of the â‚ ¬ for now.