Wireless broadband help appreciated
 

Ok I'm verging on the edge of insanity at this point and hopefully some kind soul will be able to save me before I tumble into the abyss. :disturbd:

Where to start......

The laptop is running XP and pc is running Me. The wireless broadband connection is Binatone WL 1000. Followed all instructions and everything looked good. Installed hardware, software. Laptop can see the access point and has good connection but there is no connection to the internet no matter you do, tapdancing and handstands included. Have pinged with success from both machines, have unistalled, reinstalled til I'm blue in the face. Spent a long time on the telephone to Binatone being talked through all the steps for him to say that what was needed was some up to date software from NTL???? Rang NTL and basically they said unplug the lot and wait a couple minutes etc, etc. Failing that take it back and buy such and such instead. :rolleyes: They have no idea what the man from Binatone meant about software.

So back to nice man at Binatone who talked us through some more steps to no avail. He was left baffled, I was left sectionable. We changed the link cable to a crossover but still no joy. At the moment it's been about 23 hours with very little sleep. I really don't want to admit defeat but I'm running out of options and prozac :banghead:

I also have 3 IP addies. AP is 192.168.1.1 , Laptop 192.168.1.2 and PC 192.168.1.3

I'm sure I've left out loads of important relevant info but as everything other than being able to browse the net from the laptop I couldn't think of anything specific to add

Any helpful suggestions will be much appreciated

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You cannot share a cable modem connection between 2 or more PCs with merely a wireless access point. You need a NAT router, or a combined wireless NAT router as the base station. As far as I know Binatone don't market a wireless NAT router, so I guess you have only a simple access point.

What is the make and model number of whatever you are using as a wireless base station, so we can check?

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First of all - welcome to the site :wavey: :welcome: Everyone here is very helpfull - I am sure that we can sort out your problem...

O.K. One ot two questions for you.

1. Are the clients (pc's) using dhcp or have you set them up manualy ? If you are not using dhcp you may have missed the default gateway entry or the dns entry's

2. Are you using a set top box to access the net ? If you are you need to insure 2 things - 1. you are using a cross over cable between the set top box and the router. 2. You have set the router to clone the mac address of the network card you had it plugged into or register the new macx address online.

I hope this is of help - If there is any more info you can give us it would be helpfull. You could run ipconfig /all from a dos prompt on all the machines and post the results - This would help.

Cheers

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DOH !! didn't notice that rdhw... That will teach me not to read the post fully !!!!!

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Thanks for the welcome and quick replies guys.


http://www.binatonebroadband.com/Pro...&Tnav=Features

This is the basic set up.

I have no idea as to what is what as I was basically given the stuff and told to get on with it. I wasn't aware a router was needed and only had basic instructions to follow (which seemed pretty adequate until it came to the crunch)

It is a set top to answer part of question two. At this precise moment the host pc is unplugged from the network (I lost connection somehow and gave up) and I have direct connection to the laptop.

As to question 1 that is a very good possibility as I wasn't sure what I was supposed to be putting so thinking back through the fog that seems pretty relevant. Also if you have the patience it would be helpful if you explained in blonde terms. Whether it's the scrambled brains or the last few strands of blonde inbetween the fast appearing grey I'm sort of lost with tech speak. I'm not usually so thick :(

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You can do it if one PC has two network cards. You need to explain what is plugged into what and then we will tell you why it doesn't work. You also don't say what AP you have, the WL 1000 being an PCMCIA 802.11b card.

Edit: You need to plug the CM and the access point into the "gateway" PC. I will assume the desktop is going to be the gateway.

You can either connect the gateway PC to the AP via the RJ45 connection or buy a wireless PCI or USB device. The Cable modem must be connected to the PC via USB or Ethernet (preferable).

You then need to install some routing software on the gateway machine, such as Windows ICS (preferably not!), Winroute, Sygate Home Network, etc. This will translate the requests from the laptop back and forth thru the gateway PC.

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I kinda get the feeling I should either

a. Drown my sorrows big stylee and worry about it tomorrow
b. Aim entire equiptment with precise accuracy at stupid person who caused me my 24 hours of futile frustrations
or
c. Sell the laptop and buy a dog

Many thanks for you help :D

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So it looks like this:

Inet <----> Cable Modem <----> Gateway PC <--wire(less)--> AP <--| AIR |-->WL1000 in Laptop

I am assuming you will use a cable to connect the gateway PC to the AP as the pack doesn't come with a wireless PIC card for the gateway machine.

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hi bertykat and welcome.. basically you need a setup that resembles this image:

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(you would most likely have the "network hub" and "cable/dsl router" in one unit if you bought one today)

as rdhw said.. it won't work without that router

:edit: sorry keyser didn't see you posting there.. :/edit:

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Yes it will work without a router, he/she has all the stuff apart from a software router for the gateway machine.

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What Image m8 ?? :D Somebody's had too much beer !!

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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and gloom but I dont this this is going to cut it m8

Ahhh no worries mate. To be quite honest it's a ruddy relief. At least I can give up and spend time with more important things, like.........ummmm chocolate :D

A good enough reason for consoling yourself after making such a humiliating debut :rofl:

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Your not sunk yet m8 -- As keyser says .. It can be done. The only problem is that without a router you will need to leave the gateway pc on.

Dont give up -- We will be able to sort you out I'm sure :D

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You will need to plug the modem into one network card on the pc and the access point into the other. Set up Internet Conection sharing and bingo - You will be working !!!!

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Ok at the risk of humiliating myself further (in for a penny....) let me try and get this straight in my head, which incidentally is a pretty scary place at the moment.

I plug into host similar card to one which currently resides in client. Use crossover cable to connect from pc to modem and connect AP to modem?

:rofl: No life could not be that simple. Section me now or pour a double JD with chocolate on the side :)

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You can do that, but you have a choice. In the back of the access point is an RJ45 connectior, which you can use to plug the AP into the gateway PC with an ethernet cable.

Alternatively, you can buy a wirelesss PCI card and put it into the gateway PC and use that to connect to the AP.

PS. Pls post in a nice font :)

PPS. I think it's a straight ethernet cable from PC to CM.

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Nope :D card goes in the client. Access point plugs into one of the two network cards you have in the pc. The other network card connects to the set top box via the cross over cable. The following will then hapen.

Your laptop is asked to bring up a web site. It transmits via radio to the access point. The access point then sends the request to network card no.1. The pc then routes then asks the set top box for the page via network card no.2 to the modem

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Ok font changed :D apologies for any offence caused.

Two network cards? I'm lost at this point. The host has previously been networked (successfully I might add) and still has nic, any help or relevance?

AP would link to pc through a network card and host would then connect using crossover cable to modem.

The reason I was asking about using WL 1000 cardbus in the host is because I have a spare

Seriously I wanna say thanks for taking the time to try and help.

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Jeez I'm a spoonhead. Reading back through reminded me when I first installed the card and software on the laptop, after reboot up popped network bridge??? Any relevance. It wasn't there before and there wasn't anything mentioned in the spiel. I kinda deleted it at one of the uninstalls thinking it would pop back up when I reinstalled but it didn't. :rolleyes:

Also probably a totally irrelevant factor but I'm running zonealarm and AVG. I even disabled them during instalation to no avail.

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The colour needs some work though ;)

I was just wondering where you got the access point? Did you get it off the web or from a local shop? I'm saying this because you may end up with a working setup following all the advice above, but for a little more (a wireless router), you would have had a far more flexible setup (it doesn't require the gateway machine to be on).

If you got it from a local shop, you may want to consider going back, explain the situation (maybe say you weren't properly informed), and see if you can exchange the access point for a router (paying the extra cost).

If you got it off the web, you could still try the same, but you would be charged for returning an item that you ordered and is in good working order.

Just my 2p.

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A compromise? Hard to please, you guys ;)

Ok the set up was a gift (I must have been on the naughty list) so in reality hasn't cost me anything in monetary terms, only 25 hours of my life, so far.

To be honest I could be tempted to return items to gift bearer inserted into orifices that the sun is rumoured to make an appearance from every once in a while but I have calmed down somewhat and have renewed hope that there is a chance of reaching a happy conclusion.

I think maybe a reprieve of 24 hours is in order, after that I will probably rethink the game plan (there are a million things I need to do before I reach 30) and use plan b :D

Thanks for the advice, I'll keep you updated.