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Frank 15-01-2004 12:49

ntl to launch new mail platform
 
http://www.nthellworld.co.uk/index.p...ype=news&id=25

Thoughts?

Jon M 15-01-2004 12:56

Re: ntl to launch new mail platform
 
any idea on timescales?

Frank 15-01-2004 13:00

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Nope, I guess that's for ntl to Communicate, in which case I guess we'll see it when it arrives.

basa 15-01-2004 13:02

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All I see is a new email interface platform. Considering I already use OE and Opera M2, how will this improve ntl's email server operations ?? :rolleyes:

Neil 15-01-2004 13:05

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I can't help but feel it's mainly a hardware issue, with mail servers that simply cannot cope with the amount of mailboxes they are offering (15 for each customer)

That would be unlike ntl wouldn't it? :rolleyes:

Paul K 15-01-2004 13:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser
Nope, I guess that's for ntl to Communicate, in which case I guess we'll see it when it arrives.

Is it "Coming Soon"? :naughty: more importantly though is .... will it work?

Neil 15-01-2004 13:08

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Originally Posted by Paul
Is it "Coming Soon"? :naughty: more importantly though is .... will it work?

Yes, & no respectively!

Gogogo 15-01-2004 13:12

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Originally Posted by Keyser


Very interesting, I didn't know NTL cared about its e-mail service. One assumes then that if this is the future we shall have guaranteed trouble free accessing and sending email. No more of those issues have been resolved messages!


:D

Scarlett 15-01-2004 13:17

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Originally Posted by Keyser

Is that 'advance' as in working ?

All I want is to come home each day and find my inbox containing the days mail rather than 1001 dialogue windows stating that mailbox X didn't authenticate... saying that, I like the idea of finding less spam in the inbox....

homealone 15-01-2004 13:24

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The cynic in me says that what we will end up with is a 3rd party messenging application that will append adverts for NTL to every message & still not improve the performance of the hardware.:shrug:

Also - anyone know whether this will be opt in or compulsory? - that @nthellworld addy is looking increasingly attractive:)

Frank 15-01-2004 14:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by basa
All I see is a new email interface platform. Considering I already use OE and Opera M2, how will this improve ntl's email server operations ?? :rolleyes:

That's a screenshot of the webmail interface. The actual software is a whole new e-mail platform. i.e. e-mail server.

allanprg 15-01-2004 15:00

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I'd be interested to see if this new email software will be any better than the existing one that NTL have now. I'm having enough trouble with the email at the moment. It's taking ages to get any to come through. We'll have to wait to see how long this takes to come about. :rolleyes:

basa 15-01-2004 15:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser
That's a screenshot of the webmail interface. The actual software is a whole new e-mail platform. i.e. e-mail server.

Yeh sorry, I didn't look too carefully. It still doesn't appear to address email server overload though ? :rolleyes: I presume ntl are hoping a more effective software solution will ease their hardware problems. :confused:

paulyoung666 15-01-2004 15:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
The cynic in me says that what we will end up with is a 3rd party messenging application that will append adverts for NTL to every message & still not improve the performance of the hardware.:shrug:

Also - anyone know whether this will be opt in or compulsory? - that @nthellworld addy is looking increasingly attractive:)



i am with you on this one gaz :)

Frank 15-01-2004 16:12

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Originally Posted by basa
I presume ntl are hoping a more effective software solution will ease their hardware problems. :confused:

Indeed :D I doubt that very much though, what with the new features. Rarely does a newer version of software use less resources, especially one with anti-spam and anti-virus features added.

Or maybe they are buying/have bought some new servers for their e-mail platform.

You know what is really sad in all this though? ntl just DO NOT communicate :mad:

andygrif 16-01-2004 10:18

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I have to say that I am somewhat heartened by this. Email is the most important part of internet access to get right, and I am glad that they are finally sorting it out - it's been supremely poor for far too long now.

On the whole there do seem to be some good new initiatives that ntl are taking from the internet side...this, newgroup updgrade trials, online account management. Whether or not any of it will work is of course another matter - but they do seem to be making an effort. I hope the money doesn't run out before they finish it (like last time)

MetaWraith 16-01-2004 10:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
The cynic in me says that what we will end up with is a 3rd party messenging application that will append adverts for NTL to every message & still not improve the performance of the hardware.:shrug:

Also - anyone know whether this will be opt in or compulsory? - that @nthellworld addy is looking increasingly attractive:)

cynic ?? generally, with respect to ntl, isn't the cynical view also the realistic view. After all we joined a forum called NTHell. :naughty: :angel:

Sociable 16-01-2004 11:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Keyser
You know what is really sad in all this though? ntl just DO NOT communicate :mad:

Agree 100% Keyser.

Even when they do try to do the right thing (eventually) they seem to lack the ability to communicate effectively.

My guess is with this one someone thought, "Oh dear we can't let our customers know about this it would mean admitting we got it wrong before".

I, and I expect many more, would have far more respect for NTL if they were able, just once in a while, to say, "Sorry we screwed up but we acknowledge our faults and are doing something about it".

Echoing previous posts, the proof of this particular pudding will be just how long it takes to impliment the new E-mail and and how well NTL handle the changeover.

Involving customers in the process as well as actually keeping them informed would be a worthwhile step forward for them IMHO, but the "Old Dog" will have to learn some new tricks be able to do that effectively.

Gogogo 16-01-2004 12:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andygrif
I have to say that I am somewhat heartened by this. Email is the most important part of internet access to get right, and I am glad that they are finally sorting it out - it's been supremely poor for far too long now.

On the whole there do seem to be some good new initiatives that ntl are taking from the internet side...this, newgroup updgrade trials, online account management. Whether or not any of it will work is of course another matter - but they do seem to be making an effort. I hope the money doesn't run out before they finish it (like last time)


:D :rofl:

Chrysalis 16-01-2004 12:15

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I would be surprised if it fixed current email issues.

homealone 16-01-2004 12:37

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Originally Posted by MetaWraith
cynic ?? generally, with respect to ntl, isn't the cynical view also the realistic view. After all we joined a forum called NTHell. :naughty: :angel:

lol, it is easy to take the jaundiced view, in a reasonable expectation that will become the reality ;)

To be fair, though, from my perspective the e-mail service is the only aspect of NTL's performance, lately, that has disappointed. (the jury being out on newsgroups atm while we see how the current trial goes :) ).

ntluser 16-01-2004 13:00

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Originally Posted by Sociable
Agree 100% Keyser.

Even when they do try to do the right thing (eventually) they seem to lack the ability to communicate effectively.

My guess is with this one someone thought, "Oh dear we can't let our customers know about this it would mean admitting we got it wrong before".

I, and I expect many more, would have far more respect for NTL if they were able, just once in a while, to say, "Sorry we screwed up but we acknowledge our faults and are doing something about it".

Echoing previous posts, the proof of this particular pudding will be just how long it takes to impliment the new E-mail and and how well NTL handle the changeover.

Involving customers in the process as well as actually keeping them informed would be a worthwhile step forward for them IMHO, but the "Old Dog" will have to learn some new tricks be able to do that effectively.

I think a little honesty and openness would earn NTL a lot more respect. After all, NTL is not the CIA, but if it is being run on a 'need to know' basis then NTL 'need to know' that we 'need to know' what's happening! If you catch my drift!! ;)

Sociable 16-01-2004 13:07

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Originally Posted by ntluser
I think a little honesty and openness would earn NTL a lot more respect. After all, NTL is not the CIA, but if it is being run on a 'need to know' basis then NTL 'need to know' that we 'need to know' what's happening! If you catch my drift!! ;)

Well said !!!

And nicely concise too, unlike my own. :D

slimshady 17-01-2004 19:35

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From what I here it will be a new everything, so I would assume new hardware as well, I believe its going to rationalize ntl's mail systems, as they have quite a few different servers and server platforms kicking around. Sounds good, lets hope it goes well for our sakes as much as ntl's. :D

Paul 17-01-2004 20:43

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Give them a chance - everyone seems to moan about their e-mail and then when they announce plans to fix it, everyone moans again ! Let's at least wait and see the result. :cool:

homealone 17-01-2004 21:07

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Originally Posted by pem
Give them a chance - everyone seems to moan about their e-mail and then when they announce plans to fix it, everyone moans again ! Let's at least wait and see the result. :cool:

That's a good point, I posted a cynical remark at the start of this thread, but if what slimshady says, is correct - and it works, then yes let's wait & see:)

Reddevil63 18-01-2004 03:25

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Originally Posted by pem
Give them a chance - everyone seems to moan about their e-mail and then when they announce plans to fix it, everyone moans again ! Let's at least wait and see the result. :cool:

Ok but how many times are we suppose to give them a chance?...we are paying for a service which never runs smoothly for any length of time.
Yeah, they got plans to fix it.....should have been done ages ago!!

NTL better sort things quick are more people are going to leave.

Shaun 18-01-2004 04:03

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Originally Posted by Reddevil63
NTL better sort things quick are more people are going to leave.

I already have and it's the best decision I ever made, saying that I never used my Ntl e-mail account even when I was with them :erm: (except to register on here).

greencreeper 20-01-2004 18:29

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The current email system is (relatively) simple and NTL can't get it working. They're now buying an all-singing-all-dancing email system with lots of knobs and whistles. Seems likely that we'll end up a great email system that works less often than the current one :) Having read the Openwave blurb I'd agree with the poster(s) who said NTL would use the system to tack adverts onto the bottom of emails - something that's unacceptable when an email account is used for professional purposes.

JediMaster 25-01-2004 11:21

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I am FED up with NTL & the Basic Webmail. 15 (or 10MB) is handy... But I get 30-50 SPAM mail per day. I used Webmail to Trash the Spam, then used Outlook to read. But then I had to empty TRASH every week. (Why cant we have a Empty Trash button??) lol

Now I use MailWasher PRO 3.4 & I love it.

JonNuttNTL 25-01-2004 13:58

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What it needs is for NTL to install it ASAP turn off registration on the old one(s), migrate to the new one then voila maybe an end.

Jon

Whos really fed up seeing timeout errors et al.


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