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danielf 15-01-2004 10:24

Brazilian Visas
 
Brazilian officials were not amused at a US pilot's protest against their recent immigration policies :rofl:

Jerrek 15-01-2004 13:48

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The best part:

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Many in Brazil fear the policy will harm the country's tourism industry.

Authorities in Rio de Janeiro been giving US visitors flowers and T-shirts saying "Rio loves you" - fearing that the security checks will deter Americans from visiting the city.

Marge 15-01-2004 14:38

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:rolleyes: Worlds gone mad, see my sig :rolleyes:

luftys 15-01-2004 20:22

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Originally Posted by danielf
Brazilian officials were not amused at a US pilot's protest against their recent immigration policies :rofl:

So they could had got bird,for giving the bird

Xaccers 15-01-2004 21:21

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Doesn't suprise me.
Once day out in Saudi on the way to the beach or Taif, we had to go past "checkpoint charlie" as we called it (there so that non-muslims didn't accidently head into mecca or medina).
You had to present your passport and igama, no biggie, never had a problem before, but this day there was a tail back because of the american infront.
He was f'ing and blaring about why should he show them his papers, while the police were being as polite as they could (armed with uzi's tho)
In the end, seeing the tail back and having enough with this obnoxious yank, they asked him to pull off the road.
We were up next, so mum made sure we all had our passports and dad's igama.
As they were being checked dad commented that it looked like they had a spot of bother, refering to the yank
"There's always one sir" the guard replied, and with a smile waved us on.
From then on, whenever he saw us, he'd always say hello and see how we were :)

So the moral of this story is, if you need to get through a security check, it's better to be polite and reasonable than obnoxious (just look at that advert on telly at the mo where the guy has all the practical joke stuff, and in the end gets the rubber glove treatment for it!)

dr wadd 15-01-2004 21:28

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
You had to present your passport and igama, no biggie, never had a problem before, but this day there was a tail back because of the american infront.

Isn`t it funny how the American's want to try and make the rest of the world jump through hoops when it comes to security, but kick up a fuss when the same rules are applied to them.

danielf 15-01-2004 21:44

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
He was f'ing and blaring about why should he show them his papers, while the police were being as polite as they could (armed with uzi's tho)

<snip>

So the moral of this story is, if you need to get through a security check, it's better to be polite and reasonable than obnoxious (just look at that advert on telly at the mo where the guy has all the practical joke stuff, and in the end gets the rubber glove treatment for it!)

I am always extremely polite to people carrying Uzis. :rolleyes:

Jerrek 16-01-2004 14:04

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So, if the Brazilian tourism industry suffers losses over the next few months, whose fault is it? lol, I'm going to laugh so hard when Americans, with their credit cards, stop going to Brazil and go to Argentine or Peru instead.

danielf 16-01-2004 14:17

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
So, if the Brazilian tourism industry suffers losses over the next few months, whose fault is it? lol, I'm going to laugh so hard when Americans, with their credit cards, stop going to Brazil and go to Argentine or Peru instead.

But surely the same applies to the US? That's why I named the thread Brazilian Visas. As a follow-up to American visas

What was that thing about Americans and irony again :D

Shaun 16-01-2004 14:57

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Originally Posted by danielf
What was that thing about Americans and irony again :D

But that's just ironic. :LOL: ;)

Jerrek 16-01-2004 18:15

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Originally Posted by danielf
But surely the same applies to the US? That's why I named the thread Brazilian Visas. As a follow-up to American visas

What was that thing about Americans and irony again :D

Oh WOW, so our tourism will go down by 0.000000001%. How many Brazilians do you think have enough money to even afford an airplane ticket, much less visit the U.S. for a vacation?

danielf 16-01-2004 18:34

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Oh WOW, so our tourism will go down by 0.000000001%. How many Brazilians do you think have enough money to even afford an airplane ticket, much less visit the U.S. for a vacation?

I wasn't talking about Brazilians. Europeans may decide to not travel to the US as well. Especially if they need to obtain a costly visa and have to travel to the US consulate/embassy to get a visa.

Jerrek 16-01-2004 18:41

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Originally Posted by danielf
I wasn't talking about Brazilians. Europeans may decide to not travel to the US as well. Especially if they need to obtain a costly visa and have to travel to the US consulate/embassy to get a visa.

Most European countries have always needed visas. Nothing changed.

dr wadd 16-01-2004 18:47

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Oh WOW, so our tourism will go down by 0.000000001%. How many Brazilians do you think have enough money to even afford an airplane ticket, much less visit the U.S. for a vacation?

Making rather sweeping assumptions about a country there, which I've noticed that you seem to do rather a lot if criticising someone else helps support your dubious opinions. According to your incredibly well informed estimate that would mean that no-one in Brazil could afford to come visit the USA. I think that demonstrates that the point you've just made isn`t worth paying attention to.

danielf 16-01-2004 18:48

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Most European countries have always needed visas. Nothing changed.

Most EU countries fall under the Visa waiver program, so, as an EU national you do not need to get a Visa at present.

Jerrek 16-01-2004 19:10

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Then, you do not need to be photographed or fingerprinted. What is the problem?

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that would mean that no-one in Brazil could afford
Fire another neuron or two. It might help. I didn't say, or even imply, no one, rather, I said it won't be significant. Need I teach you your own language too?

danielf 16-01-2004 19:25

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Then, you do not need to be photographed or fingerprinted.

You would if you get a passport after 26 October, and your government is not able to supply passports with biometric data yet.

Shaun 16-01-2004 19:30

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Fire another neuron or two. It might help.

:rolleyes:

dr wadd 16-01-2004 19:35

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Fire another neuron or two. It might help. I didn't say, or even imply, no one, rather, I said it won't be significant. Need I teach you your own language too?

Actually, I think it is you who has to do more thinking, as the implication of your comment of the magnitude of effect on tourism does imply that no-one, or perhaps a single person at most, could afford to visit the USA from Brazil. If we are to accept the percentage you think that Brazilian tourism contributes to the US economy, well, frankly I can`t be bothered, if you are capable do the calculations yourself.

Jerrek 16-01-2004 19:36

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Then we will have to wait and see. I don't see Americans handing out tshirts to Europeans at this time, while the Brazilians are already doing it and it has been only two weeks. I don't think there will be a sharp decline in tourists at all.

Jerrek 16-01-2004 20:23

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Originally Posted by dr wadd
Actually, I think it is you who has to do more thinking, as the implication of your comment of the magnitude of effect on tourism does imply that no-one, or perhaps a single person at most, could afford to visit the USA from Brazil.

No. Clearly, you don't read what I said, or, you interpret it in a way you want to. I already told you what I meant in my last post. That makes one post which you "interpreted" like you see fit, and a second one which I reiterated what I meant which you just chose to ignore. Hence, this is a rather pointless discussion because if after two posts, and now three, you don't get what I say, you never will.

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If we are to accept the percentage you think that Brazilian tourism contributes to the US economy, well, frankly I can`t be bothered, if you are capable do the calculations yourself.
Brazillian tourism is a negligable amount of the entire tourist industry. If not one Brazillian visits the United States in 2004 the impact will be virtually unnoticed. However, compared the other way around, if not one American visits Brazil, the country will be in a world of hurt. Whether you choose to accept what I'm saying or whether you want to continue to separate fly**** from pepper by discussing your own interpretation of what you think I am saying is irrelevant.

dr wadd 16-01-2004 20:30

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Brazillian tourism is a negligable amount of the entire tourist industry. If not one Brazillian visits the United States in 2004 the impact will be virtually unnoticed. However, compared the other way around, if not one American visits Brazil, the country will be in a world of hurt. Whether you choose to accept what I'm saying or whether you want to continue to separate fly**** from pepper by discussing your own interpretation of what you think I am saying is irrelevant.

Why don`t you just put "We're all right, screw everyone else" into your copy buffer and paste it for every reply as that seems to be the only think you can say, and as you've said it over and over with nothing new to contribute I`m now going to have to seriously consider adding you to my ignore list.


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