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I have heard rumours when speaking to tech support and c/s the other day that we are due to have a price increase in the next few months.

They weren't too sure of the details but they seem to think that the 600k and 1MB will be going up by a few quid each. can anyone that works for ntl confirm this?

also the tv package is going to have its annual increase (thanks sky) :rolleyes:

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Haven't heard anything about this.

Only time I've heard this mentioned was someone on the digitalspy forum. The general concensus over there was that any changes would be after the Langley CR3 rollout and probably be in line with Sky's charges. There wasn't any mention of internet price rises.

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well if they do i reckon they will be comitting commercial suicide :(

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I think my sky package went up by 60p (searches for the letter from sky+ about the increase) if i rightly remember it wasnt as much as last years increase.

If the ntl 1meg bb price is going up makes my choice of switching to 2meg adsl for £39.99 a month even better :)

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ntl tend to from previous years experience do price rises around May?!?!

the BB price increase seems logical in as much as these are the only tiers not to of had one!!

i agree Paul it would be stupid but hey what do we know :shrug:

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I suppose a rise is due but I am hardly suprised when it seems two ntl executives, award themselves with bonuses, £28Mill ion to be precise. NTL just love to rub the salt in their customers wounds.

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I'm afraid that any price increase will have me downgrading to 600 or moving elsewhere.

I don't seem to get 1meg for most of the time, its always lagging for some reason, so a price increase will be the final straw. I hardly touch the phone yet pay over £100 each mth. Enough is enough.

(2 stbs, 1meg BB, 2nd phone line oh and film 4 with family pack)

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it would be stupid though , adsl is getting cheaper :eek:

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From someone considering the 1mb service, I'll be running to the hills for ADSL 2mb

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No rumours or truths coming from here. Although, IMO, seeing as broadband is the biggest profit area already and competitor prices are falling, I don't think it would be a good idea.

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I have heard no rumour of a price increase and considering working here, I think I would have, if people outside here have ...

Probably made up again, and then blown out of proportion by somebody like always happens in the forums :/

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If the price went up by anything more than 1p i'll be off to grab me coat and get 2mb adsl for a while :D

sitting on the fence atm because the service is getting pretty poor now, (email, newsservers etc) and if there was a price increase that would be enough to get me moving...

Doubt they would if anything prices should come down. 1mb for £30, 600k for £22 and 150k increased to 256k... that would be nice

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You got to admit though, a price rise is due everything else is going up this year, gas electric etc etc, ntl are porbably thinking, 'I know lets join that bandwagon.' :rolleyes:

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Or maybe the price rises that ntl incur every year have to be balanced out somewhere? :rolleyes:

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Can you justify the pay bonuses the ntl executives got and then NTL decide to increase their charges Orangebird? Because I am finding hard to.

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true how about multi million $$$ or savings from incompetent management etc

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All executives get big fat bonuses, no matter how te company is doing ...

You cant justify any of it really, considering they are allready on an inflated wage for doing nothing except making bad decisions

The people who deserve the bonuses are us lot in the line of fire from the customers. And not all of us at that. But why they should get a ton more money on top of their wage when it could be spent on improving stuff for us, the staff and the customers, I dont know ...

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You don't have to tell me - I work for them.....the employee share scheme was written off when we went into chapter 11, and we haven't had a sniff of them since....your question I feel was a wee bit patronising. :mad:

But ntl do have to absorb price increases themselves. They're trying to be a profit making organisation, not a charity. edit - plus the bonus comes from a good shareprice, not from ntls purse.... :shrug:

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again true not a problem they raise prices we walk cheaper faster sevices and provider hmmm...where's that phone book

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My question was not meant to patronising Orangebird, how could it be? When you know, that I know that you work for them.

I find it very frustrating when bosses award themselves big payouts when they can decide to invest that money, sort their services out and perhaps award their staff that work very hard, i.e you. Still find that patronising?

If ntl the company, want to be a profit making organisation they should not be paying out fat cheques to executives who have not even been at ntl for that long.

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i thought ntl employees were the last to know anyway :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: , sorry mate , as for the inflation price rise , you have still got to look at adsl getting cheaper , cutting of throats springs to mind :(

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ADSL getting cheaper, but no cheaper for the companies to enable your exchange ...

Good luck getting it :)

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I have heard mention of analogue TV services being increased in price shortly but nothing about broadband.

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tv is going up because sky has increased there prices :(

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I guess that cannot be helped really.

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Most of the exchanges are now enabled, *0% of the country live near enough to an enabled exchange, thats ALOT more potential customers than Ntl could ever dream of.

I don't see a problem for any Ntl customer switching, as Ntl mostly cable the inner city's which have excellent exchanges!

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Where did you get your figures from?

Because I still know a heck of a lot of poeple (family etc...) in different parts of the country that cant get BT or other ADSL as their exchange isnt enabled but they can get NTL :)

Im just curious, not trying to argue, but would like to know your sources for my own interests :)

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surely cant , i just wonder how long it will be before ppl start revolting against sky ????????????????

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Sky increase their subscriptions every year, i can not remember a year when there has been no price increase since they launched their digital channels.

I think they would have to be an aweful lot of dissatisfied customers to bring sky to their knees.

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The ADSL prices seem to be going down over 12 months (unless that is my imagination), they seem to either, absorb any inflation, or have a negative inflation as they grow in size.

NTL should, in theory, be able to undercut ADSL's prices, because of their size. A big company has the economy-of-scale to be able to undercut small companies, unless the big company happens to be top-heavy or badly managed. Myself, I think the gap will widen between ntl and ADSL.

The exchanges are being ADSL triggered 'by-the-day'... almost. The number required for the trigger, and the number needed, is in a lot of cases, only requiring 10 more people showing interest, to cause the exchange to be ADSL enabled. Just maybe half a dozen more people registering interest (with no commitment) will do it. So enlighten those that may not be aware of this.

All exchanges are shown here, showing how many more are needed to get your particular exchange enabled.

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/availabi...asp?order=trig

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www.news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3100282.stm ;)

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Thanks, but its a bad link (bad gateway)

I just checked my exchange

Sheesh, I didnt realise they had enabled my exchange

That must have been recently :) (for me) or :( (for my job) lol

Well, looks like they dropped their amount of people required to enable the exchange.

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The ADSL Guide site is a good website to keep ontop of most info with regards to adsl.. its worth a visit :tu:

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ive been looking at ADSL recently its getting very attractive to move providers........

im on the 1mbit service if the price was to increase, then i would have no hesitation to leave for 2mbit ADSL

but for now, its just speculation, so we just have to wait and see.........

corrected link.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3100282.stm

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No I cant get there now either but here's the google search of it, the comments about 80% coverage are repeated in several sites listed there ;)

edit "UK - BT's ADSL coverage reaches 80 percent of UK households "

link

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I just looked into my exchange info again

It says its enabled, but I may live to far away and not be able to have it, so even tho my exchange is enabled (BT as included it in their figures) it doesnt mean I can use their service :/

I wonder how much of this 80% is bloated with the people who cant actually use their 'enabled' exchange?

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Its bollox too.........

With most things the more customers the lower the price.........with fecking Sky the price goes up.......god I hate those *******s.

Crazy thing is they can get away with it, because their monopoly has killed any hope of competition in this joke of a country! There is Cable or Sky 70% of the population cant get cable, so if they want DTV they have to get Sky......with no-one to compete whos gonna stop the putting up prices?? poor old joe public will keep on forking out subscriptions from hard earned wages, along with taxes, taxes, fines and taxes from our mavelous government!!

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The rest of Europe have a nick name for England they call it treasure island because we will pay without kicking up a fuss... we pay more than the rest of europe for the majority of things.

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I have heard whispers that gold cable modem is going up £2
rest is staying the same

playstation/xbox packages dropping down £2

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Don't forget Freeview and whats this about fines? Did you forget to return your library books again melon? :)

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Must admit you have a point there think the BB prices are on the edge of being inelastic. Can not stretch them anymore, the TV SKY are out there with cheap deals. Not forgetting BT,cheaper calls

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just checked and i am only 50% towards getting adsl :(

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I dont have an issue with price increases at the level of cost of living (although this going on and on makes the UK uncompetitive due to staffing costs and work gets outsourced to India, where will it end) However i do disagree with companies that put the price up but dont increase the value of the service. GET IT WORKING NTL THEN SET THE PRICE!!

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No I didnt see the Speed Camera, so now im paying £5 extra on my fine to pay criminals who get bitten by someones dog while trying to burgle their house compensation!! Any Chance I can claim compensation?? I didnt give them permission to take my photo!!!

Also I parked 31cms from the curb and got fined £60!! As well as paying my car tax a day late and being fined £80!!

Sky only really have cheap deals on installation, taking these is generally a mistake anyway in my experience pay for a decent installation is my word of advice!! Other than that is damn well expensive and keeps on going up. When I left Sky the World Package was £34 I think thats less than 2 years ago, and now its £40.... ..........price rises well beyond inflation, what exactly is Skys reason??!!

BT its self isnt necessarily cheaper for calls, depending on you calling patterns it can be very pricey......not forgetting the Standard Plan (£9.50) which calls cost 7.9p a minute for day time national calls!! And Talk Unlimited 24 is also cheaper than the equivilent BT package. It is true their are good deals on a BT line, through different providers.......providing you can get an acceptible line quality in the first place!!

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Sky quite often telephone their customers who are on the lower tier packages and offer them free or reduced price upgrades for a period

There is nothing wrong with the subsidised installs, mine have always been first class. You get good and bad installers with whoever you choose, paid for independents or subsidised installers. Sometimes the subsidised installers are independents who Sky have contracted. The same is true with NTL installers, some are very good and others are horrendously bad.

Maybe Sky prices have risen by more than the rate of inflation but not by as high a rate as my NTL package has increased. What is NTLs excuse for this when the quality of their services has decreased?

You forget to say in your telephony price comparisons that the BT standard plan includes £2.15 of free calls and that evening and weekend local calls are cheaper on this plan than with the NTL 3-2-1 plan. For the user who makes very few calls it is cheaper than anything NTL have to offer.

For those who make more calls then BTs 6p call plan is the same price as NTLs but does not suffer from the NTL 5p connection charge during peak weekday hours. Instead it offers discounts on calls at this time to your friends and family circle.

You also fail to show the comparison with the Talk Unlimited plan which is £1 cheaper with BT than NTL and again has no connection charge with BT during peak weekday hours and has the friends and family discounts.

The only plan where NTL is cheaper is the talk unlimited 24 which is £3.50 cheaper with NTL. Lets face it though, you have to be making a lot of peak weekday calls to geographic numbers to gain from this plan.

All in all, the best plan for most people is the BT Together 6p plan with judicial use of another provider (such as call18866) during peak weekday time and for very short offpeak calls. Not only do you have cheaper calls but also the ability to choose from many ADSL providers (if within the correct distance on an enabled exchange).

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True, bt doesn't suffer the connection call charge of 5p - but it DOES suffer a minimum call charge of 5p if I'm not mistaken? - edit - no, I'm not mistaken, just checked their tariffs.

Just wanted to get ALL the facts in the open, you understand. :)

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Quite true OB, forgot to mention that point but it doesn't detract from the fact that BT are cheaper, but I would far sooner have a minimum 5p charge than an extra 5p charge. That is why I put in the option of using a provider such as call18866 for very short calls as they only have a 1p connection charge and 1p per minute call charge.

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The difference if Ntl charge you 5p ON TOP OF you call charge, BT charge you a minimum of 5p, its a big different over the year.

Again, I advocate using a third party calling company, I use Call18866.co.uk now I'm with BT (1p per min during the day!!!) When I was with Ntl I used One.Tel. They can save you a bomb! :D

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Out if intrest... where does one get 2 meg DSL for £39.99? :)

I have a feeling i'll be there like a shot.

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Absolutely - if you make lots of short calls, you're definitely better off with bt - otherwise it's 6 of one etc....

I just wanted ALL the facts. :)

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bulldog do it for one :)

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I'm on their 2mbit prime-time tariff, 512k during the day and 2Mbit after 6pm and at weekends/bank holidays, it costs £29.99 on offer, but I'm not sure when it ends.

An around excellent product so far, I can recommend them with pride ;)

I also believe Silver-mead do a 2mbit service too :)

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I use 2mb adsl service all the time for £39.99 have a
Read of Post #10 if you have time i have listed 2 adsl isp's that offer 2mb at £39.99 (links are provided)

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I hope you are not trying to say that i just made this up?!?

only time will tell in the end but i have a feeling that what i heard is true :angel:

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So its £29 for 2mb offpeak? and about £10 for the line rental from bt?

and if i get rid of ntl bb and fone i might as well ditch the tv as it costs loads if i dont need the included line rental... its one out all out with ntl.

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An Isp called Bulldog have a 2mb off peak service & the BT standard line rental is around £10 (plus you get a few quids worth of offpeak free calls) have a read in here for all the info you need

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NTL INCREASE THE PRICE OF BROADBAND. 600K GOES UP FROM £24.99 TO......
[Sponsored by Pipex Dial]

Mass exodus would ensue......

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My exchange is only at 27%, and I'm probably too far away to get it :(

But wireless broadband is currently being rolled out to the villages around here, so hopefully I'll escape ntl via that route within a few weks :)

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I am within two miles so I will be o.k.

I am leaving NTL at the end of the month. I think they will increase there prices as they have to pay the MD'S that extra cash :D

Even if they did'nt I would not stay with them. I have had enough of there poor service and poor support.

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I wish it was only ntl: that did this :/

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Something that nobody has yet mentioned is the potential that ADSL has to grow in the future - check out ADSL2 and ADSL2+. I don't see how ntl, with their current infrastructure (or lack of), would be able to compete.

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Cable, theoretically can supply much higher speeds than ADSL can. There would need to be a lot of investment put in, but it can be done.

Cable and ADSL wont be the last of the internet products, something will come along sooner or later that wipes both of them.

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The reason why people are rambling about that wasted millions of pounds is because its needed elsewhere and its a failing company, if it was successful then it wouldn't matter so much.

If it is true that analogue tv (inferior service to digital already overpriced) gets a price rise and the top 2 tiers get a rise then I will cancel.

Ntl need to sort out their quality of service before they start charging more, I have said it before and I will say it again, upgrade ALL areas to digital ntl you are offering a 2 tier service for same price.

Also why only price rise for top 2 tiers, there shouldn't be any at all but only rising price on top 2 tiers is just stupid, this will be commercial suicide like it has been mentioned.

I will also mention if I had sky digi, and if it was anything liek the extra service I had when I was on sky digi I would be ok with the rise, the difference is sky are succesful and their service is of high quality, ntl's isnt.

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Again. I wish it was just ntl that did this.

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they are the only ones during it in the telecommunications sector, BT suspended all payouts while they were in trouble.

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They're definately not the only ones doing it though. The company I worked for just fired somebody because they fscked up a project, lost us lots of money and share price, then gave them a £100,00 0+ "Sorry you did so badly" present.

Yah, good thinking there!

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Ok, Here's what I believe to be happening regarding price rises.....

It would appear that both 1 Meg & 600k ntl broadband will both be going up by £2.00 per month (I'm not 100% certaian on the 600k)

It would also appear that the folks that make these decisions have seen a bit of sense at last, & have chosen not to increase the price of the 150k service.

DTV it also appears will be going up, although we believe how much by has still to be confirmed, as apparently the decision was only made on the 15th of this month.

So-£38.00 1 meg ntl BB anyone? or perhaps I can interest you in £600k BB for the attractive sum of £27 per month?-didn't think so! :D

It will be interesting to see what price they set their DSL package at when/if it launches.

Surely they can see that they are making cable BB much more unattractive when compared to ADSL?

I'll let you know more as soon as I find out.

N.

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Interesting ... thx Neil. :)

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NTL can kiss my business goodbye if they implement such price increases.

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The only thing stopping me going over to Sky is a) the price would be more as I would not get a phone included in my "family pack" and b) the hassle.

If NTL are going ahead with this "against the trend" price increase then they either have their head buried in the sand (do have anyway...) or they feel their customers are so loyal that they will stay. True the hassle factor is a consideration but we already have some of the highest broadband charges around in this country and every month their seems to be a cheaper ADSL. What the heck are they thinking?

I will certainly look at Pipex and Sky+ a little closer. Especially as NTL do not seem to have any idea when their PVR options is coming.

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I am afraid I will be downgrading my BB to the lowest rate or even going back to standard modem - and dail up

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looks like its getting near time to get on the phone to BT and then sort an asdl package out

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This is all you need......

http://65.75.139.49/forum/showthread.php?t=4697

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No-one in their right mind would do this, standard ADSL 512 has 256 up, ntl 600 has only 128 up, it has to be cheaper than the ADSL or there will be a mass exodus. And cable BB is the only thing that keeps many customers to phone and DTV. But when has ntl ever been run by people who think straight!

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I should think that they shouldn't increase the 150k service as they fecking well put it up last spring.It was the only increase that they made in BB too.Insert indignant smiley here. :mad:

Incog. :(

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You have to remember at the end of the day NTL are a business & there are no prizes for NTL if they are kind to customers, if & when NTL increase their prices & customers react by leaving then NTL's Marketing Department will probably have to have a re-think.(unless they have taken into account that some customers will leave) & are calculating that the new customers will fill in the spaces left.

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Price rises are never good (unless its you that are charging :) ). I notice tiscali want £25pcm for 500kbps & bt want a socking £30pcm for 512kbps. Maybe NTL are heading for the middle ground on pricing.

/edit Pipex appear to want £23.44p cm, for 500kbps. I suppose NTL's mid-range offering is 20% faster, so it's not really a fair comparison. I wonder if Pipex's email works (Silly question - i still have a dial-up account with pipex which works fine)

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I can confirm that it does!

I have not had an issue with my Pipex connection since I got it in November. :angel: :D

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Sorry to correct you but NTL is slower upstream, if you are a gamer ADSL is the cheapest option also if you have a website ADSL is better.

To get rates for upload similar to ADSL you have to have the 1 meg package

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We are talking NTL here they are not known for there rational thinking now are they

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You have a website and your on NTL, strange how you keep advising people to use ADSL but don't take your own advice :confused:

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For your ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£ÃƒÆ ’‚£ each month what do you need from your isp?
Good Service
Good Reliability
Good Speed
Good Price
Satisfaction

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Good Service 8/10
Good Reliability 7/10
Good Speed 9/10
Good Price 8/10
Satisfaction 9/10

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I think I'll be trying Central POINT's 2meg £35.49

3mth min contract and static IP.

http://www.cpbb.co.uk/

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Centralpoint is very cheap. No mail or newsgroups though.

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As long as ntl have at least, new (unaware) customers, balancing out the disgruntled leavers, ntl will not care much.

With sites such as this one, enlightening the unwary, the balance of the churn rate can shift as leavers increase, encouraging ntl to a more competitive and even better service.

Voicing how much better, alternative services are, will help in that respect (better service, competition), as will customers actually going to those alternative services.

As for the 150k £17.99 price going up, when for £18.99 you can get 500k, (modem £42, BT line), well the ntl 150k is already way-way over priced.

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What does that make the dial up services that cost £14.99 and 15.99 then? :eek:

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how reliable is BT's phone service these days?As I've said before I got fed up with their phone service which is why I went to what was Nynex then.


Incog.

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that reminds me good old nynex and cwc

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A rip-off, when you can now get ADSL for £14.99, 150k (I think, main towns so far). !

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NTL due to price increase, and what for when you get conection interupt slow web brouseing slow email or none, i spend more money on customer suport so i should get my net free i payed by my phone bill in complaints, i when to a freinds house and his 56k was faster then mine i pay £24.99 and he pays £5 one day they had problems and cut me off for 3 days and sais they have to come to my house to diff up the routors to repair them befor they turn my net on rofl this is why i paid over top for NTL so if price rise then i will go else were:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

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http://www.cpbb.co.uk/

Line Activation £29.99 (one off charge) SpeedPrice per month
256k £19.49
512k£22 .491
1Meg£26 .992
2Meg£35 .49
can any one give any info on this and if its any good

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Some CSAs did not even get a rise last time round and some did

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if this is true, I'm off to bulldog!

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Well . . . . . its all about serviced for me ( ie getting value for money !)

The problems for the NTL Board as *THEY*contemplate a price hike are manyfold eg :-

1. Lack of TV channels on NTL Digital (where is VH2 for instance? missing 40 channels or so )

2. Lack of extra channels eg the free foreign ones - (BBC World Service and the German Spanish and Italian free to air satellite services)

3. Lack of any Enhanced Digital Service ( Sky_Direct customers get loads of extra stuff on Sky_News & Sky_Sports even though the signal has to travel 44,000KM in the ether ? ? ?

4. Lack of Broadband Capacity ( evidenced by threats to 'Cap' users who actually want to USE the whole service they pay for)

5. Lack of warm body response customer service - when We want the service it's Shut - when it does come ON it's too busy to take your call for 10 + mins (caused by being shut when customers want to seek help)

6. etc etc etc etc etc

Ramjet

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if ntl increase the 150k service or increase the dtv base pack price, then i will cancel my tv service, broadband and telephone and get bt phone, tiscali 150 bb and freeview - unless ntl offer something good when i call to cancel (like free tv for 6 months or half-price family pack, then i may consider staying!!)

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This may sound strange but if they do increase their prices then you can cancle even if you are in the 12 month contract.

jsatan

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that's right - it's written into the contract that if prices are increased you can cancel within a month.

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Finger crossed,
jsatan