Analogue channels over cable line
 

I have a setup where my cable line is split into 2 bits (one part into the digibox and the other into my TV RF socket).

When tuning I get the 5 terrestrial channels clearly, aswell the ever useful QVC. I can also make out other channels but the pictures are obscured with some kind of wavey thing going on. The sounds comes through. These channels are Sky One, ITV2, UK Gold (I think) among others.

Is there any way of getting them clearly at all?

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With newer TV's that do a frequency search rather that a UHF search, you can pick up Sky one and ITV2, although UKgold is still scrambled.

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naughty naughty!!! hehe! i'm saying nothing!!!

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It's a shame that NTL can't at least put the free-to-air channels down the analogue bypass

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You can pick up a few of the channels, but the ones that are fuzzy will stay fuzzy I'm afraid as that is the encoding on encrypted channels :)

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im trying to do this, but all the channels seem to be fuzzy. im using an avermedia tv tuner card connected to a splitter (only pay for broadband) and all i want is the 5 channels with clear reception. ive tried removing splitter and plugging just the tv cable to the isolator ntl gives you, but i still get same crap quality.

ive tried other tuning progs like christv, same result. however im just using autoscan, should i be manually tuning?

please help, thanks

ps. attached is an example of the best reception im getting, most channels are garbled. the audio, however, seems to be very good on most channels...

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Hi,

Just of interest, when I try this (Pace 200 in Ex CWC area) all I can receive is channel 4, but perfect - nothing else can be found.. Is this an ex-CWC feature!

Gary

well i solved the problem - the cable itself was crap. trying my m8s it worked perfectly and im getting various channels with almost perfect quality.

btw, you dont connect to tv via your modem! its just a direct connection to the aerial socket, and if you have the cable with a satellite plug instead of an aerial plug on the end...

ANAND INTERNATIONAL (and other shops im sure) sells the little plug to put on the end of ur cable so it fits in ur telly.

see you

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dont shout too loud , you are getting something for nothing :erm: :D :D :D

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Here, we use it for getting BBC1, BBC2, ITV1, Channel 4, five, Sony TV Asia, UKTV Documentary, and scrambled (with no audio), we can get CNN (totally unwatchable).

But our TVs only tune UHF - I'm sure with VHF, we could get more! Can anybody else get more with VHF (preferably Sky One!!)?

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I get VH1 here in the clear on VHF.

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Caould someone post apic of the parts you need for this ?
Would be great.

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I think all you need is a TV with a VHF tuner - basically, an old one, or a specialist one, I think.

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A return path filter on the cable you are illegally splitting would be nice by the way to stop your TVs chucking garbage back onto the cable network.

Also don't hold ya breath enjoying this stuff too much, analogue's days are numbered bwahaha.

*Hates analogue it plays havoc with the digital signals: http://www.scte.org/chapters/newengl...e/CPD/cpd2.htm

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It's certainly not illegal just to recieve channels 1-5 - whether or not it causes return path problems is another matter, but it's that users SACM that'll suffer most.

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Ah, but it is against the terms and conditions for a user to make any modifications to the cable:

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What about if you make or buy your own cable and just replace the one from the iosolater ;)

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thats the point you are modifying their cables , increase it in length too much or introduce noise through bad connections then you are going to cause problems :disturbd:

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How much longer will analogue be around? Any timescale, I would think it would be a good few years at least?

Some areas cant even get digital yet.

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Some areas will never get digital! Parts of Scotland are out of reach of satellite and digital terrestrial - and clearly not in reach of cable.

But that's not many people. 98% of the country is covered by Digital Satellite (with a 60 or 80cm dish) and 75% of the country is covered by Digital Terrestrial, which is ever increasing and will increase further when analogue is turned off.

It's not so much of a worry - most people will be able to get DTT and nearly everybody can already get Digital Satellite.

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P.S. This government hope to turn off analogue by 2012. But they won't be here by then, will they.

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I was informed by NTL that they will be turning their Analogue signal off in 2010. I dread the day!! :(

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Huh, I'll be working by then! That's ages away. I wouldn't get too worried.

Any specific date - I think the 24th December would be a good one...! LOL

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...as is everyone, not just ntl.

http://www.digitv.org.uk/how_to_guid...switch_off.asp

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Well that's a lie! The government say 'by 2012', not 2010. Anyway, it's totally impossible for them to start the switchoff in 2006 as they need to give two years notice. The very earliest they could start is December 2006, assuming they make an announcement that they'll do this in the next couple of weeks.

Anyway, Labour won't do bu**er all until after the General Election - assuming they get re-elected (only if we're a nation of idiots).

If Labour do get back in - then Holy Sh*t will come.

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Well, Bush was re-elected..............and I really, REALLY didn't think that would happen.

Anyway, my guess would be that before NTL or telewest switch all analogue areas off, they would have upgraded analogue areas to digital before. (except MATV areas)(not sure what they would do here)(incidently, do telewest have MATV/communial aerial areas??????)


EDIT: With regard to the first post, my dad had half the NTL analogue channels through his normal TV (nothing special about his TV) it appears that if your TV has a sensitive enough tuner, then it can lock on. He had Bravo, Sci-fi and others without an STB.

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As somebody asked in a previous thread, could somebody post a little piccy, or a description of how this is achieved...

I take it you just introduce another 2 way splitter into the cable that is currently going into your decoder, then continue 1 cable to the decoder, and divert the other new cable into your tv.. ? is that as simple as it is ? do you need any special equipment that you can't buy from Maplins... as far as I can see it sells all I would need for about £10.... .

Any help would be appreciated

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hi namgaws - :welcome: to Cable Forum.

trouble is that this is against the terms & conditions of using the service - and although several people have done it, with no problem, done badly it can affect the connection for everyone else in your area.

For the above reasons I'm sure this site won't condone posting instructions on how to do it, in the forum, but the principle is as you describe :)

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I have a pace PACE DI4001NC digi box. Now I can tune the tv into the box while it's turned on and I get a really good picture. But I was expecting the standard 5 channels to be just as good while the box is turned off. Am I doing something wrong or does the box not rebroadcast these channels?

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The STB can only decode one channel at a time. When it is switched on, this is what it outputs to the RF output. On SOME boxes it is possible to also receive the analogue channels that are also sent down the cable. Usually, channels 1-5 plus a few others are available unencrypted.

Check your box against this table:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/altisuk/temp/stb.xls
The feature you need for this is called 'internal bypass'.

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The newer boxes don't have pass thru .... you'll probbly have to add a splitter to the cable before it hits the STB, that way the analogue channels would be available.

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Thanks for that :)

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Done properly, however, it can work a treat.