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when you feel down and out have nothing to live for and might as well 'top yourself' ?

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Umm... go to bed?

You are probably damn tired mate ;)

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i am going to but cant sleep

no

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read the bible? (WARNING! - Genisis reads like Tolkien, but it does have incest and offering of daughters for sex, so it is a bit racey)

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This is the worst time of year to be feeling down and alone and feel that you are running out of options.

Short answer is find someone, anyone and talk to them.

If you are not sure how feel free to PM me and I will send my number so you always have at least one person you will know is available at the other end of the phone OK

Also have a read of this and take a copy and print it out so you can re-read next time you feel this way.

DESIDERATA

Go placidly amid the noise and haste and remember what peace there may be in silence. As far as possible without surrender be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull & ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons, they are vexatious to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others, you may become bitter or vain, for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans. Keep interested in your own career, however humble; it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs; for the world is full of trickery. But let this not blind you to what virtue there is; many persons strive for high ideals; and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially, do not feign affection. Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment it is perennial as the grass

Take kindly the counsel of the years, gracefully surrendering the things of youth. Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune. But do not distress yourself with imaginings. Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.

Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself. You are a child of the universe, no less than the trees and the stars; you have a right to be here. And whether or not it is clear to you, no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.

Therefore be at peace with God, whatever you conceive him to be, and whatever your labours and aspirations, in the noisy confusion of life keep peace with your soul. With all it's sham drudgery and broken dreams it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful, Strive to be happy.
(MAX EHRMANN)

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Avril not replied then?? (j/K)

Seriously, why are you so down?

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believe me i have been there there are ways out if you look for then pm me if you want to talk -------- serious offer --------- paul :)

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its been ongoing for the past few months ive tried to occupy myself to keep my self happy but no help at all

i even tried doing it last night but something stopped me maybe concience or my vow never to do it im shaking as i type this

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kronie huni, :ghugs: you have my number if you EVER need to talk i'm at the end of the phone....

i know what it is like to feel alone and depressed, it isn't a nice feeling, but admitting it is kind of the first step along the road.... you have friends mate, get together with simon or something... i really feel for you hun

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Kronas there are times when everything seems to go wrong and nothing you can do seems to help. Its hard but always remember there is nothing in this world that is worth the loss of your life. Its always better if you share you fears, worries or feelings. You have many friends on here and in real life let them help if you prefer your real life friends not to know what is going through your mind now talk to one on here who can help. We all feel for you when things are down sleep is hard for loads of people when they have stress, or loss but it does get better. http://www.forum.nthellworld.co.uk/i...s/grouphug.gif

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huni, just a thought, when i am feeling depressed, i generally push people away, sometimes you think this will help but it means you end up getting swallowed up in your negative feelings even more...over the last few weeks i have found the best medicine to any negative feelings is to talk to someone, find someone you are comfortable with and have a good old whinge....also the best medicine is laughter, i know it sounds like a cliche, but honestly it does help...a friend of mine is fantastic and gauging my mood and knows when i am feeling down and he always makes me laugh.... i generally come away thinking life isn't as bad as i first thought

<light hearted response> if you can't sleep get hold of a philosophy book, it is guarenteed to make you fall asleep in five minutes..... i used to read it to my nephew and low and behold he would always fall asleep :rofl: <end light heartedness>

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Just to add to the excellant advice from Kitty and Bexy think back to one of my comments in the avril thread about making sure you don't let your dreams get in the way of the real people that are all around you and will always be happy to help when you need a shoulder to lean on.

You need to learn to take the risk of trusting real people even though I know that is scary for you right now it is the answer trust me.

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Just think, "I'm here, so I might as well carry on and see what happens."

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Hi Kronas

I just wanted to add my 'voice' to the expessions of support from the nice folks on this forum.

It's hard when you think you are at rock bottom and can't see any way forward, but sometimes you can gain new strength & sense of purpose, from the perspective it gives you. Try to think of some of the things that you are good at, like computers, and the things that give you pleasure, like your music & friends/family.

One thing I have to say, is that I have experienced a dear friend 'topping himself' - he left behind a lot of hurt and angry people. Selfish I know, but I still havn't really forgiven him, - and I don't want to feel the same way about you! So keep listening to that conscience!

I'm glad you are able to talk about it and I, as well as the others here who have expressed their support, will help you out any way we can. :ghugs:

Gaz

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well said that man :tu:

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Kronie, Talk to someone either a member of the family, a friend or your doctor, if u are feeling this down u really need to talk to someone in your home area. If u keep it to yourself it will only get worst Good luck mate :luv: :)

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Kronas, I have been in that situation. I think I told you some time ago about it (either you or kink, can't remember which). One thing I did realise is that if I had talked to someone about the problem, I would not have been in that situation.

Badly timed jokes (you know what I am referring to) apart, as with the others, PM/Messenger me and we can talk..

Edit: And remember, if you let the b*st*rds get you down, they are winning..

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Kronie, lots of us have been there, thought that life was a load of crap & have probably felt like ending it all at some point or another, but that is not the answer. The answer is to talk to people & let them help u through your problems.

PLEASE talk to someone :)

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I have to say Kronas it will not seem such a big problem when you talk things over with friends. Nothing is as important as a life and should never be given up easily.

Everyone that has ever felt so low will tell you its best to talk and we are worried for you now Kronas. Please let us help and talk to one of us.

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first of all im sorry for not replying sooner, i have been trying to keep myself busy i have been around freinds and family and they knew something was wrong straightaway, as my mood was not the same........

i am also sorry to those who have had to put up with this on the forum, especially the freinds i have on here and the mod team, i know this is not a 'support' forum for this but i really cant talk to anyone that i know as in close freinds and my family, if you all understand, i am afraid they may laugh at me

i was very nearly ready to stab myself last night, i had the urge to do it i was going to leave my room and do it but my conscience stopped me, i made a vow along time ago to never kill my ownself, i even thought about what it would do to my freinds especially my family if i did it........

im not going to go in to it too much, as i said i dont think this is the right place and im sure many would rather discuss more important issues, as to what the forum is here for

but one thing i will say a person can only take so many knocks in life, being an underachiever due to ones health ruining the chance, not being able to get a job because no one is willing to take you on, being accused of lieing about your health threatened about being locked up because your starving yourself on purpose which is false, having 0 prospects in life absolutely nothing to live for

i feel trapped i feel i need to getaway do something but i dont know.......

i know this post may look like im selfcentered, and i only think about myself but im not, if i did not care about my family freinds i would have killed myself by now, all i want to do is get some stabilty in my life, thats one thing i have never got, sure i made freinds but im talking about going out there and doing something for myself get a job, start earning helping my family with the bills, giving money to the poor, doing good deeds for people who deserve it

i dont ask for much i just ask for peace not just for me but for everyone

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There is nothing self centered about posting this stuff here mate. It takes alot of guts to do it and you must be hurting to actually type it here. Whatever anyone has said in the past on these forums about daft arguments is just not important. Whats important is you are okay.

The last thing you probably want is advice, but I'll try and give you some. People telling you to just pull yourself together and snap out of it are the worst bits of advice anyone could give.

Has it got worse over the last few months ? Loads of people suffer from SAD (seasonal affective disorder) and it really has the capacity to get you down in the winter, especially if you spend alot of time indoors and have a tendancy to sleep late and go to bed late.

You might think this is stupid but whenever we feel down its not just to do with whats happening in our lives but to do with the chemicals in our brain. If you are feeling down its important to do what you can to get the chemicals which make you happy into your brain. Best way to do it is to get exercise and also, if you've definately found it worse over winter, see if you can get a SAD lamp. They blast you with high intensity light which helps give you what you need to get a balance. Avoid alcohol, caffine, chocolate, try and not sleep to much. Cos its always hard to fall asleep but easy to sleep late the next day.

There is no shame in popping to the doctors. Everyone goes through things like this at some point and the smart ones visit the doctor.

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i dont think i have SAD its happend before once i quicky snapped out of it but its been a tough few months trying to keep a straight face aswell as attitude being happy but when you really try and try to do somethings and consistantly fail or not achieve what you hoped for it gets me down

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As someone suggested, go and see a/your doctor and get professional advice.

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due to the previous histroy i have with doctors im not going to do that

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Good to see youââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re still about Kronas.

You have got the right idea being around family and friends when you are feeling low.

If your feeling that low and your friends and family may laugh at you then to me they are not true friends and family else they would have offered support and comfort.

Myself I am not going to pretend to know a lot about yourself or your circumstances but always try and remember the positives.

Obviously you live in a reasonable environment and have as you said your own room and you have access to a PC to be able to post here, trust me there are people in far worse situations.

To me from reading your threads you post in here in general for a 17 year old (if the age is right in your profile) you seem to have a very balanced and mature way of thinking for someone of your age and will achieve success and your goals ultimately.

Try and ignore the people that slate you and put you down and concentrate on achieving your goals and focus on the satisfaction and sense of achievement you will get when someone gives that job or career you want.

Your post does not sound self centered at all but more of a cry for help which many have given here but do seek out some professional help via your GP or similar.

Again I make no attempt to imagine what you must be feeling and going through but from a personal perspective once felt in the same frame of mind after losing my mother when i was a teenager and then having to care and nurse my father through a deteriorating terminal illness and then endure 3 miscarriages with my girlfriend.

As I said earlier look for the positives as I have done, I am now successful in my career along with partner, we now own our house and we are confident we will soon become parents.

I have been kicked so many times when I am down but have got up and battle on and you need to do the same as from my own experiences I can state that things do get better.

As I have I done, draw from the experiences of others and you will get to where you want to be in the end.

To reiterate what others and what I have said though, you need to seek some professional help and guidance.

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Yes that's sensible, avoid seeing the one person that might help ...

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Kronas to help you achieve try lowering your targets so each day you only have a low target to achieve this will help you as you then reach your target. We use these methods in education to help the low achievers it does work.

If you need to talk and can't talk to family or real life friends there are professional people you can talk to trained councilors who talk to you in confidence and cannot pass whatâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s said to anyone else with out your consent.

Someone on here can listen to you and some times that helps also try working in the community as a volunteer for a while this helps you to move on into paid work I know its not the same as being paid but its a step into working, like a lower target to reach. If you like music perhaps if you try a local hospital and see if they have a hospital radio where you can spend some hours entertaining patients.

Sit and write down things you like to do and see if any fall into areas where volunteers are accepted keep dates started as when you apply for work volunteer work is accepted as work experience.

Good Luck Kronas you have many friends here who are willing to help in any way you will allow them. Take care and good luck.

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Check your PM's Kronas and give me a call anytime OK.

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Kronas, I agree you need professional help. Someone you can talk to without being afraid they will laugh at you. The state you are in is not a good state to be in for a long time. I understand from another thread that Sociable deals with people that have gone through a rough patch professionally. Give him a call will you?

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Sociable & Danielf are right,. U need to talk to someone & soon. If u donââ‚Âà ‚¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢t think u can go u your doctor, is there another adult u can talk to like a member of your family (maybe not your parents, another family member) or a close friend.?? Sociable can & will help u so please RING HIM

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I think that is the best thing to do mate. If you don't get on with your Doctor then you are entitled to change your doctor and see someone else. Anyone can do this at anytime and it is your right.

I do strongly suggest you go and see a GP for some advice and they will tell you what your other options are. There are also support telephone lines if you prefer to speak to someone over the phone, such as Samaritans.

Whatever you decide to do, bear this in mind. You are very young and you have your whole life ahead of you. If you can hang in there at the moment then I give you my word you will look back on this time and smile about it. Feel free to PM me or e-mail at keyser at nthellworld.co.uk any time.

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kronie, i think we have shown here and in pm that people here care about you a lot.... i would recommend, as keyser. says maybe talking to the samaratians, they are trained and they are good.... or call sociable, he is a fantastic guy and a great listener....

just remember that you may feel like your at rock bottom, but you can get better...i think every person on this site would admit to having hit rock bottom at one time or another, for various reasons (some more times than others) but we all got out of it, and you will too
:ghugs:

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there has been some really good suggestions put forward for you kronas , grab at least one of them by the throat and give it a go , sod it i will even let you verbally abuse me if it makes you feel better :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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:eek: are we seeing the caring side of paul here? :erm: see kronie that is self sacrifice for you ;):p

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hey i do have a caring cuddly side you know :mad: , its just that i dont mind being verbally abused if it is going to help , it might sound weird but having a bloody good rant at someone helps sometimes as long as the person you are ranting at doesnt mind , otherwise it usually ends in a bloody nose or two :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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i know you do paul, your a big cuddly bear really :kiss:

and actually yes it does help to have a rant, i have my rant buddy, who i rant at frequently......poor lad prolly has ear infection after an hour on the phone to me, but then again he always phones back :erm: glutton for punishment obviously :p

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or tinnitus :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


only joking :wavey: :luv:

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prolly...but then he calls back, so i can't be that bad...and sometimes i do let him get a word in edge ways.....:p

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haway kronas where are you i fancy a good earbashing if you are up for it :tu:


or another idea , do you play any online games ????????????? , if you do then let me know and we can trade virtual punches or bullet wounds if you want :naughty: :) :) :)

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kronie you have to come back soon, i am missing all the threads you start..the forum is so quiet without you :(

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first of all i would like to say a big thank you to everyone who has commented on my problem and the advice you have given its shown me that people on here are caring.........

and also a big thanks to those who have sent me pm's and messages on MSN unfortunately i have no credit on my phone so i cant ring anyone at the moment im not a talkative mood anyway

i understand that i need to talk to someone and i have thought about the suggestions such as the samaritans etc but im a little uneasy at doing such things as im not a person who likes to open up infront of people i simply dont know it goes the same for people i know im just shy and dont want to impose on people i know some are there to help but its been slightly embarssing for me even to type on here

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for christs sake people are offering you help , i have even offered to let you abuse me verbally , why dont you try someone out , the fiist step is the biggest , just bloody talk to someone will you :D :D :D

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paul be nice, or you will get a slap.....kronie has been offered help and it is for him to decide if/when he takes that help..... if he feels pushed into it at all, he will retreat back into his shell, which is not what anyone wants

so :p

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No problem Kronas and don't worry about the cost let my number ring three times and then ring off and I will know to call back and that goes for middle of the night too. OK

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ok bex :bigcry: , i feel slapped silly now , i might just go away and cry :(

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Nice to know we are appreciated.. :)
Seriously, I think there are a lot of people on here who care about you Kronie.. You are a good person to be on the forum.

You have taken the first step by admitting you are having problems on here. I can understand you feeling embarassed about talking about something so personal, but, remember that the samaritans are totally anonymous, so no one will know who you are, and they may be able to help.

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Hi Kronas sorry that you have some probs :cry: you know we all get them from time to time,and it does help to talk,I have missed your posting :cry: I am new to this site but you can even PM me if it will help
Most things can be worked out you just need to trust someone,its dark at the bottom but they is a light at the top,you need someone to hold the rope so you can climb out,trust me on that I have been they and its ****

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very poetic lufty....and wonderful of you to offer your support......:D and yes we have all hit rock bottom, but there is always someone around to help you out.....

one thing that has struck me from reading these posts on this thread is the real sense of community that this site has, one of our members, and a much loved member, is having problems and everyone has come out in force to help him...i think it is wonderful :D :ghugs:

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Kronas,

We haven't always seen eye to eye on everything (Kate Bush still better LOL), however I strongly suggest you talk to someone, either from here, samaritans, or a new GP. You have people on here who do care, myself included, please continue to talk to us.

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I have felt that way a few times, especially over the last 2 weeks.

I find that revenge always occupies me and makes me feel better!

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Hey !! What's wrong with being an 'underachiever' ?? :eek: Just join the other 90% of us who feel the same !! Except in my case I am an underachiever !

Several years ago my wife divorced me and as I don't get along with my own family and all the friends we had were hers, I found myself totally alone in the world. I felt I didn't have much to live for.....but I thought "Why should I give up without a fight and let them 'win'. No way JosÃÃâ€*’© !!"

What did I do ?? First off, a good cry, put on my favourite sloppy record and get into a really self pitying, sad mood and let it all out !! Sounds weird doesn't it ? But you know when the music stops and you come around the only way is up. I took myself to the pub or my local club and hung around until someone I 'sort of knew' turned up. Took a few weeks but I soon found someone to talk to and they knew other people and so it went on. Pretty soon I was going out with a whole new bunch of folks having a great time and eventually found myself a new partner !

I'm still an underachiever, living in one of the most affluent areas in the country (South Manchester) seeing all the millionaires in their Porsche Cayennes and mega mansions is hard, especially when I can't really afford everything my kids want, but hey we all do our best and I know they love me for all that.

To see my little 8 year old look up from her bed, give me a big hug and whisper "Love you dad" is the best feeling in the world ! If you carry on the way you are talking you may never get that and that would be criminal !

Talk to people by all means, but the real solution is to get out and make a new life. I don't know your circumstances, but write down all the places you could perhaps go to meet new people..pub, social club, sports club or even join somewhere like that...maybe others here can make suggestions, maybe some here local to you and of your age group could meet up ??

I think you may be an Avril Lavigne fan ?? :p :p Surely there are fan sites with message boards where you can chat and arrange to meet a group of like minded people ?? The possibilities are only bounded by your imagination. :spin: Get up and go for it ! :smokin:

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wtf is going on now :confused: , not sure i like it though :(

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Can't see that being of any help, just makes you look like a ******.

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Surely what Kronas needs is support through this, not people just attacking and having a go. There may be things that he needs to face as an individual, but a post like that can just push people over the edge .... bad taste

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dunno - it does sound like 'Bug Infestation' knows 'Kronas' quite well & sometimes a 'kick up the bum' can work in cases of low self esteem?:shrug:

I wouldn't be happy if there was any malicious intent, though. :( , but for now will give the benefit of the doubt this was a well meant attempt to 'snap him out of it'?

Gaz

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Although making people face up to their problems (and causes) is one way to stop a suicide, Bug Infestation, could you not have done it in PM? Was there a reason to air kronas' personal problems in public? I know he did, but that is his choice to make. It is not yours.

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Well intercepted, DP

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Personally I think he was on the right track, tea and sympathy are all very well but they won't solve anything.

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Maybe he was.

I still think he should have done it in PM rather than on the forum though.

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Agreed, but anyone who has contemplated suicide needs to get proper counselling and support from their friends. Note that no one else has taken this 'attacking' perspective.

This kind of thing can really backfire.

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i dont think it was a kick up the bum post somehow :(

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Hard to say, Paul, I think I agree with Stu it would have been more appropriate in a PM.

Gaz

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Bug Infestation: If you post like that again you're gone form this forum okay.

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well that kinda covers it i reckon :tu:

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No matter what people say giving someone who is depressed a 'kick up the bum' to try and 'snap him out of it' is the worst thing you can do ever.

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That is quite right. Been there, done that, and got the t-shirt.

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Check out 'Bug's' previous posts (there aren't many)....he doesn't exactly come over as a 'caring' type IMO !! :shrug:

In any event a quick insight by Bug wouldn't go amiss into just how well he knows Kronas and on what basis he made his post. :rolleyes:

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Worked for me, why shouldn't it for others? I'm beginning to wonder if Bug Infestation is my mother because that's exactly what she sounds like at times and to be frank, I thank her for that, mollycoddling me would have done absolutely no good whatsoever and I'd have probably wallowed in self pity for even longer. But anyway, different people deal with 'depression' in different way's and I'd be quite surprised if there was anyone on this forum medically qualified to treat his symptoms .. having said that though, I do agree that it should have kept to a PM but then I also think that this thread shouldn't have been aired publically either, I'm sure he's been here long enough to realise who he can and can't send a private message to get advice over this.

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sometimes it is best to deal with thoughts along the lines of

a)Is it fair?

b)Is it hepfull?

c)Is it true?

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i just felt it was time for taz to hear a proper solution to his problem. what he needs to hear is the truth, not people pussy footing around it.

i find it funny that some users, (not you scastle, not the mods either) can't accept a harsh response, or the truth though

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dont you think you were just a tiny bit over the top though :(

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sorry - I didn't mean I was condoning that approach, just questioning whether the intent of the post was as malicious as it appeared at face value? A mistake, but with good intentions, as it where?

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i see kronas just about every day and he is one of my best friends

there's a "small insight" for you :)

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It's not the harsh response that the more mature members are aghast at (I don't think), it's probably the sharing of his personal history.

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it's kinda the way i am paul

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bifta, kronas failed to tell the entire story on certain things. it's not best to make a judgement on his history without that don't you think?

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I understood where you were coming from Homealone, wasn't really referring to anyone here when I said "no matter what anyone says" just being general really.

If you know him Bug perhaps the best plan is to say these things to him in person. I guess you have good motives though if he is your friend. All I'll say is when you are in a depressed state of mind, reason isn't the thing that comes to mind most easily. You need people to be supportive really and cognizant of the frame of mind you are in and that you might not be viewing things as you would if you weren't depressed.

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funny you should say that , i had kinda guessed :) , i suppose it is upto kronas or whatever you are calling him to come out with the truth if he wants to

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Fair enough, personally your post didn't bother me but you'll have a hard time convincing others.

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Absolutly correct !!!

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nor. me and other people have tried to sort these problems out in person. taz is incredibly unwilling to open up to us.

airing out my thoughts here were originally(in big capital letters :)) my only way to prevent him from failing to hear what i had to say

paul, i feel if he is to open up to you guys, he really ought to tell you everything about the situation. not just the details so he can get the answer he wants

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Wow :eek: glad your not his enemy !!!!! :rolleyes:

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sociable, i disagree. i do see where you are coming from, but i feel an honest approcah is better than "mollycoddling" him

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that made me laugh basa

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Sorry but this explains a lot.

And yes some of us are "qualified" to offer help so please do not make assumtions about us.

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sorry sociable

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should be fun when bexy pop's in later :disturbd:

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that's a shame. i start work at 7 too

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So how long did you spend at medical school?

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wtf ??????????????????????

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I'm sure he can answer for himself (with something a little more sensible)

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fair play but please dont start ;)

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Degrees in Psychology and Social Work and a lifetime of experience in the real world. Plus a lifetime full of all the ups and downs that give some of us a better insight into the pain others may suffer.

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always wondered about your nickname :D , so it would seem to me at least that you are well qualified in this sort of thing :tu:

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Does psychology qualify you to treat depression? I thought that came under mental health nursing and psychiatry/psychotherapy (sp?). In the end though if he is suffering from clinical depression, what can you do? Tell him to go and see a doctor, no amount of talking is going to do him any good unless the medical symptoms are treated

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Why you gotta act like a ****** Bifta when someone is trying to help ?

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That's a little childish just because my idea of help doesn't fit in with yours.

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exactly what i was thinking bifta.
nor's only contribution in the last hour has been overuse of the term ******.

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Okay can we refrain from making personal comments in this thread its not helping anyone let alone Kronas.