Mac vs PC
 

Discuss... ;)

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Neither!

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Definitely the PC. Although, Mac are more stylish and safer....

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Agreed... used to be mac all the way but not any more... to expensive and over-rated imho...

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There's a lot to be said for the Mac for home users, I mean the people who just want to use the computer and not fiddle/upgrade/mod the thing to the nth degree. At the moment there are no virus on the Mac and the OS is more user friendly. I of course (along with most on here I guess) am an inveterate fiddler, so I've got a PC. :-)

DW

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I've never used a Mac so I can't really comment. I'd love to be able to use one though, I think they look pretty cool.

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Oh joy, A Mac Vs Pc thread.

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It's just a shame that guy could only publish a load of uninformed tripe..

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its all what you prefer yourself, ease of having games or the ease to have a stable OS.

I like MACS and I like PC's, but I still prefer the use of a PC as yes for gaming its easier to find the games.

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OK.. Lets Discuss this

First, the two mouse buttons thing: Well, Mac OSX has *always* had the same level of support of Mice as windows. It has always support two or three button mouse. Hey, it even uses scrollwheels.

Second: Updates. As with XP, Minor updates are free, Major updates aren't. The main updates in SP2 were all security updates. Mac OSX is more secure than XP anyway.

Finally: Women. I've met some very nice looking women who use Macs almost exclusively.

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LOL quite agree with you there, have used 5 and 7 button mice with Mac and no problems, if games werent that expensive on macs and not as delayed as on the PC then I might just switch over as the mac is a more stable OS.

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I can't believe the guy who made that graphic has the nerve to call the Mac user a geek who sits on the sofa in his undies all day, while simultaneously admitting he is a member of the 'PC gaming community'. :erm: :D

I switched from PC to Mac in 1999. I have never regretted it for a day. I don't see why I should have to build my own PC to get somthing that doesn't look like an invader in my front room. You don't have to self-build your telly to get something that looks nice, so I don't see why I should have to build a PC. I want something that looks good, works as soon as I switch it on and does what I want it to do. If I have to pay more for that convenience, then so be it. We all do it, every day of the week. It's a mystery to me why people suddenly get so anal over it when it comes to computers. Yes, I'm sure you could have made it yourself using just two aubergines. The point is, why should I have to? Every other piece of consumer electronics I have ever owned, I have bought the model off the shelf that does what I want it to do. No difference here.

Actually I think if it were possible to conduct a time-travel and memory-wiping experiment we might find the self-build brigade would be the ones who would have been in to building their own crystal radios and then laughing smugly at the fools sat round the over priced, mass produced, valved wireless in the living room. :D

/uses scroll wheel on his 4-button Apple Mighty Mouse to check other posts

And games are for kids. :p:

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Does chatting to someone in a Forum count as meeting? ;)

Anyhoo, before Mac users get too smug over security, I think you will find that the more popular the Mac gets (and it should, it's a good piece of kit, if a little over-priced), the more the h4x0r$ will go for it.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/02/16/mac_os-x_virus/
'First' Mac OS X Trojan sighted

Related stories

McAfee warns over Apple virus risk (9 May 2006)
Apple releases Mac OS X 10.4.6 update (4 April 2006)
Apple update fixes 'critical' security bug (2 March 2006)
Triple threat to Mac OS X largely academic (27 February 2006)
Unpatched Mac OS X hole poses critical risk (22 February 2006)
Mac OS X malware latches onto Bluetooth vulnerability (17 February 2006)
OSx86 Project forum halted after DMCA violation claim (17 February 2006)
Researchers say rootkits are headed for BIOS (27 January 2006)
MS anti-virus beta. Hmmm... (2 December 2005)
Firefox and Mac security sanctuaries 'under attack' (19 September 2005)
Symantec false alert floors Macs (10 May 2005)

And this is from the Apple Mac Download page - Security updates since 1st August 2006
Security Update 2006-005 (10.3.9) � Update Security Update 2006-005 is recommended for all users and improves the security of AirPort.
09/21/2006Security Update 2006-005 (10.4.7 PPC) � Update Security Update 2006-005 is recommended for all users and improves the security of AirPort.
09/21/2006Security Update 2006-005 (10.4.7 Universal) � Update Security Update 2006-005 is recommended for all users and improves the security of AirPort.
09/21/2006
QuickTime 7.1.3 (Universal) � Update
QuickTime 7.1.3 is an important release that delivers numerous bug fixes and addresses critical security issues. This update is recommended for all QuickTime 7 users and is required for playback of content purchased in the iTunes Store.

Security Update 2006-004 for Mac Pro and Mac OS X Server v10.4.7 (Universal) � Update Security Update 2006-004 is recommended for all users and improves the security of the following components.
08/09/2006Server Admin Tools 10.4.7 (Universal) � Update Installs updated versions of the Mac OS X Server administration software.
08/07/2006Security Update 2006-004 (10.3.9 Client) � Update Security Update 2006-004 is recommended for all users.
08/01/2006Security Update 2006-004 (10.3.9 Server) � Update Security Update 2006-004 is recommended for all servers and improves the security of the following components.
08/01/2006Security Update 2006-004 Mac OS X 10.4.7 Client (Intel) � Update Security Update 2006-004 is recommended for all users and improves the security of the following components.
08/01/2006Security Update 2006-004 Mac OS X 10.4.7 Client (PPC) � Update Security Update 2006-004 is recommended for all users and improves the security of the following components.

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No. I didn't meet the ladies in question online.. I know them offline.


Look over my posts in the past. I personally don't believe that *any* operating system is totally secure. I just made the point that OSX is inherantly more secure than XP. And yes, I am an experienced user of both.

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then I'm proud of being a 28year old kid :D

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Mac's have a beautiful inside. No cables all over the place and they can be good.
However, I prefer my PC. I'm used to it and althuogh Windows can be very annoying at times, I like it.

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soooo....? Unless you take the cover off you'll never see it anyway :confused:

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Weren't the sides of the original iMac transparent?

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Surely this should be a WINDOWS vs Mac debate. My PC runs Linux. :p: (look out its a can of worms!)

I do beleive they were, a mate of mine still has one knocking about somewhere.

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Yes they were, I had one until a recent thunderstorm :disturbd:

You couldn't see too much though, just the CRT, a few capacitors and a load of heatsinks.

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Macs are also used in computer science (at least at my uni) because of 1) Media and 2) Unix.

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That's a good point, both of my machines run Linux too :p:

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Well, I dual boot...

By the way Robster, I replied to your PM re wireless driver...

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Dont forget... Macs can run Linux too :)

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And Macs can run Windows too, so shouldn't this thread be called Mac vs Mac?

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:confused:

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Antisilence, the foundations of MAC OSX are all on Unix, you also got a fully working Unix kernell and command line in the os itself, thats what Damien ment with it.

robster for what kind of card you need Mac drivers, if its ralink cards go to www.ralinktech.com and there select support. if its another card I might even be able to find something for that ;)

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the few macs i've had the chance to have a go on (various os releases) all drove me stark raving bonkers... no doubt if i gave it more time i'd get used to it, but there's little incentive.

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Heh, I think AntiSilence was pondering why Damien felt the need to tell us that Macs are used in CS labs, at least at his university anyway... rather than the *nix origins of OS X.

Not sure anyone had previously questioned whether they are or not.

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Sorry I should have quoted someone earlier in the topic who mentioned how macs are used in the home and how they are good for home users. I was pointing out that IT professionals and Media professionals also use macs and they are not simply a 'home' computer.

Mac OSX is not Windows Lite, Or "My first pc" type OS. Its a powerful operating system and very very complex if you know what your doing.

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:LOL:

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Look, its humour. Humour doesn't necessarily have to be factually accurate.

There are grains of truth in there, although they are very exagerated to make it funny. Although with Mac cult members, its never funny :p:

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Shouldn't that be Mac clique members? :tiptoe:

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Its not funny. It stupid, the humor is rubbish.

This is a funny mac thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6irAfABLsT0

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v. funny - and another one for gamers :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZvt6...related&search=

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Well, I stand corrected. :tu:

Although humour is subjective.

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That raised a chuckle with me, but it was his delivery rather than what he was saying that I found amusing. I've used Macs for about 6 and a half years now and I didn't recognise most of the frustrations he was decribing.

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yeah , the official Amiga UNIX SVR4 port was cool too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amiga_Unix
http://amix.failsure.net/tiki-index....e=AMIX+History

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someone mention can+worms.......
surely you mean, WINDOWS V Mac OS/OSX , as Mac usesally refers to the hardware and/or the CPU.... (unless its network cards!)..

but then again, windows did also run on the PPC originally....

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Yeah, PPC linux works very nice on them too.

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Yes, while we usually use 'Mac vs PC' as convenient shorthand for this old favourite, what we're actually comparing is operating systems. It's Windows versus OSX.

Macs have gone intel now anyway.

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Is this a new or old thread? :confused: It's certainly an old argument.:rolleyes:

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arrrr, now, we can get into the Emulation side ROTFL

the PPC Emulator works on x86, the x86 works on the PPC, so now we get to the point were you can run windows on MacOS,running windows,running macOS etc ,etc, perhaps those multicore CPU's in whatever flavour x86 or PPC would improve these Emulations LOL.

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OSX is Linux... Just with a different GUI.

In fact the distribution of linux that forms OSX (Darwin) is actually available free... Therefore you are only paying for a GUI and the attractive hardware.

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I like having a computer that I can buy off the shelf from a huge variety of looks, from small cubes to 3 foot high towers. why should I be restricted to the pathetic offering of one company?
I like that I can buy a computer for £500 and in 2 years time upgrade it for < £200.
I like that I can easily install multiple operating systems, either 32bit or 64bit.
I like that as standard, even on the cheapest computer, my mouse has two buttons as standard.
I like that I can eject my floppy and cd/dvds via a button on the drive (rather than like at uni where we resorted to using a pin to eject floppies that were trapped in a powered down mac)

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more :confused: now then :wink:

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You little devil!:devsmoke: I'd have just said argue among yourselves until you get bored.

Discuss indeed.:D

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I like a computer that has a proper delete button on the keyboard, so you are not forced to drag items to the trash.

I also like an OS that allows for multiple select (shift - select) regardless of how the contents of a directory are viewed. Particularly when the default does not allow it.

I like an OS that orders items in a directory. Not displays them on top of each other/unaligned as default.

An Os that does not occasionally decide to list every directory in a directory listing twice would be nice.

It would be nice if the OS could update the contents of directories reliably. Not wait for me to click in it before it decides new files have been created in it.

I want a keyboard with an 'end' key and a hash sign standard. I spent two grand on this machine excluding the monitor. It's not too much to ask, is it?

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Keeps them occupied & out of mischief... ;)

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Which OS does all that then? What's wrong with your delete key, end key and hash key?

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OS X Does. (With the standard keyboard.) When selecting a file you have to drag it to the trash. Pressing delete doesn't work. The keyboard has no end or hash key. You need to select the hash sign from a pull down menu... Great for programming :erm:

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Wasn't aware of any of that. I thought OS X was perfect :rolleyes:

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Well, guess again. OS X is ok, but there's plenty to get annoyed about.

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but then you have the thing... is there a thing called a perfect OS?

windows. got bugs and flaws
linux. got bugs and flaws.
MAC OS. also some bugs and flaws.


if some1 knows a totally perfect OS then I would like to see it :)

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End of the day, OS's are coded by people, and will therefore always have bugs and flaws.

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http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bl...ighborhood.jpg

;)

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OSX does that, they copyed it from amigaOS, they didnt as far as i know though, also copy the the ability to move the mouse cursor around with the keyboard.............

no one so far has copyed the ability to set any number of partitions as bootable (256+ if you like) and then boot any one of them by holding right/left mouse button (or the keyboard equiv of them) and having a GUI pop up so you can select a boot partition.

thats one copyed option that many people would find very useful.

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Won't be long now before someone mentions CP/M.

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ohh look foreverwar mentioned CP/M.

what did that stand for Forever?........

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Control Program/Microcomputers - and no, I didn't use it (in the eighties I used cobol, rpg, and mainframe assembler - those were the days (my *rse)

I had to learn it for my Masters in Computing, though, which I did in the 90's - waste of time that was:dozey:

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Very true. I just thought I'd list some of my peeves with OS X. For the sake of balance :)

(I do like OS X, I use use it on a daily basis at work, but I wouldn't buy a Mac for home)

Oh. And Unix apps under cygwin are often easier to install than on the Mac imo... :)

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I had to use CP/M to format disks on my Amstrad CPC!

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LMFAO okay Bmxbandit. you made that picture?

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OS X is not Linux, nor is it based on Linux. Darwin is based on the BSD kernel, which is completely separate from Linux.

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But pressing Apple+backspace works just fine ;)

Option+3 will give you the hash symbol. Try using the keyboard viewer (formerly known as Key Caps) to show what the different key combinations will produce. There are quite a few special characters available via the Option key.

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It's obvious that OSX was developed by Unix guys - as a chum of mine, who is a Unix buff, said "nobody knows all of Unix - experts just know most of the shortcuts, and where to look for the rest". That statement above confirms (imho) his statement. :D

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That's it! I've had enough of modern computers!
I'm painting my function keys orange!

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WOOOHOOOO BBC Micro days again! YAY :D

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Option+3 to display a standard symbol that's been on keyboards for years? What's that all about then? Which muppet came up with that idea?

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Y orange? make it yellow, its nicer ;)

The debate has evolved into something i dnt quite understand but am a Windows user, by default. The price being the deciding factor.
I'd love to try out Linux tho!

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Then you should give it a try :)

Firstly, either download a Linux LiveCD and boot your PC with that in the CD drive (it'll boot into a fully functioning Linux environment that runs entirely from the CD and won't mess around with your Windows installation... when you're done, just reboot the PC without the CD and you're back to Windows) or alternatively use the free VMWare to install a Linux image that you access from within Windows. Both of these options are non-destructive to Windows - although you will suffer a slight performace hit compared to running the OS directly from the hard drive.

Then, when you're happy enough with Linux, you can go for the dual-boot option so that you get the full speed.

I'd recommend you give Kubuntu a try. If you go to their website, you can even order a CD and they'll ship it to you completely free of charge. Now that's service :) Shame Microsoft don't offer a similar service.

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Thanks 4 tht...
Didn't knw they even ship the cd FOC!!!!
tht is wonderful.
Looking forward to tryin out d CD.

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No no no, plain Ubuntu is what you want! Gnome's where it's at, none of this KDE rubbish ;)

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Sorry, mate, I've gotta disagree... no matter how much I try, I just can't get onj with Gnome. KDE is a lot like Microsoft's GUI, but I prefer it over Gnome.

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Gnome dnt seem to ship the cd or is it tht i missed a link!
tho i wudt mind trying any Linux 4 a first time, i cnt download 600mb or so of software. nt yet anyway, as my pc only has 536mb left of memory!!!
too many downloads. n too lazy to burn them :erm:

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Yeah, you'd need another link...

The version of Linux we're talking about here was originally called Ubuntu. You can order a free version of this from www.ubuntu.com - this version ships with the Gnome GUI instead of KDE.

The version I linked to before is called Kubuntu, which includes KDE instead of Gnome.

Hope that helps clear it up :)

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You can see a bit of the differences between the 2 by looking at

http://shots.osdir.com/

In partciular, here's what Ubuntu (i.e. using Gnome) looks like... http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/sl....1+screenshots

And, here's what Kubuntu (i.e. using KDE) looks like...
http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/sl...06+screenshots

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If you use Microsoft Virtual PC, which is free, you can use the .iso file to install the OS to your virtual hard Drive. Therefore you don't even need to burn the cd. Not sure about VMware - but I presume it is the same.

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ahem ... this is a forum, not a txt msg service. You can write full words and sentences. ;)

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I apologise Chris. I shall make sure that such grammatical mishaps do not occur on the forum again. :dunce: :p:

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So you should, boy. Now stand in the corner and drop your shorts while I give you six of the best across the behind with my Collins Gem. :p:

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uhhhh....do i get to do the same to you after? :rolleyes:

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Get a room you two! :luv: ROFL

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thanks again lads. I am looking forward to the live cds.
Should have a nice time playing around with them!!!

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To be honest, i have Power ISO but only ever used it to extract .bin files. And some .iso files. i will try using it!! :dozey:

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I should point out that am not realy into whips and handcuffs and leather... :omg:

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Loved the caveat "not really" - so, only occasionally, with "good friends" ;)

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LOL.... :LOL:
ok am not into them things AT ALL!!!! hahaha...
u made a good point there Foreverwar!

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http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10...ok_pro_injury/

Here's another reason not to like macs...they try to maim you. lol

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That was probably from trying to get a # sign up using too many key combinations to write a document :rolleyes:

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I love these MAC geeks, they just don't get it, its not a computer its a fancy ornament that looks good but ultimately, like an ornament, does nothing other than that.

I mean - what does a MAC do anyway - why would you spend "HOW MUCH" on a MAC over a PC what are its advantages (other than it looks good?)

Tell me that please, until then this isn't even an argument, its a laugh at the rich kid who wasted his cash thread.

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Deary me ... have you been at your parents' drinks cabinet or something? :erm:

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I presume you have a MAC?

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Anyone whose computer has a network card has a MAC. Some of us have Macs . ;)

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Yeah, but pronouncing it MAC really gets up a geeks nose and is a lot more fun.

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It would have been more polite if it were not in bold...

Point taken though... I really should spell it Mac.

But that can the only thing you are accusing me of trolling for as the rest of my post is valid and still unanswered.

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There are loads of reasons I love Mac. I love the way it connects to my Unis wireless network without set up. The way it connects to my wireless without set up (other than passwords obviously).

No spyware or virus checkers. Always keeps it speed, doesnt slow down or become annoying after a couple of years on a installation. Always feels nice and quick and sleek. Less errors and doesnt throw a hissy fit every now and then which requires massive amounts of menus and such. Less pop ups, stays out the way. Just works. Much more stress-free than using windows.

Rather good for video and graphic work :tu: Kinda fun :D Cool features and useful ones such as expose and spotlight (expose i cannot live without now!).

A few other things i have forgot at the moment. (Oh it looks cool too)

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I dunno. They edit video better? In fact any multimedia work (audio, graphical, photographic, video or film) is generally easier on a Mac.

Also, in a lab environment, they are *far* easier than Windows to administer. For instace, when we set the labs up again, I can sit there at my desk, and order every Mac to shutdown, reboot, wipe itself and re-install the O/S. It will then add itself to the Uni's Active Directory domain and set up admin rights accordingly. Windows can do that, as long as you use a Microsoft DHCP server, or reconfigure the DHCP server that you do use.

I'll admit that none of that is important for the average user (well, apart from the fact that the OS supports "ghosting" natively, unlike Windows, so you can easily copy a working OS back from disc if you should mess things up).

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No probs on a PC.

If you have no virus checker your fooling yourself, the MAc is riddled with them too, you even have spyware, but unfortunately a lack of programs to detect it.

I've still to see a PC program that causes a hissy fit and "then which requires massive amounts of menus and such"...

My PC just works, has done for several years and with Firefox (free) i dont get no popups, spyware or adverts for that matter.

The PC can do that too.

The thing about the PC is that A) its cheaper and B) can do more.

Point still stands, the only difference is that a MaC looks better, but costs more and can do less, and if your really that bothered the money difference between a PC and a mAC would allow you to "pimp your PC" to look like anything you want really.

Nuff said.

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Thats a fairly sweeping statement, i cant argue it though as i have tried neither but there are loads of programs capable of doing it on a PC.

Now THATS more like it, quite impressive too, i like the whole self install thing.

Although you can set up a PC to do that i certainly wouldn't, that seems to be an advantage that a mAc has, it has exactly the same hardware in every Model.

Although i could also argue the disadvantages of that as well in that you may want to have the option to build your own.

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No-one said that the PC wasn't capable.... Just that it was a darn site easier on a Mac. :shrug:

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They are not riddled with viruses :S

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There is a lot of deliberaterly misleading propaganda out there propogated by Mac cult members, that's one I certainly take issue with. Its an out and out lie.

My powerbook is over 2 years old now and its considerably slower than when I bought it. It wern't that fast then either.

Useful features that let you find files? But finding out what the combined size of two or more folders? That's not very useful to Mac cult members nor Steve Jobs, but it is to me. I had to download a finder plugin to find out what the size was. Absolutely appalling. Also, I found out I needed this plugin when I selected some 75+ folders and did a properties on them, only to find 75+ folder properties windows popup forcing me to restart my Powerbook.

Oh, that's alright then. Also titanium look good for about 30 mins out the box, when it needs cleaning.

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you better watch out, you better beware.........
http://www.securemac.com/

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In what way easier? I did a bit of video editing for the first time ever on my PC and it wasn't that difficult.

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Depends on the software you use, and what you want to do with it. However, iMovie (part of the iLife suite) is more versatile than Windows Movie Maker, and has the option to export the video straight to DVD. Also (and I am comparing against Premiere Pro 2 here), things like titling are noticably easier.

Final Cut Pro (Apple's high end video editing software) is more difficult to use, but still makes things like dealing with video from multi-camera shoots easy.

Also, both Final Cut Pro and iMovie on my little 1.5Ghz Mac Mini dealt with Hi Definition video FAR more easily (and smoothly) than Premiere Pro on my 2Ghz PC. Admittedly, Premiere Pro running on my current 3.6 Ghz PC runs as smoothly as FCP does on the 1.5GHz Mac.

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Clock speed means nothing.

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Surely that applies to the PC also?

Ok, but there's bound to be software for the PC that can do the same, just as easy. We're not limited to Windows Movie Maker you know! :rolleyes:

But that's all down to how the software has been programmed. It doesn't have anything to do with the computer its running on. If Final Cut Pro was programmed for the PC with the exact same features, menus and options, how could it be any less easy to use?