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Caimh 12-09-2006 13:54

My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Dear Steve,

Thank you for your letter of September 2006 and in answer to your question, yes! As an NTL telephone and broadband customer, I did know that I was entitled to a special deal on digital TV. I'm not sure what tipped me off, it may have been the extensive advertising of the fact or the never ending stream of letters I've received from you. Either way, rest assured, the penny has dropped. I'm sorry, I should have written sooner, it's become quite clear to me that you've become fixated on my knowing this. Rest assured, I do.

Lets talk man to man Steve, we both know what this is about. When I moved into my new house eight months ago, I decided to go with you for the phone and broadband but not the digital TV. In hindsight, I can see that was insensitive of me. You felt cheap and used. You were looking for a long-term commitment and I was all "Wham, Bam, thank you Steve!". Please believe me, It's not you Steve, it's me. I'm really more of a reader, I'm just not as interested in watching re-runs of Lovejoy as you are. We want different things from life, you're just going to have to accept that.

Which brings me to the phone calls Steve. Every day for weeks and weeks, someone would ring my mobile during the morning and hang up every time I'd answer. As you know Steve, I work nights and this became very irritating. I was already losing sleep worrying about my decision to go without digital TV and this just made it a lot worse. The number the phone calls came from was 08000 272500. When I rang back all I got was a recorded Scottish lady saying I'd been contacted by a company called MGT, at least I think that's it (bless the Scots, their diction isn't brilliant is it Steve?). Ring the number right now Steve, you'll hear their message. There was no contact number, I couldn't find them on the internet and the message just said they'd rang on behalf of an unspecified client and, ominously, would ring again. Which they did, over and over and over again.

I was at a lose end, who wanted to get hold of me that badly? My housemate Gary said it sounded like it was something called an "automatic dialler" that had my number but you know how private I am Steve. I don't think I'd have given my number out to something like that. They only people I gave it to was you(NTL), Gary and my mum. Initially we suspected Mum to behind the calls but her Scottish accent really isn't good enough to pull it off, although it's thankfully not as unfortunately racist as her attempt at Welsh.

Never the less, I thought I'd go home to Dublin and confront her about it. She denied all knowledge and sat in her room sulking while watching re-runs of Lovejoy. Then came the break-through! When MGT did their daily ring and hang-up while I was over there, I got not the 0800 dead end number but thanks to the magic of international phone exchanges, I got their real number(01592 587200). When I rang back, I got an actual human being! Albeit one who works in tele-sales. She tried to protect you but after a lot of toing and fro-ing, she dropped the bombshell. They'd been given my number by you!

I was hurt, I was confused. I know we've had our problems in the past Steve but I did tick the "do not contact me" box on the contract and I can't believe you'd give my details to someone else. Instead of dealing with our problems head on Steve you hired someone to stalk me for weeks and weeks. If you'd have just stalked me yourself at least that I might have understood but instead you went for the commercial equivalent of putting my number on a loo wall with the message "If you're looking for a good time ring…"

I rang NTL's customer service line. They tried to cover for you Steve rest assured. Every one of those brave Customer service call center cannon fodderites was willing to dive on the emotional grenade of my outrage for you. They tried everything - 35 minutes of denying a company called MGT did sales calls for you, assurances nobody ever did sales calls for you, a game of pass the irate Paddy which lead to me speaking to about 30 different people. Eventually one of them cracked and admitted, yes it was you, yes I'd said not to contact me on my contract and very definitely not to give my details to a third party.

So, that's the real reason why I'm writing Steve. I rang over a week ago and I was assured my complaint was being dealt with and someone would get right back to me... but nothing. I think you're living in denial Steve. I'm taking your letter of this morning as a clumsy attempt to say you want things to go back to the way they were, that just can't happen.

I tried to talk to you directly on the phone about this Steve but your customer helpline is set up in such a way as to make talking to anyone of any kind of authority a complete impossibility. Indeed, as I sit here staring at my beloved NTL phone on my desk, I find it hard to believe that I was seriously told by a representative of NTL the phone company, who provide my phone services and who lead to me being phoned every day for weeks, that the only real way to complain was to write you a letter. Steve, I think you've got a royal mail spy in your midst.

In summary Steve, I eagerly await the day when my contract with you expires and I can transfer to someone who is a lot less clingy. I tried to suggest to your people that in light of your appalling actions you should release me from my contract now but I was told that was impossible without my paying a wapping big fine. Steve, Steve, Steve - did no less a man than the great Sting say - 'If you love someone set them free'. In other words, I think we should see other people.

yours sincerely,



Caimh McDonnell
www.myspace.com/caimh

P.S. Oh what the hell, maybe we can work something out. So Steve, please send me your personal mobile number and lets talk about this man-to-man.

Creative 12-09-2006 14:02

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
PMSL Absolutely first class.

Bill C 12-09-2006 14:05

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
:tu:

Nicely put.

Shaun 12-09-2006 14:24

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Nice to see a new one of these histerical (but to the point) letters. Let us know how you get on with Steve - I'm sure one of the girls on here will be able to take him off your hands ;)

Graham M 12-09-2006 14:33

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
LoL I like it :)

superbiatch 12-09-2006 14:39

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Absolute Class :D

alexcopeland 12-09-2006 14:42

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Although I do not hate NTL and have had no major issues with them this is class. Just sent it around the office.

IanUK 12-09-2006 16:59

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Superb

Jules 12-09-2006 17:11

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Well worth reading, lol. Please keep us informed :tu:

Derek 12-09-2006 17:26

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Arf! Nice letter and its good to see Ntl are taking their 'Do not contact' obligations as seriously as before. :rolleyes:

Fingy 12-09-2006 19:42

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Brilliant. My sides are sore.

KevAmiga 12-09-2006 19:45

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
:) Lol... to the point i guess :D

AntiSilence 12-09-2006 20:47

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Fantastic! :rofl:

CycoSymz 12-09-2006 20:59

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
That is great. Had me in stitches. LOL

DocDutch 12-09-2006 21:24

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Excellent letter there mate :) Ohhh btw :welcome:

hope you get a nice answer on this but I doubt it really.

homealone 12-09-2006 21:44

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
It is self promotion, really, of course

http://www.myspace.com/caimh

- very well done, though :tu:

Caimh 13-09-2006 16:00

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
To be honest, it'd be a remarkably convoluted way of self-promotion. I'm a comic and writer, I don't expect a letter to NTL to generate any more work in either of those areas. :)

I have been contacted with NTL but this response was more to do with them getting the phonecalls to stop, which I've already done. I'm much more concerned with the issues of data protection and harassment. I've asked NTL to stop using MGT or any other company with an auto-dialler. If you think about it, I was very lucky to find out where these calls were coming from, how many more people are being similarily hassled? Also, my details were given to a third party company without my consent and they have a lot of other clients.

homealone 13-09-2006 17:41

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caimh (Post 34116048)
To be honest, it'd be a remarkably convoluted way of self-promotion. I'm a comic and writer, I don't expect a letter to NTL to generate any more work in either of those areas. :)

I have been contacted with NTL but this response was more to do with them getting the phonecalls to stop, which I've already done. I'm much more concerned with the issues of data protection and harassment. I've asked NTL to stop using MGT or any other company with an auto-dialler. If you think about it, I was very lucky to find out where these calls were coming from, how many more people are being similarily hassled? Also, my details were given to a third party company without my consent and they have a lot of other clients.

The comment was about the inclusion of the link to your myspace page, rather than the letter itself, which I found hilarious :)

MovedGoalPosts 13-09-2006 17:52

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
I'd suggest that if autodialers are being used, then based on the contents of that letter, MGT should find themselves in a bit of trouble with ofcom: http://ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/...suse_state.pdf

bonzoe 13-09-2006 18:24

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Have you registered with the telephone preference service?

The calls you have been getting amount to harassment, if they do not stop when requested they can be prosecuted for harassment, so I have heard. Think you would need to tell them this when telling them to stop, put it in writing of course.

SnoopZ 13-09-2006 18:41

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bonzoe (Post 34116136)
Have you registered with the telephone preference service?

The calls you have been getting amount to harassment, if they do not stop when requested they can be prosecuted for harassment, so I have heard. Think you would need to tell them this when telling them to stop, put it in writing of course.

http://www.tpsonline.org.uk/tps/

Caimh 13-09-2006 23:50

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Thanks very much for the Ofcom stuff, that's brilliant. They've broken most if not all of those rules.
Incidentally, I got a call today from an Executive Officer at NTL to apologise for everything and to offer to allow me to break my NTL contract with no penalty. It's interesting that you can ring and complain until you're blue in the face and get nowhere but if they get wind of a sarcastic letter that people are forwarding around, they get nervous.
They did say however they were going to keep using MGT and their auto-dialler which I feel is completely unacceptable. I'm alright Jack but what about the other poor sods who are going to keep getting this harassment? I said I was going to keep on at this until NTL agree that such things are not acceptable business practices. Another letter will be winging it's way to our good friend Steve, watch this space.

arcamalpha2004 14-09-2006 10:54

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Caimh (Post 34116340)
Thanks very much for the Ofcom stuff, that's brilliant. They've broken most if not all of those rules.
Incidentally, I got a call today from an Executive Officer at NTL to apologise for everything and to offer to allow me to break my NTL contract with no penalty. It's interesting that you can ring and complain until you're blue in the face and get nowhere but if they get wind of a sarcastic letter that people are forwarding around, they get nervous.
They did say however they were going to keep using MGT and their auto-dialler which I feel is completely unacceptable. I'm alright Jack but what about the other poor sods who are going to keep getting this harassment? I said I was going to keep on at this until NTL agree that such things are not acceptable business practices. Another letter will be winging it's way to our good friend Steve, watch this space.


Well given that ntl have admitted they use mgt and they are going to carry on using it maybe people should shift providers?
On a final note, the police will prosecute if you are willing to make a complaint, but you have to tell them youre being harrassed, just how desperate are ntl that they have to resort to dirty tricks? :erm:

grandmaster 14-09-2006 11:24

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
pffft .

well done, good read

Caimh 15-09-2006 10:02

Re: My Open letter to Steve Stewart, Managing Director, NTL Customer Care
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004 (Post 34116441)
Well given that ntl have admitted they use mgt and they are going to carry on using it maybe people should shift providers?
On a final note, the police will prosecute if you are willing to make a complaint, but you have to tell them youre being harrassed, just how desperate are ntl that they have to resort to dirty tricks? :erm:

Certainly people could shift providers but it seems to be if one company does something like this, the rest will follow if it's seen that people don't complain.


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