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What animal can you dress up as using stuff from the wardrobe?

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Soooo Sad :erm: :erm: :erm: :D (but funny)

But at least it's a millions times better than what Tracey Emin produces and call 'art', at least those are comical. (how many are going to emulate those I hate to wonder).

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Art? No, it's f'in stupid, I can only hope on the next shoot that guy does a lion comes out of nowhere and kills everybody.

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Regardless of whether or not you'd regard it as art it's a very imaginative concept and seems to work very well.

Someones put a lot of effort into that, and it made me laugh so it wasn't for nothing :)

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That is soooo funny, me thinks he has too much time on his hands :rofl:

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Well, some liked it, some didn't...

What do people think of these?

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That's light entertainment.Luckily such a concept no longer exists on tv so it nows adorns the internet instead.;)

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I think we have seen that gent's work on here somewhere but I can't recall what the thread was called so a search has proved fruitless.

Now that I unreservedly regard as art.Good old pavement art.:tu:

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Fantastic! I'd love to see some of these pieces "up close and personal".

And yes, I think this qualifies as art.

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There's a few more (plus some repeats) here

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My six year old likes it better than most stuff we have seen in museums, not sure thats a good thing though.

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Thanks for that link, now that is what I call real art :tu:

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I've seen the pavement art and think it's truly fantastic, but this is probably one of the best i've seen to-date. :tu:

http://zarius.com/neato/pavement-art/batman-robin.jpg

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Well, I think these are very clever too...

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that pavement artist is great

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One more to pass judgement on...

This is amazing in my opinion...

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Incredible!

Keep 'em comin'!

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Happy to oblige!

Don't you just hate washing your car?

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At last, an excuse not to wash the car!

I love it!!

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Excellent!

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Some fantastic photos here and here...

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Absolutely brilliant, thanks for that one...:)

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Amazing sand drawings...

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Wow, that's incredible :tu:

Going back to the pavement paintings by Julian Beever (who I've been a huge fan of for a while now) what do you think of the stuff that Banksy [banksy.co.uk] has produced? Is it art?

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Yes, of course...

Reminds me of some of the stuff here...

e.g

http://www.woostercollective.com/ima...sweepbrick.jpg

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Ooops, I think that is Banksy...

Some more of his stuff here...

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Well, not sure about this...

Think someone might be taking the p*ss!!

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Some of them look quite cool (I'm not sure why they should not be classed as art. They probably would be if they were vases/regular ceramics). Mind you, perhaps he should be rethink some of these designs. Hygiene/Ease of cleaning does not appear to be very high on his list. Urinals and nooks and crannies do not mix well. :disturbd:

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Urine is actually sterile when released from to body.I can't see the cleaning of these urinals being any more of a problem than the usual ones.I think the shell was was probably the best design.

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It may be sterile, but it does smell. One of the pubs out here is famous for its marble urinals. I can say from experience that it looks nice, but the smell is awfull... Frankly, I think it needs ripping out and starting anew.

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A triumph of experience over form.... :erm:

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20 years after Chernobyl, these pics are very atmospheric & poignant....

I think they're art as historical record...

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I think they're great - if I could afford one I'd have one firrted to my house in a flash. Shame there's around $5,000-$10,500 :disturbd:

http://www.clarkmade.com/urinals.html

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Surely you mean fitted to your house in a flush....

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Some more 2D/3D illusions....

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Amazing. Are there any examples in the UK?

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The only outdoor illusional mural I could find was this...

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I'll have a look next time I'm in Chiswick (which could be soon).

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Julian Beever's homepage...

Some more of his amazing pavement art & other works.

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How about this...?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09...i_cruise_poop/

Is this art? Even if it's TomKat's sprog that inspired it, I still think it's crap :D

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Hmmmm....

No idea of scale on there, but being a father of three, that looks nothing like a sprog's first poop to me....

They're usually green, runny & extremely stinky!! :D

And yes, it is crap...

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Yes, yes - but is it art? As much as I hate to admit it, I think it must be.

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These Serigraphs are really to my taste...

And this is art, but is it funny?

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The serigraphs would be to your taste, wouldn't they, Mr Warhol.

As for the second offering - hmmmmmm....

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May I ask why? (not a leading question; but. since I don't think it is, I am interested in hearing others' viewpoints).

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I think it can be called art because it was made by man as something to be looked at (aesthetic appeal). So, a pile of baby poo is not art, but when it is bronzed and presented on display it becomes art.

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Nope!It's akin to that bronzed baby shoe fad but more disgusting.I can see one very screwed up teenager blowing her father away one day.

Which reminds me, I must dispose of some of the baby pictures I've got..well discreetly remove them before anyone is 'invited' to view old photos.;)

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They are both art..the second is more like satirical cartoons and are very much art.Very collectable too.:)

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Is this art, the lady that did it thinks it is, I beg to differ, it looks more like abuse to me
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWArOIdWJGA

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They're fantastic.

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Not a chance in hell that this is art. No way. Never.

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mmmm... I am concerned the word "abuse" is being abused ;) .

The children's parents gave permission, were paid, the kids got the lollipops back, and then the photos were enhanced to make it look more dramatic.

If taking a lollipop of a kid is going to "emotionally scar it for life", what is happening in school-yards and playgrounds around the world - Gulf War 3?

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Well, to me this is art, but it's also Maths...

All the pictures are created from a single closed loop...

And I'm not biased 'cos my avatar's in there...

The pieces are based on TSP, the Travelling Salesman Problem. Visit a number of cities (represented by points on the loops) in the shortest possible distance...

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This is an interesting introduction to 'Modern Art' from the San Francisco Museum...

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Certainly could be abuse... I would be interested to know what parents would put that.

Back to art... Its the sign of a very poor artist. Anyone that lacks the conception that they have to have actual models pose exactly, and that she is so poor at rendering a design that she has to use photos, subjecting kids to that, is very poor form for me.

However, if you want an excellent example of brilliant art of that concept, see this from artist Mark Ryden.

Rose:
http://www.earlmcgrathgallery.com/ga.../rose42_03.jpg

Still sends chills down my spine... Just like The Scream by Munch (which has just been found after being stolen for years).

http://www.luc.edu/depts/history/den...The-Scream.jpg

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That picture by Mark Ryden was tattooed onto a girls lower back on Miami Ink.

Im starting to lean towards graffiti type art - specifically banksy's stuff.

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Sorry, what I meant to say is "What parents would put their children through that"

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I think this website is brilliant...

Explore & enjoy...

Hint, don't click on everything at first, just move the mouse pointer over objects...

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Simple, yet extraordinary! Excellent!

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Science or Art?

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great link :tu:

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Some fantastic paper sculptures...

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Fantastic is the word! And most are just a sheet of A4 paper and some glue!!

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Didn't you see the big ones? Just a teensy bit larger than A4!!

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Cobby - some great finds there - thanks.

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Fascinating Bauhaus archive here...

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For people who like Banksy there's some more stencil street art here...

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A couple more Trompe L'oeil painted rooms...

No idea who the artists are...

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Anyone had a go on the slides yet?

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What's it say under my name? ;)

No, not yet....

Do you think it's just to get more kids into Tate Modern? ;)

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Well, more big kids at least ;)

And if a PR bod says it's art, who am I to argue? :)

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Why shouldn't you argue.If public money gets spent on it you should have every right to an opinion.Art is subjective and no one person has the right to tell anyone else that their taste is wrong..

It's why I hate that Trinny and whatits show.Who the hell gave them permission to judge what people should and shouldn't wear.:mad:

We really should stop giving folk permission to look down their noses at us and say we have no taste and have no legitimate reason to have an opinion on all forms of art.Why do people think everyone should like what they like?I love Shakespeare but I know there are lots who don't and I don't think any the less of them for doing so.

Mind I'll also defend your right to have no opinion at all because not every picture/statue/poem/novel will affect us in the same way.;)

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Erm, I actuall do think it's art, although I'm not 100% sure why :) And of course I love Trinny & Suzannah - for exactly the same reason you hate them!

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It is Art, but is it plagiarism?

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cobbyda...true_daisy.jpg

A biiger image of the one on the left may make the comparison easier...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/cobbyda...ges/valium.jpg

Unfortunately I can't find a larger image of the one on the right...

Do you think they could have been conceived totally independently, 15 years apart?

Both pieces of art have exactly the same number of dots...

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You have entirely too much free time on your hands. LOL

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at first I thought it might be a variation on the '4 colour theorem', but there are more than 4 colours :dunce:

it reminds me of the pages used to test if you are colour blind.

In my opinion I can't decide whether mathematically generated graphics are 'art', or not - I don't mean rendered stuff, which requires the artist to design the framework, but things like fractals, which can be beautiful, but are 'lifeless'???

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Well, the coloured one is Damien Hirst, and I don't think he's recognised as using computers to generate his art...

It's claimed he traced it, as it's an exact reversed image of the black & white one...

See here...

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which quotes

Mr Dixon’s original drawing was based on a mathematical model inspired by his extensive study of a daisy, the natural pattern of which is different from any known concentric pattern in art or architecture. After some time trying to draw the pattern by traditional means, he drew it on a computer.

:)

so it was a 'coloured in' copy of a computer generated image - not 'art', as I would define it - if people are prepared to engage with that, then I am not going to say they are wrong, I just don't agree with them. :)

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Well he certainly didn't hand trace it even with a lightbox.

I think it's the usual case of failed artist having a case of sour grapes and wanting to make some dosh.I personally regard niether of them as being particularly original.I bet if we all went digging we could find that the so called original had been 'copied' from somewhere else or based on another picture.

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is 'it' art? I think everything is a work of art. Someone, be it God, nature, man, or machine created 'it' and that I admire - whether I find it pleasing is another matter entirely! :scratch:

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somewhere in here, presumably :)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set

;)

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:clap: :handshake

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Actually it's more likely to be here... ;)

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Deep thinking ON

OK... so what about a vacuum (emptiness, not a Hoover)? Or an idea that exists in space and time, such as the equator? Or a mathematical constant, such as pi? Are these examples of art?

Deep thinking OFF

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pi art here... ;)

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Ha! Very good!!

I'll shut up now...

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Nooooo... I've not found any art in a vacuum....

Yet... ;)

The composition in this shot is perfect....

Taken in a vacuum & very aesthetic IMO... ;)

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That really is beautiful. But, in my opinion, it is not art, as it was not made by man.

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Yes I find the geology of this planet the most wonderful abstract sculptor..In fact in the past in my 3D work I tried to incorporate the natural sculptures of the world into my work or find a way to present it mainly through the medium of ceramics.

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Sorry to disagree Norm, but that's saying that any photograph of landscapes / natural phenomenom / scenery etc isn't art...

They subjects aren't made by man, but IMO the photographs are art due to the composition / colour balance & everything else which is down to the skill of the photographer...

That begs the question of course, if the photograph's art, why isn't the subject...

Getting a bit deep this.... :spin:

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Good point! OK, let's stick with the subject (as opposed to a photograph) for a moment. Suppose you climb a mountain, and near the top gaze upon the snow-capped peak. This is completely untouched by man, as it snowed last night, and you are the first person on the scene. Would you call this art?

Deeper...

Would it have been art before you looked at it?

Even deeper ...

Would it have been art if this had happened 10 million years ago, before there were any people around?


... time for an aspirin...

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Is this art or just plain rude? :D

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wow, lmao! :rofl: that's a very skillful piece of work. ;)

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Some artwork on German artics...

I'll get my coat... :tiptoe:

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http://www.3dcommune.com/3d/galview....&nd=1162532207

Well do you think this is art?

It is entirely computer generated.

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Well, it appears very technically proficient & getting the lighting effects just so must have taken some time...

However, I wouldn't call a photograph of some toffee apples Art so I couldn't really classify this as such, IMO...

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Funnily enough I would consider it all art CGI or painted or drawn or photographed.Whether it would or should win the Turner Prize is another matter.
:)

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Yet another example of Julian Beever pavement art...

Everything below the bottom step is an illusion...

https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2006/12/8.jpg

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Another page of Trompe-l'Oeil murals...

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Some veggie art...

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Some more street art...

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Wonderful!

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Vegetables as Alien... :)

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Here is another

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Gilbert & George wannabe?

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Actually miles better than that pair of overated freaks in my opinion.