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ppolo99 17-06-2006 14:59
Modem = Bin?
 
Hi :) ,
Iv cancelled my ntl broadband now and i was asking the dude on the line when he was going to pick my modem up to which he replyed "there not going to".
I was wondering since the modem has a certain MAC address and is registered to my name and address should i just chuck it in the bin since it seems theres nothing i can do with it?

Thanks for reply

danielf 17-06-2006 15:06
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Yeah, just chuck it.

tomjleeds 17-06-2006 16:12
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Don't just bin it! At least take a sledge-hammer to it or something and take out some anger ;)

grubbymitts 17-06-2006 16:37
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Sell it on eBay to some fool. ;)

just kidding!

But look here at these idiots:

http://search.ebay.co.uk/search/sear...itle=ntl+modem

ppolo99 17-06-2006 16:57
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
LOL cheers all. might throw if on fire :D

p.s cant believe people on ebay! hehe

Efour 17-06-2006 19:43
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/...2011/01/41.gif BOUGHT IN ERROR NTL 250 CABLE MODEM BOTH ETHERNET AND USB COMPATABLE COMPLETE WITH LEADS,POWER SUPPLY AND INSTALLATION CD WILL POST WITHIN 24 HOURS


Jesus christ- these people buying are complete idiots anf the sellers - 1) idiots 2) con merchants.

Paul K 17-06-2006 22:05
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Erm I would refrain from doing anything with it for at least a couple of months or you may get a suprise. You could get unlucky and be the first person to have a collection occur.

thelem 18-06-2006 02:31
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
I've read elsewhere that the modems cost in the region of £10-20, so its not finanically worth collecting them (especially as they would need to be reconditioned, and will be inferior to a brand new modem). The only legal use that I can think of for it is as an unusual plant stand.

Graham M 18-06-2006 02:51
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I think they even cost less than that thelem :)

Agent47 18-06-2006 09:44
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
why are people so daft on ebay, i mean it not like you can buy it plug it in and start downloading. those ebay modems are useless to people.

AbyssUnderground 18-06-2006 12:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent47
why are people so daft on ebay, i mean it not like you can buy it plug it in and start downloading. those ebay modems are useless to people.
Shouldn't NTL contact eBay and get them banned from selling them? After all it is illigal as its not their property, even if they wont work when the buyer gets it.

tubbles 18-06-2006 13:13
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
I am sorry for being one of these "idiots" but I would not have known that they were unusable. I have not bought one cos i get my internet through STB but hey, I may have been dumb enough if i hadn't read this thread. Thanks guys and i bet that there are others that read this and thought Phewwwww better retract my order. I use ebay quite a lot and in general find it good and cheap, but, i only buy what i know about.

Thanks again.

Bill C 18-06-2006 13:25
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground
Quote:
Originally Posted by Agent47
why are people so daft on ebay, i mean it not like you can buy it plug it in and start downloading. those ebay modems are useless to people.
Shouldn't NTL contact eBay and get them banned from selling them? After all it is illigal as its not their property, even if they wont work when the buyer gets it.
I know Ntl have spoken to E-scam sorry E-bay lots of times, EBay don't take them down because at the end of the day ebay make money on every sale. So it is in there interest not to take down the auctions that are totaly against there own terms and conditions and they know it.:Yikes: LOOK HERE

Agent47 18-06-2006 17:47
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Whats to stop someone from buying one of these and trying to flash it with a mac address from an active mac.

Paul K 18-06-2006 18:07
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
NTL would see the same MAC on 2 modems and know someone was up to something. No doubt both modems would then lose service.

James Henry 18-06-2006 18:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul
NTL would see the same MAC on 2 modems and know someone was up to something. No doubt both modems would then lose service.
:rofl:

Like they do now because of course there's absolutely no theft of service on the ntl network.

roseandjim 18-06-2006 18:35
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Just a quick question here -- if someone was paying for ntl's service but had an old modem and couldn't get their full paid for speed why not buy a 250 from ebay and flash the mac address? Thereby avoiding ntl's £50 charge.
No theft - No fraud - where's the problem?

James Henry 19-06-2006 06:58
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by roseandjim
Just a quick question here -- if someone was paying for ntl's service but had an old modem and couldn't get their full paid for speed why not buy a 250 from ebay and flash the mac address? Thereby avoiding ntl's £50 charge.
No theft - No fraud - where's the problem?
It would offend some dogooders on here. Apart from that, nope I don't see a problem with that at all apart from the fact that, obviously, your service couldn't be guaranteed as you're impersonating a lower model of modem so firmware upgrades would fail.

Bill C 19-06-2006 07:37
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by roseandjim
Just a quick question here -- if someone was paying for ntl's service but had an old modem and couldn't get their full paid for speed why not buy a 250 from ebay and flash the mac address? Thereby avoiding ntl's £50 charge.
No theft - No fraud - where's the problem?
Because at this time 250 modems will only work for a subbed customer. The normal methods to change the mac address does not work on these modems. Therefor they are at this time nothing more than a blue doorstop to those that have not paid for one from NTL.

Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
It would offend some dogooders on here.
No one pm me asking how i know. I will not give out details on how to steal cable and therefor will be classed as one of those dogooders :Yikes: now there is a interesting perspective. :) unlimited as a dogooder :LOL:

James Henry 19-06-2006 07:58
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by unlimited
Because at this time 250 modems will only work for a subbed customer. The normal methods to change the mac address does not work on these modems. Therefor they are at this time nothing more than a blue doorstop to those that have not paid for one from NTL.


No one pm me asking how i know. I will not give out details on how to steal cable and therefor will be classed as one of those dogooders :Yikes: now there is a interesting perspective. :) unlimited as a dogooder :LOL:
Gah I only put in the bit about how service couldn't be guaranteed, I didn't want to be more specific :p:

You a dogooder, nah you aren't jumping up and down screaming about this. Fundamentally if it were to work I wouldn't see a problem with it so long as the person in question were paying for the relevant subscription, would you?

Bill C 19-06-2006 08:07
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by James Henry
Quote:
Originally Posted by unlimited
Because at this time 250 modems will only work for a subbed customer. The normal methods to change the mac address does not work on these modems. Therefor they are at this time nothing more than a blue doorstop to those that have not paid for one from NTL.


No one pm me asking how i know. I will not give out details on how to steal cable and therefor will be classed as one of those dogooders :Yikes: now there is a interesting perspective. :) unlimited as a dogooder :LOL:
Gah I only put in the bit about how service couldn't be guaranteed, I didn't want to be more specific :p:

You a dogooder, nah you aren't jumping up and down screaming about this. Fundamentally if it were to work I wouldn't see a problem with it so long as the person in question were paying for the relevant subscription, would you?
Not if it was to replace a legitimate paid for modem and the customer is paying for there service. Where i draw the line is theft of service, Then they should be boiled in oil for a week and then made to watch England 's last 2 games for a day :LOL:.

roseandjim 19-06-2006 08:52
Re: Modem = Bin?
 
It would be a hell of a lot more honest than someone deliberately breaking a modem to get a new one as I have read on here. Pity about the config thing though, I thought about that myself after I had posted.


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