No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I don't normally adorne my car/van with flags etc, but, I feel very aggreived when my company bans me from doing so!! Why have I got to remain impartial?? in my own country?? God help us...it would never happen in Australia or the US of A!!

"What will your uniform and vehicle look like during the world cup?


Please remember that:


you should not be displaying any form of national flag on your van

you should be wearing standard uniform and not football shirts at work
We'll all be supporting a number of countries at home over the coming weeks, but it's important that we remain impartial in work.

I would like to bring your attention to a statement made two thirds of the way down the publication. It is to do with flying flags on company vehicles in support of the World Cup. In essence this practice is not to happen and should it be already, please ask the relevant engineers to remove them from their vehicles. There is to be no exceptions.

"

Freakin PC w**k**s

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Well, it's not your van is it? Who is it you work for?

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

miserable sods - why can't you fly your country's flag. who is it offending???

in my opinion, in some ways, I connect this with showing respect to those who are fighting in Iraq and risking their lives for their country.

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he must work at ntl or telewest as it's under that forum section!

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I believe Womble works for ntl: Telewest.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Well, whatever spin they put on it, I can imagine a company not allowing flags on their vans for the simple reason that it doesn't look very professional.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Last world cup when I was at ntl we where allowed to go to the pub to watch the match's watched them also on large plasma's in the call centre and were allowed to wear footy shirts. I bought my last one to wear there especially.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I don't see the problem tbh - I personally can't stand the idea of wearing a uniform but, if your job requires you to wear one, then you shouldn't be wearing football shirts or whatever anyway.

As for the vans, I can understand why the company wouldn't want all different colours / flags flying - what if the stuff gets nicked? What if (for the sake of argument) England beat Paraguay, so some crazy Paraguayan takes offence and kicks the hell out of the van?

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And that ^^ as well :D

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

if the flag is presented nicely it can be made to not look unprofessional.

are they afraid of scaring away new customers? dont worry there are plenty of other reasons for customers to choose sky over ntl - unprofessional looking flags is the least of their worries.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

But working in a call centre, you don't often see the public. Womble is probably in a position where he does, so it's more important to present a professional image.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Errm how? It's not related to the job they do. Ergo unprofessional.

Also, what about people that don't support England but another team? Imagine a van with an Argentina flag rolling up for your new NTL install :D

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Bottom line is it increases fuel consumption, so while individuals can choose to take that on for their private vehicle, I can understand a company not wanting to 'subsidise' their employees indulgence?

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I'd assume only uk flags would be acceptable!

but they are interested in a professional image - they have an indian call centre with staff who aren't professional by my standards.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Are you joking?????

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This mob worried about looking professional?? O please!!

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I think if it's placed correctly it wont make excessive wind issues!

womble - I suggest you make all customers you visit in the next few weeks aware that you are working for a misable company who dont want to get into the spirit of the world cup.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

flags i can cope with, although i think they look pretty stupid... but they really shouldn't be wearing a football shirt at work.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Hang on though etc - the company I work for insist on me wearing a shirt and tie for work, so I'd never get away with wearing a football shirt. WHy should ntl / telewest be any different? I've just got my England badge on my tie, so that'll do me while I'm at work.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Our work shirts have just been swapped for england football shirts until the world cup (which btw the company provided :D )

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

If you role requires you to wear company uniform and drive a company vehicle. I.e. your customer facing, then it's perfectly acceptable for them to make this statement.

If, however, you are not cutomer facing and usually come into work wearing casual clothing then I can't see how they can restrict what you wear.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I'm only in favour of the flag not the shirt idea EXCEPT if we win the cup!

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Why should any company pay extra for anything, just because their employees want to indulge their own whims, fuel prices are at an all time high, carbon emissions are causing environmental changes - why would any company want to associate themselves with waste of resources, like this.

I am very definitely NOT joking.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Let's forget about the reasons for not allowing flags or footy tops to work for a minute. When you decide to work for any company there are rules they insist tehir employees follow. For example I hate to wear a tie, and suit and shoes to work, but if I dont my mortgage wont get paid after Ive been sacked for unprofessionalism at work.
Just because someone drives a van for most of his working day, and sees vans and cars all over london displaying an england flag, it doesn't mean you have the right to do so on your company's van.
Bitching to people about your company not wanting to get into the spirit of the world cup is a bit childish, either put up with it and display the falgs on your own car, wear the footy shirt in your own time, or if things are so bad, get a new job.

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I worked in an american bank based in the UK where we were not client facing, and did not see any external people during work. We had a casual clothing policy which excluded collarless shirts, shorts, clothing with logos, flip flops, etc etc...This was also the same in the MArks & Sparks Head office in London. So companies can make restrictions on clothoing and it is also perfectly acceptable to do so.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I think some people are taking this too seriously. and calling people childish isn't pleasant for such a trivial subject.

yes there's rules but this doesn't mean he cant have a good moan.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Sorry i was generalising, not directing the childish comment to anyone specifically. If my employees started slagging off my company to (potential) customers on the basis that I didnt let them fly a flag during the world cup, I'd definately have a word.

Feel free to have a good moan, we all do, but sometimes I feel people go to far in their moaning

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I can see where you're coming from. I guess it depends on your loyalty and where you are in the company and that companies reputation etc. right now NTL are laying off staff left right and centre, I'd think a bit of flag waving might be a good way of upping the workers spirits.

just so you know...
 

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I think companies would benefit a lot more from allowing 'flag waving' during the world cup than they would lose in fuel costs through lack of van fuel economy. The next few weeks will be generally buzzing all over Europe, and I just find people are much happier at work when they can take part in the celebrations/support etc etc. For example our company will be showing alot of the games on big projector screens in meeting rooms. Will this make us all lazy gits or mean we stop working just to see the games? Nope, what will happen is that we will work extra hard to meet the targets so we can finish off early.
HAving said that rules are rules, but sometimes not implemented with a bit of common sense.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Well the football shirt thing should go without saying, I'd be a bit confused if I asked for an engineer or w/e to come round and some guy turned up in casual clothes claiming he was an engineer so he could gain entry to my house.

The flags do look pretty shoddy aswell tbh, and not having them would stop any trouble having them would bring. (I'm assuming here they'd act as a help for breaking into a van/car)

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Then I am afraid you need to get a life!! The increase in fuel???? you are mad :-(

I also agree with the shirts being a step to far, but the flags, what a sad country we live in

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Yes, you could be right, but I may go to the "popular press" and make them aware of another unpatiotic company

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

That's a little harsh, and suggests another over-reaction on your part to be honest.

Another problem with the flags is the good old British weather - give them two weeks (or even the 9 days until the tournament starts) of our usual summer rain, and they'll just look ragged and, frankly, crap. It just wouldn't present a professional image to Joe Public :shrug:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Gissa a job, sounds like you company is fun to work for!!

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Another over reaction???? when was the first???

Harsh, extra cost in fuel, do me a favour

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The do pingpong balls for the ariels aswell

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Banning England shirts and flags on engineers and their vans is a very good thing IMO. I'm Welsh and certainly would find that intimidating, especially with the St George's flag being used by the BNP.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Well, in my opinion, you've over-reacted to the company saying that you can't put flags on the vans :shrug:

If you want to get down to basics, then Gaz is right - anything extra on a car / van will affect fuel consumption, which affects costs. Just because you don't agree doesn't mean that it's not right.

So? They can still look rubbish when they're covered in all the dirt and spray that can get kicked up from the road.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Thing is by waving the st george's flag at occassions such sporting events for example, you are in fact reclaiming it from the association with the BNP. If I saw a van driven around with a st georges flag partially obscuring an NTL logo (which are also prominent on the back of vans are they not?) the last thing I'd think is that the BNP are cruising the streets for some 'p**i bashing'.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

The shirts I can understand but I really don't see the harm in the flags

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Don't worry about it mate, I didn't mean a word of it - I just wanted to see who the first person would be who thought I actually meant it :D

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

That's fine they had certain restrictions.

What I was saying is if there are no restrictions normally, then to impose a ban specfically for the World Cup would be unreasonable

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Thankyou for your opinion of my sanity, perhaps you would like to point me to any references which show where increased wind resistance doesn't cause increased fuel consumption, in order to substantiate that opinion? ;)


As I said, a point you seem to have ignored, I have no problem with people exercising a right to fly a flag in their private car, but I don't see why their employer should pay increased fuel costs for similar use of a company vehicle. Should the employers be prepared to condone it, then I don't have a problem with that, either, I just think as it is their money, they have the right to spend it as they see fit...

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Trust me weeman - we know all about your sanity :PP:

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I am sorry I started this thread! Had I known what a bunch of sour faced old gits there was here I would have never started it


Homealone. Quote me the differance in fuel consuption for a van with flags and one with out!!! I would be very interested to see the results, no doubt some sado has done the research :) Pretty Please

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Sssshhh ;) - you might, but I was fooling everyone else, up till then :p: :D

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Nobody here's sour faced (and I'm not that old ;) ) - we just happen to disagree with you on this topic...

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

We need a 'sour face old git' smiley............

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

no denial of being gits though!

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Hey, there's no way I'd get away with denying that one :disturbd:

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Why do you disbelieve the concept that increased drag increases fuel consumption??

I'm not able to quantify it, but articles like this

http://www.jamjar.com/content/aboutu...ess160604.aspx

Mention that closing windows & not flying flags are one way to reduce fuel consumption.

The effect doesn't have to be massive on an individual van basis, but remember this thread is about running a fleet of vehicles - the cumulative effect of even small increases in fuel useage per van will add up across multiple vehicles. In my opinion this is a preventable cost I believe NTL are justified in preventing.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Who gives a **** about the BNP - it's the ENGLAND flag not the BNP flag, I know you're Welsh so it doesn't mean anything to you but imagine if someone said the same about your flag. Why can't we fly our own flag in our own country? (I know England isn't Wales before you say anything!)

Though NTL/TW onsite engineers having them added to their vans or uniform looks unprofessional so it is banned and rightly so. And I think it looks generally ****tish too but that's my opinion, nowt wrong with a flag in the window though.

What strikes me, is that any nationality can be patriotic but for some reason it's wrong when the English do.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Ahem, may I be the first to direct you to post 35 ;) :D

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...9&postcount=35

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I had seen that but felt the need to make my point regardless or whether or not Russ was joking :)

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Nice bit of hasty back-tracking ;) :angel:

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

NTL Senior management don't need to worry about professionalism. They messed that up years ago and continue to do so on a daily bases. I honestly feel NTL Senior management have lost the plot completely and this just cements that feeling.

As for the flags well sounds like "ankers" comes to mind.

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So what about the cheap tv, phone and broadband. Charge full price and save a engineers job.

Plus having had time now to read this thread through i honestly cannot believe some of the crazy half arsed answers that have come out to say why they support NTL Management in not allowing the members of staff in supporting there teams. God next you will agree with full outsourcing to India and demand the flying of Indian flags on the vans.


boy this site is going :nutter:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Are India in the world cup then??!!

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I dont think that would matter with NTL Management they get everything else wrong :LOL:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Forgod sake what is this world coming to I live in an estate full of asains etc. Now when the crickit season starts there all out with there flags specilly if they play england!!!!!!!! now I rember 1 year when this was so I had my england flag on car etc got stop from police and told to take it off and the asians were laughing at me This really ****ed me off becouse they had there flags etc banners you name it the police did f..kall about it I asked why they said they are not provoking any 1 now i laughed at this none provking officer now what you think there doing now to me he said there nothing i can do about it so i said well tell em take the flag down he said i cant so it all right for then to provoke me and i was clearly doing nothing but showing my pride for england I WILL DO THE SAME FOR WORLD CUP and i bet you the asians will have a moan at it WELL I SAY TUFF IT MY COUNTRY DONT LIKE BUGGER OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! ENGLAND FAN

Oh i have nothing against asains etc but they moan at everything we english do like that you cant say blackboard no more bloody sad it is :(

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Asian = brownish,
blackboard = black

I have yet to meet an asian thats protested about that one.

anyway thats a diff topic, but i will be proudly flyin my portuguese flag as soon as the world cup starts good and proper

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

:erm: For someone with nothing against asians, that was rather a vitriolic post!

Anyway, there's a difference between being told to take it off your car by the police (obviously taking into account the fact that you haven't actually told us why you were told to remove it), and a large national company wanting to maintain a professional image!

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I was told to take it off has it was offending the asians why i dont know have you try and get explination form a copper probly there were thinking i was trying to course a riot erm thats my guess but im not stupid i had my kids in back of the car this was just unberlivable how much they seam to get away with it Oh im from OLDHAM you rember the riots right i shall say no more.

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and like i say i have nothing against asians but they do get away with alot of things!!!!!!!!!!!!11

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

As long as

A. Your not in a NTL van
B. A employee of NTL

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Flags should be banned full stop on cars if you ask me, they look stupid (and even more so when England go out early on!).

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Funny enough, I was thinking about that inconsistency, when I posted, Bill, and I have to agree with you - especially as you are one of the engineers who should have been retained.

The issue of flags on houses & wearing team shirts I don't have a problem with, it is just my personal opinion that the ones on cars/vans look naff.

Fuel consumption was just one possible reason I though of, for why it would be discouraged by NTL - it wasn't intended to 'support' the decision, soz if it came over like that :)

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

OK i think im a bit carried away with the hole thing now but i shall say 1 more thing.(WHY CANT I BE ENGLISH AND PROUND AND not having to watch what i say in front of people from all walks of life???????????

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

So what if you're from Oldham? I'm from a town about 4 miles from Handsworth, and they were having riots twenty years ago - doesn't mean that I think all black Brummies are about to mug me, and ransack my house. Asians are no more likely (or just as likely, depending on your point of view ;) ) to be provoked by a flag as your average stereotypical skinhead :shrug:

Anyway, this is completely off-topic - I still fail to see what the problem is with this company 'banning' flags on their vans - at the end of the day, the vans are their property, so they can set whatever rules they want :)

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This hasn' got anything to do with being proud of your nationality - as far as I can see, it's do with maintaining a professional appearance for customer-facing staff :shrug:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

This is just another move to remove any morale that was left at NTL.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

The best post so far!! Bar none

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

/dons nomex vest

In my opinion this current craze for 'flying the flag' is not about being patriotic, it is more about 'mine is bigger than yours' :disturbd:

- which makes me glad I am half Welsh ;)

- what I mean, is that I am looking at this dispassionately, for now, as has been said, do English football supporters really want to make all this fuss, then, potentially get dumped at the group stage ???

I'm happy to be wrong, of course, but I may not be watching until they get to, at least, the quarter finals ;)

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Well, in fairness Bill, none of us know whether ntl are laying anything else on for their staff during the World Cup - the only thing we know is that staff can't put stuff on their vans.

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Fair enough - however, my employers aren't doing anything either, but I just accept it :shrug:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Absolute rubbish, your Welsh good for you, as for the BNP using the St Georges flag, well thats up to them. I'm using it to represent My country and i'm proud to show it. Talking about being intimidated by someone having a flag on there car is stupid.

Typical an Englishman wants to show his flag and as usual he's a racist, but on the other hand if your Welsh or Scottish, it's great to see a bit of pride and passion.

It's comments like that about the BNP ect is exactly why this happens all the time, because of peoples inability to see past this.

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Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

May I again be the first to re-direct you to post 35 ;)

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...9&postcount=35

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

My van(Ntl) has just had the flags of every country playing in the world cup painted on either side.The front and back of the van have been given goal posts.My dashboard has been fitted with a 26" Lcd so i dont miss a game and in the side of the van i now have a large fridge to keep my beers cold.As for uniform,we have all been given the opportunity to wear the full kit(inc shorts ,t-shirts and even socks) of any team we choose.

Carlsberg dont do telecommunications companys,but im sure if they did.............:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

:nutter: :Peaceman:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Pretty much proves that people don't read what they don't want to read ;)

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

LMAO!!! :rofl:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Even though its not really helping I believe the only people who actually keep PC going is the people who complain about it.

So we can't say 'blackboard' anymore. Would you like to tell me, who exactly in the real word isn't going to say it? And who is telling us we cannot say it?

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

I say it, everyone else i know says it... It's like whiteboard, i deliberaelty take offence to it if someone has corrected me on blackboard that day. It's stupid... what next Bah Bah rainbow sheep?

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

watch out for your woggle ;)

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

What the? English please? lol

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Now don't go scaring horses with ya'flags :nono: link

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Sent to me by a friend!!!!

DEPT OF TRANSPORT INITIATIVE, MAY 2006.

Information Release.

Due to the nature of the quality of driving in England the Department of Transport has now devised a new scheme in order to identify poor drivers and give good drivers the opportunity to recognise them whilst driving.

For this reason as from the middle of May 2006 those drivers who are found to be driving badly which includes:

-overtaking in dangerous places;
-hovering within one inch of the car in front; -stopping sharply;
-speeding in residential areas; -pulling out without indication;
-performing U turns inappropriately in busy high streets; -under taking on motorways and -taking up more than one lane in multi lane roads,

These drivers will be issued with flags, white with a red cross, signifying their inability to drive properly. These flags must be clipped to a door of the car and be visible to all other drivers and pedestrians.

Those drivers who have shown particularly poor driving skills will have to display a flag on each side of the car to indicate their greater lack of skill and general lower intelligence mindset to the general public.

Please circulate this to as many other motorists as you can so that drivers and pedestrians will be aware of the meaning of these flags.

Department of Transport.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Should be in humour, and it has already been posted ;)

None-the-less, lovely joke :D

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

It's in another thread, but, courtesy of Mal, here you go:

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...3&postcount=30

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Glad to be of service ;)

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Claimed.... no evidence!!


We (NTL) made the Sun paper :-)

A spoksmen for NTL said
" In case they offend Muslims. We work in many multi-cultural areas and in differant counties within Britain, so we want to maintain a professional image and remain impartial"

what a load of b.o.l.l.o.c.k..s, bloody do-gooders strike again, offend people cos I fly my colours :mad: :mad:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

if that's the reason why then I'd fly the flag on an NTL van as that's a disgraceful excuse. would the same rules apply in pakistan? would they not fly their flags in case they upset christians in their country?

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006250446,00.html

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that is patronising to muslims who WANT to be integrated and offensive to me. it also reinforces the us and them attitudes that the BNP feed on.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I suppose you could send the researcher an email asking for the calculations, so you can check them. His name and affiliation are in the article.

Hmm, from Etc's quote I notice that the reference to Muslisms is not actually from the NTL spokesman, but is inferred by the author of the article. I think you want to be a little more precise with your quotes.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

For your information, mine was copied from the paper, word for word, so it IS precise!!

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

I know, you could go & work for Ferrari - telling them that the laws of physics no longer apply & that they can get rid of their aerodynamics team, scrap the wind tunnel & design the cars how they like, because drag is no longer applicable, will save them millions. ;)

When did wind resistance cease to be a factor in fuel consumption, by the way, I'm sorry that I missed it - perhaps you could provide a link, even one with no 'evidence' will do, thanks ;)

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Killjoys at cable giant NTL are among the latest party-poopers †� ordering van drivers and subcontractors to tear down their flags in case they offend Muslims.

One shocked driver said: †œIf weââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢re seen with any flags on our vans weââ‚ ¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢ll be given a written warning.ââ‚à ƒâ€šÃ‚¬Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ÂÂ�

The company insisted: †œWe work in many multicultural areas and in different countries within Britain so we want to maintain a professional image and a sense of impartiality.â↚¬ÂÂ�


Thats the full quote above, I bring you attention to "We work in many multicultural areas", what has that got to do with anything, I work in England....period

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Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Er, doesn't mean it's not multicultural, does it? Anyway, the quote from the company states that they want to maintain a 'sense of impartiality' - maybe they don't want to offend any Swedes, Paraguayans, Trinidadians or Toboggans (or whatever the derivative of Tobago is ;) )

Same thing again - just 'cos you don't agree with it doesn't mean it's not right.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Sorry, that link doesn't work, did you try Google?

Actually, thinking about it, if wind resistance isn't a factor, any more, doesn't that mean parachutes won't work - I think you should be contacting the MOD, there might be a nasty accident ;)

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

as far as I'm aware of religion doesn't dictate what flag you relate to.

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Wonder who Chris Birchall supports - born in Stoke (white) but plays for trinidad and tobago :D

Re: Banned from flying my Flag
 

Probably Togo :D

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

If you came to my door with that flag on your Van id probably try and re-book an appointment.

I dont want some working class, riff raff in my house.

You might try and steal the cuttlery.

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Yeah, 'cos the middle classes can spell cutlery ;) :PP:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

would you tell them to fork off then?

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Does that come after the spooning :disturbd:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

The Nuggmeister is in the house!! :D

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

:wavey:

Sorry it's taken a while - I've had the dentist in my gob up to his elbow this morning :disturbd:

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

thanks for flagging that information up to us. what a pretty picture you paint.

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I hope NTL are also aware that some muslims are white as well - have they factored that into their PC agenda?

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

Well, it felt like he used a flagpole for the injection - does that count :D

Re: No flags allowed on ntl/TW vans
 

That has to be quote of the month :rofl: