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Frank

26-05-2006 05:38

ntl online dating

So ntl have launched a new dating website in the last couple of days in partnership with DatingDirect...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/article/...dating-service

What does everyone think? Money well spent, or would your money be better invested in keeping network capacity in line with subscriber demand? Or perhaps, dare I say it, more traffic shaping equipment in readiness to stick that clause back in :rolleyes:

Druchii

26-05-2006 05:42

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Oh god, i can see it now... "Come and join the NTL dating thing, your pictures are down, your profile text is missing and the only thing listed is your age" of course things will obviously clear up with promised upgrades etc...

Since when has a cablo co. ever done well with this kind of thing though? Doesn't seem right.

Paul	26-05-2006 08:03

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Seems a very odd thing to branch out into.

Neil	26-05-2006 08:37

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Originally Posted by Paul M

Seems a very odd thing to branch out into.

ntl=Jack of all trades, master of none.

Graham M

26-05-2006 08:41

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That about Nails it Neil :)

jtwn	26-05-2006 09:41

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Money well spent? Don't you think it would be DatingDirect.com giving money to ntl?

orangebird

26-05-2006 09:44

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Money well spent? Don't you think it would be DatingDirect.com giving money to ntl?

Exactly. I'm sure any money and time taken up with this project was at Datingdirects expense, not ntls... :rolleyes:

Still, any chance to **** and moan about ntl's a good'un. :dozey:

akane1984

26-05-2006 09:45

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its funny as my friend just started up his own site this week ..www.loveanddesire.co.uk

now ntl is starting up lol

Timeless Stew

26-05-2006 09:55

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Has anyone tried the site?

It's swinging London!

You can have a different babe/bloke (take your pick) every night with minimal effort... there is plenty on offer...almost everyone is divorced and ready to play...

ben1390

26-05-2006 11:58

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NTL would of been better off spending their money on things like more and better interactive content, digital teletext and as Frank said "keeping network capacity in line with subscriber demand"!!!

orangebird

26-05-2006 12:06

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Originally Posted by topcreator

NTL would of been better off spending their money on things like more and better interactive content, digital teletext and as Frank said "keeping network capacity in line with subscriber demand"!!!

But I very much doubt ntl actually did spend any money on this...

ben1390

26-05-2006 12:08

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Originally Posted by orangebird

But I very much doubt ntl actually did spend any money on this...

Maybe

Bill C

26-05-2006 12:10

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Originally Posted by topcreator

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Originally Posted by orangebird

But I very much doubt ntl actually did spend any money on this...

Maybe

So i take it its a "dig at NTL because we can type of post is it"

This will be making money for NTL not losing money. But that does not make good news does it. Stick that in your anti NTL pipe and smoke it :p:.

gaffer_gump

26-05-2006 12:16

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0o0 /me joins up and gets me brushed velvert pulling pants on, get ready ladies imma ripe for luvve :cool:

georgepomone

26-05-2006 13:36

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Hi All,
if you don't like the one you get just change to another Proxy.
Regards, George.

TheBlueRaja

26-05-2006 14:29

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NTL online dating, is that a new method to match you up with an Engineer who turns up?

Hi my names John an engineer from Sollihull, i can do Tuesday between 12pm and 4pm, i have my own car and a biiiiig toolbox.

If your interested, send a mail to johnsbigtoolbox@hotmail.com (my NTL mail dosent work), and i'll see if i can "fit you in".

Frank

26-05-2006 16:49

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Originally Posted by orangebird

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Money well spent? Don't you think it would be DatingDirect.com giving money to ntl?

Exactly. I'm sure any money and time taken up with this project was at Datingdirects expense, not ntls... :rolleyes:

And I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you are talking about. Content costs money, and DatingDirect aren't going to be giving away their content for free, especially as it is rebranded as ntl's content. Do you seriously think that white label providers pay partners to give their services away??? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by orangebird

Still, any chance to **** and moan about ntl's a good'un. :dozey:

I will quite happily admit that when I wrote the article I was extremely annoyed at ntl's failure to live up their part of an agreement that we have with them to provide information about new products and services. Of course, if you think that dating is a core part of the service then there isn't really much more I can say, is there?

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Originally Posted by unlimited

This will be making money for NTL not losing money. But that does not make good news does it. Stick that in your anti NTL pipe and smoke it :p:.

Indeed, please do stick that in your pipe and smoke it :)

jtwn	26-05-2006 17:14

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And I'm pretty sure you have no idea what you are talking about. Content costs money, and DatingDirect aren't going to be giving away their content for free, especially as it is rebranded as ntl's content. Do you seriously think that white label providers pay partners to give their services away???

Rebranded eh?

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1148656158

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1148656158

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/at...1&d=1148656461

http://www.ntlworld.com/scripts/redi..._zone=7669.8.2

Hopefully the link works here, but press it and see where it takes you :)

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Wow, how can people get so wound up over such things. Although I did find it mildly amusing, at least we know why its like that :)

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Indeed, please do stick that in your pipe and smoke it :)

Hope you enjoyed my post :)

ben1390

26-05-2006 17:19

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Originally Posted by georgepomone

Hi All,
if you don't like the one you get just change to another Proxy.
Regards, George.

How do you do that? (BTW i have a Samsung STB if that helps)

slowcoach

26-05-2006 17:40

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Hey, don't knock it.
You can sign up for free, I have 26 nubiles lined up for tonight. :p:

gazzae

26-05-2006 17:42

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Doesn't work very well. Apparently Chester is within 5 miles of Belfast!

Escapee

26-05-2006 18:32

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Originally Posted by gazzae

Doesn't work very well. Apparently Chester is within 5 miles of Belfast!

Not only that because in my experience you get phantom messages from that website, with photos of lovely women claiming to be in your area. you are then expected to join to read the messages.

Also women are contacted and offered a payment for every message they send guys, I know a woman who had joined a few and after a period was asked to do that.

I had a period of dating site fun, and that is about the most useless of the lot.

Chrysalis

26-05-2006 19:22

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If its free for stuff that dating direct normally charges for then I expect ntl have paid for it, if its chargeable as normal this is a money maker for ntl.

These dating sites I have tried datingdirect :( and yeah it allows you to search for free but even if you pay then if you send messages to free members they have to signup to recieve your messages so essentially signing up doesnt allow you to send messages to anyone you like but only to other paid up members, I think the free members are there just to boost the numbers but dont really get a service.

I doubt this has any bearing on funds used for other stuff such as upgrades, the costs involved are likely just changing the website and possibility of a fee paid to datingdirect but I bet ntl will get commision for signups originating from their site.

opelfruitcase

26-05-2006 19:48

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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja

But if somebody forgets to book the appointment then the poor customer will get stood up! :D

Frank

26-05-2006 19:55

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Rebranded eh?

Okay, we can argue semantics all day, but your own screenshots show a big ntlworld logo at the top of the page. Perhaps branded is more appropriate than rebranded if you want to quibble. Clearly the content has some DatingDirect branding, but is also contained on ntlworld.com. Most people are aware that you can't just take content from another site without paying for it, whether it's rebranded or branded...

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Originally Posted by jtwn

http://www.ntlworld.com/scripts/redi..._zone=7669.8.2

Hopefully the link works here, but press it and see where it takes you :)

Not sure what link you are looking at, but I am looking at the URL http://app8.datingdirect.com/searchh...searchhome.asp which is ntl branded and sitting on a DatingDirect server (see attached). If you still insist that DD paid ntl and not vice versa for this then I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Wow, how can people get so wound up over such things. Although I did find it mildly amusing, at least we know why its like that :)

Since you know nothing about our relationship with ntl, and what they have agreed to do, I don't really see how you can judge whether I am justified in getting wound up. I've been judged by many people for a long time since originally starting nthw, so one more doesn't really make any difference. And as I am all for openness, I had no problem telling you why my article was like it was. Shame ntl aren't so open eh?

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Hope you enjoyed my post :)

Certainly did, you went to quite a lot of trouble to highlight various parts of ntlworld.com and argue your case. Just think, we are mildly amusing each other now.

sarahlouise45

26-05-2006 19:55

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NTL dating? HAHAHA - It's all a load of ********!!!

Frank

26-05-2006 19:59

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Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I doubt this has any bearing on funds used for other stuff such as upgrades, the costs involved are likely just changing the website and possibility of a fee paid to datingdirect but I bet ntl will get commision for signups originating from their site.

For sure, costs for things like this come out of the ntlworld content budget which if of course competely separate from any budget allocated to network spending. However, it is quite frustrating when you see money being spent on things like this but read of network problems day after day in the broadband forum. And yes, I'm sure ntl will get commission for signups coming from ntlworld.com :)

jtwn	26-05-2006 20:03

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Originally Posted by Frank

OK, I'll walk you through it.

http://www.ntlworld.com/dating/

Click 'Find love online today'

Scroll down

Click 'Find love online now with Dating Direct'

In fact all of the links in the text on that page lead to datingdirect.com.

Your right we can argue technicalities all day but I'm only saying whats is there, in black and white.

spiderplant

26-05-2006 21:23

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Originally Posted by Frank

I don't know the details of your agreement with ntl, but maybe this wasn't considered worth telling you about. To me the datingdirect link doesn't look substantially different from HMV or William Hill or any other ad link on ntlworld.com. Are ntl really expected to tell you about every advertising deal they do?

If the datingdirect deal was considered newsworthy, I'd also expect to see a press release. But I don't.

All the same, well done to CF for plugging it :tu:

Jules

26-05-2006 21:49

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Do you think I will need a hat for a forum wedding :D

swanny

26-05-2006 22:51

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Will this speed up the arrival of HD? :dozey:

Kliro

30-05-2006 16:00

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There's some right munters on that site..

sarahlouise45

03-06-2006 17:23

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Originally Posted by Kliro

There's some right munters on that site..

There always are on ANY site like that!!! :D

kibblerok

03-06-2006 18:15

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Don't see the problem here... its just an advanced affiliate scheme. ntl are probably getting a fair slice of the money when someone signs up through their site.

Timeless Stew

03-06-2006 18:40

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Originally Posted by swanny

Will this speed up the arrival of HD? :dozey:

Directddating does speed things up, see for example

http://app7.datingdirect.com/public/...mCountryId=220

So, indeed, there is hope that it will speed up the arrival of HD :dozey:

justamin

17-06-2006 08:02

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Hmm well now if you have any complaints about the date who do you ring CSR'S???

I can see it now, hey that girl you sent last night I ordered a blond she wasn't, well lets pass you on to faults,

Soory sir we can send a Tec out with hair dye, we do have a space next week, will that be 8 till 12 or 1 till 6..

or even worse when the call centers move to india, try explaining whats wrong then...

NTL dates a sure way to screw up your weekend..

is this a legal way to pimp????

Argster

22-06-2006 17:46

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Or it's a date with that huge NTL cable technician who will strut his stuff on your carpet:)

Hugh	22-06-2006 17:57

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Originally Posted by justamin

Hmm well now if you have any complaints about the date who do you ring CSR'S???
I can see it now, hey that girl you sent last night I ordered a blond she wasn't, well lets pass you on to faults,
Soory sir we can send a Tec out with hair dye, we do have a space next week, will that be 8 till 12 or 1 till 6..
or even worse when the call centers move to india, try explaining whats wrong then...
NTL dates a sure way to screw up your weekend..
is this a legal way to pimp????

So the complaint could be as follows -
She didn't come when she said she would.
When she turned up, I didn't get the bandwidth I expected.
When I asked how much to upgrade for extra services, she slapped me.

Only joking, post-modern deconstruction taking place here :monkey:

Jules

22-06-2006 18:20

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Originally Posted by Argster

Or it's a date with that huge NTL cable technician who will strut his stuff on your carpet:)

Sounds good to me :naughty:

Argster

23-06-2006 10:04

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Originally Posted by Jules

Sounds good to me :naughty:

dude, it was just disgusting. I was cleaning the mess for weeks. It felt that something dies and being decomposing for weeks in there.

And the bitter comment from the girlfriend: Next time you bring your mates over after footy, make sure they don't wear their football boots..

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