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Ramrod 05-05-2006 11:42

Electronic book questions
 
Hi all. I'm thinking of getting a e-book type thingy and I thought I'd ask for your thoughts on the matter.
it needs to be have:
-built in wi-fi
-be able to read pdf files
-reasonably small
-web browsing
-doesn't need to have a keyboard but some sort of input method is needed.
-connectable to my PC
I don't know if I should be looking at a palm pilot type thingy, or the new microsoft thingy or just a very small lappy...........all ideas/suggestions appreciated :)

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Forgot to mention.....I need to be able to make notes on it as well......i.e. annotate the stuff I am reading on it......

Aragorn 05-05-2006 11:44

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Is the screen on an iPaq too small?

The latest iPaq's tick all your boxes - I use mine to read both MS Reader e-books and pdf files. Used to use it when reading Narnia to the kids as I have them as e-books.

Ramrod 05-05-2006 11:47

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn
Is the screen on an iPaq too small?

The latest iPaq's tick all your boxes - I use mine to read both MS Reader e-books and pdf files. Used to use it when reading Narnia to the kids as I have them as e-books.

I'll have a look at that...........any thoughts on a pocket pc or a xda type thingy?


edit....I see that the ipaq is a pocket pc! :D

bopdude 05-05-2006 11:51

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Why not go the whole hog and get a text to speech prog in case you can't be bothered to read yourself or are on the move, nice set of headphones...Bob's ya uncle :shrug:

Ramrod 05-05-2006 11:55

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Why not go the whole hog and get a text to speech prog in case you can't be bothered to read yourself or are on the move, nice set of headphones...Bob's ya uncle :shrug:

It's a nice idea but I first need to wade through this jungle of technology.....:disturbd:

bopdude 05-05-2006 11:59

Re: Electronic book questions
 
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Originally Posted by Ramrod
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Why not go the whole hog and get a text to speech prog in case you can't be bothered to read yourself or are on the move, nice set of headphones...Bob's ya uncle :shrug:

It's a nice idea but I first need to wade through this jungle of technology.....:disturbd:

Ok, to help you more, tell us what sort of inviroment your gonna be using this piece of kit in, home / work / travel, is it for you or for the benifit of others, i.e. kids stories :shrug:
And do you want to be able to multi-task or just read books........soooo many questions. ;)

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Just re-read your first post, you want to be able to edit the books :confused:

handyman 05-05-2006 12:25

Re: Electronic book questions
 
You might want to look at a xda mins s. It can do pdf, has a good screen and a small keyboard. I would have thought that it would work with a bluetooth keyboard for something a bit more substantial to type on.

Also another product to look at would be a fly book, they are around £1300 and even Terry Wogan has one ;)

Ramrod 05-05-2006 13:39

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
Ok, to help you more, tell us what sort of inviroment your gonna be using this piece of kit in, home / work / travel, is it for you or for the benifit of others, i.e. kids stories :shrug:
And do you want to be able to multi-task or just read books........soooo many questions. ;)

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Just re-read your first post, you want to be able to edit the books :confused:

Annotate pdf's and books............it's for my research. I need to be able to pull stuff off the web (via my wireless router) or at a pinch load stuff onto it from my pc and then read and make notes on it. I'm getting tired of having to sit at my pc for hours reading research papers when I could be relaxing in bed reading research papers.....
It would be handy if it had a USB socket on it as well....for my USB pen drive.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman
Also another product to look at would be a fly book, they are around £1300 and even Terry Wogan has one ;)

A 'fly book' sounds interesting but I'd have a problem convincing my financial controller to let me buy one :D

Aragorn 05-05-2006 13:51

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Sounds like a tablet PC would be ideal - big screen, USB & Wireless, pen - but probably out of budget, which brings you back to a pocket PC (doesn't have USB, but most have SD slots and will dock with your desktop).

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HP tablets start at £950 + vat!

bopdude 05-05-2006 13:54

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn
Sounds like a tablet PC would be ideal - big screen, USB & Wireless, pen - but probably out of budget, which brings you back to a pocket PC (doesn't have USB, but most have SD slots and will dock with your desktop).

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HP tablets start at £950 + vat!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
or just a very small lappy...........all ideas/suggestions appreciated :)

I think you might have answered your own question in the first post :D might be the more practicable option :shrug:

Ramrod 05-05-2006 13:56

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aragorn
Sounds like a tablet PC would be ideal - big screen, USB & Wireless, pen - but probably out of budget, which brings you back to a pocket PC (doesn't have USB, but most have SD slots and will dock with your desktop).

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HP tablets start at £950 + vat!

For that price I may as well get a flybook!....and I know my financial controller would want one of those!:disturbd: :D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
I think you might have answered your own question in the first post :D might be the more practable option :shrug:

.....and expensive!

bopdude 05-05-2006 13:58

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod



Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
I think you might have answered your own question in the first post :D might be the more practicable option :shrug:

.....and expensive!

You could get a low end lappy cheap enough and it would still be better than a ppc or the likes....I think, and cheaper :shrug:

Aragorn 05-05-2006 14:03

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Novatech sell some laptops in the 400 - 500 price range (£490 + del). Might find a refurbed brand even cheaper.

Ramrod 05-05-2006 14:05

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Hmmm............some sort of pda/xda sixed thing would be best for size and ease of use.....making notes on etc....lappy/flybook/tablet all need rather lengthy bootup times. I need this to be as functional as possible whilst being nearly as easy to use as a book.

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I'm going to bluewater tomorrow so I'll have a mooch in Dixons etc...

TheBlueRaja 05-05-2006 14:44

Re: Electronic book questions
 
What about that new thing that Microsoft released the other week - that origami project thing.

http://www.engadget.com/2006/02/24/m...igami-project/
http://www.origamiproject.com/

Isnt this kind off what you looking for?

No idea about the price though bud!

Also have a look here:-

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/umpc/default.mspx

KingPhoenix 05-05-2006 15:12

Re: Electronic book questions
 
A pocket PC isnt gonna be that easy to use, unless you get a blue tooth wireless laser keyboard to go with it ;)... as you will have a keyboard the size of the screen to use your stylus on...... so quick notes wouldnt be possible in all fairness..... Id recommend an iPaq... i have a 5550 and a 6550... both extremely good... both have wi-fi and the 5550 has a biometric scanner instead of pin for activating it :D

Ramrod 05-05-2006 18:53

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Do those have touchscreen/handwriting recognition and a USB port?

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Does anyone have any comments about the offerings from Palm?

Gareth 05-05-2006 21:59

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Have a look at some of the stuff here... http://www.paperbackpc.com/

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If the ones above are funky but not functional, how about this...

http://gp2x.co.uk/aboutgp2x.html

Quote:

OK. We will try to keep it simple.

To sum up the GP2X:

It can play games. It can play your Movies. It can play your music. It can view photos. It can read Ebooks. It runs on just 2 AA batteries - And it can do all this in the palm of your hand or on your TV screen.

Yes that's right, this handheld can connect to the TV, console style. Watch your DivX movies on the TV. Play emulated classics on the TV. Try big screen Quake. Or just play them all on the GP2X's large 320*240 backlit screen. You get the best of both worlds.

It runs the free Linux operating system. This means a whole world of Games, Utilities and Emulators are at your disposal. Quake, Doom, SNES, Megadrive, MAME, Media players and Applications to name just a few.

It's powerful - Two 200mhz CPU's with 64meg of RAM, custom graphics hardware and decoding chips. Takes SD cards and has 64M of NAND memory. Plenty to play with. One of the most powerful and advanced handhelds today.

That means it can play movies without any re-encoding. Just put them onto an SD card. Any size. Any resolution. No messing about. The GP2X scaling chip will resize to fit the screen. No other handheld can do that.

It's cheap. Just £124.99 .

Ramrod 06-05-2006 00:32

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth
Have a look at some of the stuff here... http://www.paperbackpc.com/

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If the ones above are funky but not functional, how about this...

http://gp2x.co.uk/aboutgp2x.html

Interesting, but the first has terrible reviews and the second, while very nice, doesn't have wi-fi but seems fine otherwise....I like the 2.0 usb.....but it doesn't appear to have any input method like keyboard or stylus....but otherwise it's great! I love it.....shame it's missing some stuff....

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Does anyone have any comments on the Palm Lifedrive?

Ramrod 07-05-2006 16:46

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Well I got a palm life drive yesterday. Lovely piece of kit! 4gig of memory, built in wifi and bluetooth......connected to my wireless router effortlessly..........easy to use........and it wouldn't bluddy well install on my XP64 PC :mad:
So back it went to John Lewis.....:rolleyes:
lifedrive=early adopter/gadget freak
64bit os=early adopter/gadget freak
........so why don't palm have 64bit drivers....or a workaround ffs?

Next?!:dozey:

Shaun 07-05-2006 17:01

Re: Electronic book questions
 
I love my X30 from Dell. Not their newest Pocket PC (so their newer ones may have a better spec) but does everything you want except it doesn't have a USB port for your pen drive but it does take an SD card for storing your research on.

I have the fold-able keyboard with it that plus into the bottom for when I need to sit and do some serious typing but I find the stylus o.k. for short notes or emails.

It has Wifi and Bluetooth, runs Adobe Acrobat very well and handles even large PDF files (600+ pages) with relative ease.

My only gripe is that Windows Mobile 2003 sometimes crashes it but that's a software issue rather than one with the hardware.

I really like the landscape mode too which allows you to read files and web pages easier.

It comes with pocket Word, Excel, and Outlook so you can use it to update your appointments and emails while out of the office.

Seems to tick most of the boxes that you have - my only reservations on recommending it is Dells ****ty customer service. :(

Ramrod 07-05-2006 18:06

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Tnx for the input m8. I have been looking at the DELLs and I wonder if they are 64bit compatable? My only gripe with all the handhelds is the lack of memory......the lifedrive has 4gig! It makes the rest of them look lame by comparison!
The Fujitsu Siemens POCKET LOOX 520 MN5UK 256MB looks nice and has has 802.11g wifi but not 4gig of memory........:(

Shaun 07-05-2006 18:31

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Tnx for the input m8. I have been looking at the DELLs and I wonder if they are 64bit compatable? My only gripe with all the handhelds is the lack of memory......the lifedrive has 4gig! It makes the rest of them look lame by comparison!
The Fujitsu Siemens POCKET LOOX 520 MN5UK 256MB looks nice and has has 802.11g wifi but not 4gig of memory........:(

Let me just look at Dells support site for a 64bit driver.....as for the storage, just pick up a couple of 1GB SD cards, that's what I have. :)

Edit - cant actually see any info on them having a 64bit driver but this site may be your best bet for info:

http://www.aximsite.com/x30review/

There's a good review in the link too. :)

Ramrod 07-05-2006 23:00

Re: Electronic book questions
 
OK.......I've found exactly what I need.....the slimbook a120 :disturbd:
........just one slight snagoops:

Druchii 07-05-2006 23:10

Re: Electronic book questions
 
1.7k ? Ouch...

Ramrod 07-05-2006 23:16

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii
1.7k ? Ouch...

Yep.....that'll never get past my financial controller:dozey: :D
..........nice bit of kit though.....

Druchii 07-05-2006 23:17

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Yep.....that'll never get past my financial controller:dozey: :D ..........nice bit of kit though.....

Correct, absolutely lovely... When i win the lottery... haha...

homealone 07-05-2006 23:23

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Interesting that the Apple Newton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton

which would seem similar to what Ramrod wants, never took off.

Mrs Gaz tried one out, once, it was pretty neat, but a while ago, so a bit heavy ;)

Ramrod 07-05-2006 23:28

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
Interesting that the Apple Newton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Newton

which would seem similar to what Ramrod wants, never took off.

Mrs Gaz tried one out, once, it was pretty neat, but a while ago, so a bit heavy ;)

I remember that! Especially the logo!:tu: :)
btw......If anyone here is in the market for a PDA I urge you to get the lifedrive from palm....the only downside is that it uses 802.11b rather than g wifi........otherwise it's brilliant!
........and it isn't very 64bit compatable :(

handyman 07-05-2006 23:29

Re: Electronic book questions
 
What about one of these .

Simply use 2 gig sd cards with it. It has wireless and probably better chance of xp64bit drivers.

Or you could ditch xp 64bit then most things will work.

homealone 07-05-2006 23:39

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman

Or you could ditch xp 64bit then most things will work.

I was thinking that, but then the twin core cpu, sata raid type stuff would be slower - can he cope? ;)

bopdude 08-05-2006 08:30

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Druchii
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Yep.....that'll never get past my financial controller:dozey: :D ..........nice bit of kit though.....

Correct, absolutely lovely... When i win the lottery... haha...

But you need one for buisness use, don't you :rolleyes: :D and of course at that price it would be crazy not to make use of it for pleasure as well :dozey: :erm: :D

Buy and be damned, argue with the tax man at year end :tu:

Ramrod 08-05-2006 08:46

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
But you need one for buisness use, don't you :rolleyes: :D and of course at that price it would be crazy not to make use of it for pleasure as well :dozey: :erm: :D

Buy and be damned, argue with the tax man at year end :tu:

The tax man wouldn't have a problem with it......it's Mandy who has a problem with it!:D

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Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman
What about one of these .

Simply use 2 gig sd cards with it. It has wireless and probably better chance of xp64bit drivers.

Or you could ditch xp 64bit then most things will work.

Thats a nice bit of kit but my requirements have been upgraded.....I'd like it to have 802.11g wi-fi :D
.........and I really can't be ars*d to reformat my PC back to 32bit now :disturbd:

bopdude 08-05-2006 10:20

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Quote:

Originally Posted by bopdude
But you need one for buisness use, don't you :rolleyes: :D and of course at that price it would be crazy not to make use of it for pleasure as well :dozey: :erm: :D

Buy and be damned, argue with the tax man at year end :tu:

The tax man wouldn't have a problem with it......it's Mandy who has a problem with it!:D

Thats what I mean, surely if it was bought for :erm: buisness ;) it wouldn't be a problem :D

zing_deleted 08-05-2006 10:31

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by handyman
What about one of these .

Simply use 2 gig sd cards with it. It has wireless and probably better chance of xp64bit drivers.

Or you could ditch xp 64bit then most things will work.

pocket pcs use microsoft active sync to connect not a driver per say ,however my smart phone does sync but I cant browse. But im happy dual booting anyway :)

Ramrod 08-05-2006 10:37

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
pocket pcs use microsoft active sync to connect not a driver per say ,however my smart phone does sync but I cant browse. But im happy dual booting anyway :)

Will 'active sync' run on 64bit?

zing_deleted 08-05-2006 10:39

Re: Electronic book questions
 
well it does for the most part but not fully

Ramrod 08-05-2006 11:15

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zinglebarb
well it does for the most part but not fully

What will/won't it do?

KingPhoenix 08-05-2006 12:58

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Activesync 4.1 seems to work ok on my smartphone and PDA's on 64 bit (havent booted into it for a while mind)

Its also listed as a supported OS on the activesync download site...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Ramrod 08-05-2006 14:22

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by KingPhoenix
Activesync 4.1 seems to work ok on my smartphone and PDA's on 64 bit (havent booted into it for a while mind)

Its also listed as a supported OS on the activesync download site...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...DisplayLang=en

Kewl....:tu: :) ......thats also what Dells indian tech support said :erm: :D
I'm considering the Dell axim X51v as it's got a good processor and a big screen. Shame it's only got 802.11b wifi but I suppose you can't have everything in one package.....what do you think?

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.....btw.........anyone got any suggestions for good, quick 2gig flash cards for this thing.........or any ideas for storage options?

Ramrod 08-05-2006 17:05

Re: Electronic book questions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
.....btw.........anyone got any suggestions for good, quick 2gig flash cards for this thing.........or any ideas for storage options?

Scratch that.....crucial do 4gig compact flash cards that look like they fit the bill.....


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