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Paul K 11-04-2006 10:39
MS Updates today
 
Don't forget to keep an eye on your updates later today.
Quote:
On 11 April 2006 Microsoft is planning to release:

Security Updates
†¢ Four Microsoft Security Bulletin affecting Microsoft Windows. The highest Maximum Severity rating for these is Critical. Some of these updates will require a restart. These updates will be detectable using the Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer and the Enterprise Scan Tool. One of the updates will be a cumulative Internet Explorer update that addresses the publicly known "CreateTextRange" vulnerability.

†¢ One Microsoft Security Bulletin affecting Microsoft Office and Microsoft Windows. The highest Maximum Severity rating for this is Moderate. These updates may require a restart. These updates will be detectable using the Microsoft Baseline Security Analyzer and the Enterprise Scanning Tool.


Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool

†¢ Microsoft will release an updated version of the Microsoft Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool on Windows Update, Microsoft Update, Windows Server Update Services and the Download Center.

Note that this tool will NOT be distributed using Software Update Services (SUS).

Non-security High Priority updates on MU, WU, WSUS and SUS

†¢ Microsoft will not release any NON-SECURITY High-Priority Updates for Windows on Windows Update (WU) and Software Update Services (SUS).

†¢ Microsoft will release one NON-SECURITY High-Priority Updates on Microsoft Update (MU) and Windows Server Update Services (WSUS).

Paul K 11-04-2006 18:41
Re: MS Updates today
 
Updates are out on the servers everyone :)

snowey 11-04-2006 19:05
Re: MS Updates today
 
:tu: Got them Paul, 5mins ago...:) :)

DES_1001 11-04-2006 20:20
Re: MS Updates today
 
thanks paul, all done

MadGamer 11-04-2006 21:25
Re: MS Updates today
 
Im upto date

grubbymitts 11-04-2006 21:26
Re: MS Updates today
 
I think there maybe a bug on this update that messes a few progs up. Update went okay and then two hours later Findfast (crappy office util I really should have dropped ages ago but am too idle) was doing its two hourly thing and wanted access to Verifyclass ID. Well, it's never asked that so I promptly denied it. I ran adaware just in case and when I exited that it also asked for access to Verifyclass ID. Nothing else has so far, so I think it may have been a glitch, but very annoying.

Findfast is now off my pc - I suppose some good came out of it.

basa 12-04-2006 10:27
Re: MS Updates today
 
:Yikes:

I've only this week installed XP Home on my PC (was 98SE). After the initial install and activating my AV I thought I had downloaded all available Updates.

But last night when I went to Windows Update it downloaded and installed 37 patches !! :shocked:

Bob 12-04-2006 10:35
Re: MS Updates today
 
Thanks for the head-up Paul - downloaded and upto date :)

Druchii 12-04-2006 11:54
Re: MS Updates today
 
Unfortunatly cannot update from MS's site, i'm worried that my corporate edition install will be verified as fake because the comapy whose PC this once was is now bankrupt.
Ah well. I'll settle for being very careful online and most things shouldn't really bother me i hope. I have SP2 afterall.

Derek 12-04-2006 12:09
Re: MS Updates today
 
You got XP Corp pre-installed?

No wonder you are worried it'll be detected as being fake. :erm:

dilli-theclaw 12-04-2006 12:12
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Druchii
Unfortunatly cannot update from MS's site, i'm worried that my corporate edition install will be verified as fake because the comapy whose PC this once was is now bankrupt.
Ah well. I'll settle for being very careful online and most things shouldn't really bother me i hope. I have SP2 afterall.
If you have automatic updates enables you should still recieve security updates even if it is identifies as 'fake'.

MrBen 12-04-2006 12:19
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Druchii
Unfortunatly cannot update from MS's site, i'm worried that my corporate edition install will be verified as fake because the comapy whose PC this once was is now bankrupt.
Ah well. I'll settle for being very careful online and most things shouldn't really bother me i hope. I have SP2 afterall.
I believe MS still provide security updates to 'hot' versions of their software on the basis it's better for all if they are patched. Even if you don't validate the cops won't be busting down your door.

Ben

mcmanic 12-04-2006 13:04
Re: MS Updates today
 
yeah just turn on Automatic Updates

nffc 12-04-2006 13:56
Re: MS Updates today
 
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...v2-x86-ENU.exe
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo...v2-x86-ENU.exe THIS ONE USES WGA IF YOU CAN'T GET IT I WILL UPLOAD.

Can't seem to get the others manually yet but the KBs are 911562, 912812, 908531, 911567. They will be available and I'll try and get them from the catalogue.

ntl customer 12-04-2006 13:59
Re: MS Updates today
 
Or download the MBSA, scan your machine with it and download the updates manually.

Or subscribe to the Microsoft security bulletin each month - which gives links to the articles and the direct download links to the patches. Two minute job to download and patch your system.

If you are going to use automatic updates, then make sure it's set to notify, or download but choose when to install them. I've seen lots of complaints on forums about the patch for Microsoft's patent battle, which means you've got to click on an activex control to make it work - even Flash or WMP controls - and the update for this appears to have been installed automatically, so novice users are a bit "wtf???" when they've got to click on the things to make it work properly.

So be careful if you don't want pushed updates to your machine to install automatically.

grubbymitts 12-04-2006 15:17
Re: MS Updates today
 
the activex thing is not high priority so if you go through the website and install from there, you can choose only to install high priority installs like security issues

nffc 12-04-2006 15:42
Re: MS Updates today
 
Download Windows XP, Windows Vista and Windows 2000 patches, service packs and upgrades HERE.

Down the Pub 12-04-2006 17:42
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dilligaf1701
If you have automatic updates enables you should still recieve security updates even if it is identifies as 'fake'.
i don't..........the heap that i got already had a legit VLK copy , the other week was updating when MS dropped a new validation .dll on me and since then i can't get updates. you can't even disable the new active-x in IE :mad:.

MrBen 12-04-2006 18:56
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubbymitts
the activex thing is not high priority so if you go through the website and install from there, you can choose only to install high priority installs like security issues
Microsoft started talking about what was going to be happening with ActiveX back in [I think it was] December last year so websites could start changing their code. They released a non-high priority patch in February but it is now included as part of the high-priority Internet Explorer security update.

There is a compatiblity patch available from Microsoft that will revert the change to ActiveX until the second week of June.

It's not a huge issue as Flash animations etc will still play on load. You just need to click on them first to activate them before you can interact with them. Websites can change the way they load ActiveX controls to bypass the issue and reduce the impact. Now the it's being 'forced' on people I'm sure people will start to make the changes. It's not a huge thing to do.

I've seen a few people choosing to not install the IE security update but that is not a good idea at all really. All the IE patches will now include this change to ActiveX so sooner or later you will have to accept it.

Ben

Chicken 12-04-2006 22:26
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrBen
Microsoft started talking about what was going to be happening with ActiveX back in [I think it was] December last year so websites could start changing their code. They released a non-high priority patch in February but it is now included as part of the high-priority Internet Explorer security update.

There is a compatiblity patch available from Microsoft that will revert the change to ActiveX until the second week of June.

It's not a huge issue as Flash animations etc will still play on load. You just need to click on them first to activate them before you can interact with them. Websites can change the way they load ActiveX controls to bypass the issue and reduce the impact. Now the it's being 'forced' on people I'm sure people will start to make the changes. It's not a huge thing to do.

I've seen a few people choosing to not install the IE security update but that is not a good idea at all really. All the IE patches will now include this change to ActiveX so sooner or later you will have to accept it.

Ben
Is this the update that now pops up a message saying "Click to run an ActiveX control on this page"??? - if so, I have to ask.. what is the f***ing point???
You have NO idea which ActiveX is about to be run, you can't use the browser's back button as the message is modal and stopping you, and - best of all, clicking the Close Window button on the dialog --- wait for it - ALLOWS THE ACTIVEX CONTROL TO RUN ANYWAY!! :Yikes:

What a complete and utter waste of time.

MrBen 12-04-2006 23:08
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chicken
Is this the update that now pops up a message saying "Click to run an ActiveX control on this page"??? - if so, I have to ask.. what is the f***ing point???
You have NO idea which ActiveX is about to be run, you can't use the browser's back button as the message is modal and stopping you, and - best of all, clicking the Close Window button on the dialog --- wait for it - ALLOWS THE ACTIVEX CONTROL TO RUN ANYWAY!! :Yikes:

What a complete and utter waste of time.
No, it doesn't sound like it. You should only be seeing a tooltip when you mouse over the ActiveX control telling you to click to activate it. Take a look at this Flash animation on the Macromedia.com site (also see Macromedia article).

Microsoft haven't done this because they want to. There was a patent dispute between them and Eolas Technologies. Microsoft lost and this is the consequence. Websites can implement work arounds should they choose to, it's not that complicated but will take some time.

Ben

Slyder 13-04-2006 06:32
Re: MS Updates today
 
All patched up and upto date with no problems.

Thnx for the heads up... :)

banjo 13-04-2006 10:45
Re: MS Updates today
 
I installed the patches yesterday and today when I visited e-bay there are no pictures just a message where they should be saying that "This page is unavailable" is this a coincidence, could someone check the home page of e-bay please, thank you.

grubbymitts 13-04-2006 11:38
Re: MS Updates today
 
yep, you are right Banjo. But it is only advert crud anyway. Looks like that patch is well cacky!

If it bothers you, you can remove it from add/remove programs.

banjo 13-04-2006 11:39
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubbymitts
yep, you are right Banjo. But it is only advert crud anyway. Looks like that patch is well cacky!

If it bothers you, you can remove it from add/remove programs.
Thank you for looking :angel:

iadom 13-04-2006 23:50
Re: MS Updates today
 
Well I have a slight problem, desktop update fine. Laptop update went OK but when the laptop was rebooted I noticed that the battery status icon was missing from the taskbar/systray. I have tried everything I can to get it back to no avail. When I plug in the mains adaptor the icon is still missing, even though Control Panel/Power Options/Advanced has the tick box for 'Show icon on Taskbar' enabled it is still missing. It is something that I really would like to sort so that i can quickly check on battery status. Has anyone else noticed this problem or can suggest a fix ?

Druchii 14-04-2006 00:05
Re: MS Updates today
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by iadom
Well I have a slight problem, desktop update fine. Laptop update went OK but when the laptop was rebooted I noticed that the battery status icon was missing from the taskbar/systray. I have tried everything I can to get it back to no avail. When I plug in the mains adaptor the icon is still missing, even though Control Panel/Power Options/Advanced has the tick box for 'Show icon on Taskbar' enabled it is still missing. It is something that I really would like to sort so that i can quickly check on battery status. Has anyone else noticed this problem or can suggest a fix ?
Tried turning the option off, rebooting and the re-turning it on?

iadom 14-04-2006 00:48
Re: MS Updates today
 
It is really weird but I have fixed it.
First of all I checked that 'Show Icon' was selected and also in 'Customize Notifications' that it was set to 'Always Show'. This had no effect.

I then did a system restore to the day before and the power icon was back in all its glory.
Once again I went through Windows Update and after reboot the icon had once more vanished.

I then deselected 'Show Icon' via Power Options/Advanced and rebooted. Believe it or not the icon is now back, even though it is still unticked in Power Options/Advanced. :confused:
I checked on 'Customize Notifications' and it is still checked as 'Always Show' so for the moment all seems to be working again.

Jim.

abailey152 15-04-2006 12:24
Re: MS Updates today
 
I started having problems with this update. NTBackup freezing and a program called ExplorerPlus also freezing. Also found several copies of a new file in the task list, "Verclsid.exe".

After searching, found this and this. Apparently, one of the security fixes does break some programs and Windows itself (such as Windows freezing when right-clicking on desktop). The main problem is with HP printer and scanner drivers, but it can cause problems when no HP drivers are installed.

Personally, the fix I've used is to rename the "C:\Windows\System32\Verclsid.exe" file to "C:\Windows\System32\Verclsid.old" which seems to work okay. However, these workarounds do kill the security fix so should only be used if you have problems.

popper 16-04-2006 21:31
Re: MS Updates today
 
PatchLink Warns on IE Patch
http://www.osnn.net/comments.php?shownews=12718
The problems arise because of changes Microsoft made to how the Web browser handles Web programs called ActiveX controls. The modifications are designed to shield Microsoft from liability in a high-profile patent dispute with Eolas Technologies and the University of California.

Microsoft had warned that the ActiveX tweaks, first announced in December, can affect how certain sites display in the browser. The software maker released a "compatibility patch" alongside Tuesday's security update that undoes the ActiveX changes for another 60 days.

Paul K 17-04-2006 09:49
Re: MS Updates today
 
Yeah, Mr Ben mentioned that in post 21. PITA when 2 companies try to score points off each other at cost to users.


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