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Florence 09-04-2006 20:07

High pings to London server.
 
Well I have been having this problem on and off for a few weeks but ofcourse its not NTL its my router :erm: I think not the router is working perfectly.

Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.**.***]
2 8 ms 8 ms 9 ms 10.9.0.1
3 9 ms 17 ms 7 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 19 ms 10 ms 8 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 193 ms 186 ms 193 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
7 190 ms 189 ms 186 ms 212.187.137.1
8 202 ms 202 ms 188 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
9 216 ms 210 ms 199 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
10 194 ms 212 ms 192 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.42]

11 210 ms 196 ms 201 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.
This is playing havoc with my gaming and on a 2mb service!!

If this is what NTL want then we should also have an online ticket system as ADSL ISPs have to allow us to have help using emails trying to tell some guy in far off country what your pings are is near impossible while it could be copied onto emails and show where the problems are.

Nullman 09-04-2006 20:25

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Yeah, getting the same.

Tracing route to 213.248.98.74 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 * <1 ms <1 ms 192.***.***.***
2 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.***.***.***
3 8 ms 7 ms 9 ms midd-t2cam1-a-v109.inet.ntl.com [213.106.239.181]
4 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms midd-t2core-a-ge-wan63.inet.ntl.com [213.106.237.41]
5 10 ms 8 ms 10 ms lee-bb-a-so-130-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.89]
6 11 ms 11 ms 8 ms lee-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.186]
7 14 ms 35 ms 28 ms man-bb-a-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.193]
8 212 ms 200 ms 205 ms man-bb-b-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.178]
9 207 ms 207 ms 208 ms win-bb-a-so-300-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.138]
10 211 ms 211 ms 219 ms bre-bb-b-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.234]
11 208 ms 203 ms 204 ms telc-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.121]
12 206 ms 204 ms 211 ms ldn-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.100.37]
13 207 ms 207 ms 208 ms ldn-bb1-pos0-1-0.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
14 221 ms 227 ms 215 ms prs-bb1-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.64.9]
15 215 ms 216 ms 230 ms prs-b2-pos15-0.telia.net [213.248.65.222]
16 214 ms 216 ms 215 ms prs-nant-ks51-geth0-1.telia.net [213.248.98.74]

We're not alone either
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=45752

Florence 09-04-2006 20:55

Re: High pings to London server.
 
The main problem is this is intermitten the pings are high then after a few hours they reduce to a usable ping then while in a game they suddenly shoot up again.

Considering moving my phone to BT then if it continues I can at least get ADSL quicker.

IanGuy 09-04-2006 21:12

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Getting exactly the same problem. Have been for about a week, I wish I saw this topic first though as I just posted here: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=45770

James Henry 09-04-2006 21:31

Re: High pings to London server.
 
This is a problem with man-bb-a.inet.ntl.com

It looks as though they've either switched its' routing protocols off or are restarting them at the mo as it's no longer being propogated on the ntl network.

Tracing route to man-bb-a.inet.ntl.com [194.145.149.23]

6 195.50.116.197 reports: Destination host unreachable.

EDIT: Forgot to say, this means that no traffic will be traversing this node now so the problems should have gone away.

Florence 09-04-2006 21:38

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Yes for now its a lot better

Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.**.***]
2 7 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.9.0.1
3 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 9 ms 7 ms 10 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 15 ms 10 ms 20 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 13 ms 24 ms 13 ms dbln-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.46]

7 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms dbln-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.50]
8 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms 213.242.106.37
9 40 ms 42 ms 44 ms so-4-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.113]

10 20 ms 107 ms 32 ms ge-10-2.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.138
]
11 51 ms 54 ms 54 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

jtwn 09-04-2006 22:07

Re: High pings to London server.
 
There is a problem here

Code:

  9    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  redb-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.138]
 10  119 ms  113 ms  115 ms  sw1.tc.lon [195.66.224.220]
 11  116 ms  118 ms  114 ms  rdb-1-m1.routers.ovh.net [213.251.130.142]
 12  117 ms  109 ms  111 ms  cpu-227.verygames.net [213.251.148.142]

and here

Code:

8    39 ms    70 ms    28 ms  bre-bb-a-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.149]

  9    18 ms    18 ms    16 ms  bre-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.166]

 10  210 ms  208 ms  208 ms  telc-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.121]
 11    *      201 ms  204 ms  ldn-b2-link.telia.net [213.248.100.37]
 12  231 ms  197 ms  227 ms  ldn-bb1-pos0-1-0.telia.net [213.248.74.1]
 13  231 ms  206 ms  230 ms  prs-bb1-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.64.9]
 14  225 ms  222 ms  219 ms  ffm-bb1-pos6-0-0.telia.net [213.248.64.109]
 15  219 ms  233 ms  233 ms  ffm-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.249.194]
 16    39 ms    51 ms    68 ms  ettelsystems-111447-ffm-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.
76.186]
 17    78 ms    73 ms    62 ms  so-0-1-0.core01.co1.unitedcolo.de [85.14.194.34]

 18  254 ms  247 ms  231 ms  85.14.233.34.unitedcolo.de [85.14.233.34]

Now I know ntl have some kind of issue with France interconnections considering a refresh of for instance CSS server browser to give the servers < 100 ping almost never returns any or puts French servers in a massive minority.

But I don't know when Germany started getting bad. I know its not me, as the four others on my team were having the same problem.

Tried gameservers.net aswell now in nl -

Code:

Tracing route to www.gameservers.net [62.212.83.150]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    3 ms    1 ms    2 ms  192.168.1.1
  2    10 ms    22 ms    9 ms  10.249.148.1
  3    14 ms    10 ms    10 ms  nott-t2cam1-b-v129.inet.ntl.com [80.4.47.229]
  4    18 ms    17 ms    14 ms  nott-t2core-b-ge-wan73.inet.ntl.com [80.1.79.205
]
  5    14 ms    14 ms    19 ms  nth-bb-b-so-200-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.37]
  6    16 ms    16 ms    17 ms  pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]

  7    19 ms    15 ms    23 ms  pop-bb-b-ge-000-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.230]

  8    23 ms    31 ms    26 ms  amst-ic-1-as0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.94]
  9    22 ms    22 ms    22 ms  10ge-2-0.amsix.ams.nl.leaseweb.net [195.69.144.2
15]
 10    66 ms    43 ms    37 ms  ge-3-0.r1.tc2.ams.nl.leaseweb.net [62.212.80.66]

 11  319 ms  316 ms  312 ms  www.gameservers.net [62.212.83.150]

The internets is breaking down!!!

Florence 09-04-2006 22:43

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Yes I found German servers to be good normally but I h ave never had high pings to the London one till a few weeks ago and it has been NTL but now seems to be level3 in London.
What is a bitter pill to swallow is paying to report it and being told its my end!!

UncleBooBoo 09-04-2006 22:56

Re: High pings to London server.
 
I have also been having problems today regarding high pings caused by:
Quote:

6 192 ms 233 ms 271 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
Been playing hell with Voip & gaming all day!

Don't hold out any hope of NTL sorting it out though! To them we all have faulty routers no doubt!!! :td:

jonifen 09-04-2006 23:38

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Our connection to Germany and Holland has been pretty terrible today... just our luck that the main UT2004 servers we use are located there :(

Chrysalis 10-04-2006 02:51

Re: High pings to London server.
 
I have noticed the last 2 days things have improved here in terms of speeds, also routing is more direct for instance I can now go over level3 in london without going upto manchester first.

1 39 ms 12 ms 7 ms 10.227.112.1
2 8 ms 10 ms 19 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.213]
3 13 ms 7 ms 8 ms leic-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.134]
4 13 ms 9 ms 10 ms nth-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.114]
5 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 12 ms 24 ms 14 ms 195.50.91.69
7 20 ms 11 ms 17 ms ge-11-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.106]
8 12 ms 38 ms 11 ms 212.187.246.186

Germany and holland or parts of them have been bad for me for months in the evenings but again last night I was downloading from .nl at 600kB at 8pm.

Perhaps the old leicester routing has been moved over to a different region :D

Florence 10-04-2006 08:44

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
I have noticed the last 2 days things have improved here in terms of speeds, also routing is more direct for instance I can now go over level3 in london without going upto manchester first.

1 39 ms 12 ms 7 ms 10.227.112.1
2 8 ms 10 ms 19 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.213]
3 13 ms 7 ms 8 ms leic-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.134]
4 13 ms 9 ms 10 ms nth-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.114]
5 12 ms 11 ms 11 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 12 ms 24 ms 14 ms 195.50.91.69
7 20 ms 11 ms 17 ms ge-11-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.106]
8 12 ms 38 ms 11 ms 212.187.246.186

Germany and holland or parts of them have been bad for me for months in the evenings but again last night I was downloading from .nl at 600kB at 8pm.

Perhaps the old leicester routing has been moved over to a different region :D

You might be able to but I live in Manchester so get bounced around it before I escape

Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.**.***]
2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 13 ms 14 ms 13 ms dbln-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.46]

7 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms dbln-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.50]
8 15 ms 13 ms 18 ms 213.242.106.37
9 19 ms 24 ms 19 ms so-4-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.113]

10 32 ms 19 ms 20 ms ge-10-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.10]

11 18 ms 19 ms 19 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

Early morning and everything is good if I take this again after 6pm it will be high

James Henry 10-04-2006 10:49

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Henry
This is a problem with man-bb-a.inet.ntl.com

It looks as though they've either switched its' routing protocols off or are restarting them at the mo as it's no longer being propogated on the ntl network.

Tracing route to man-bb-a.inet.ntl.com [194.145.149.23]

6 195.50.116.197 reports: Destination host unreachable.

EDIT: Forgot to say, this means that no traffic will be traversing this node now so the problems should have gone away.

On the other hand they may have done some stuff with it but all the -bb- nodes are untraceable from outside of the network. Probably relates to the dodgily done MPLS overlay.

So dunno looks as though traffic was manually rerouted around as your trace now traverses Dublin to get to London.

Maybe someone from ntl will be kind enough to let us know what happened. It looks at first inspection like their (all manual, that's why I called the MPLS overlay dodgy) traffic engineering went pearshaped and congested links.

Florence 11-04-2006 13:48

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Last night trying to play a game I was very jumpy with pings bouncing around from 20 to 170 if they had reached 200 I wouold have been kicked by the server for the high pings. Those I was playing against never had a ping above 33 on ADSL.


Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.1.1]
2 10 ms 7 ms 8 ms 10.9.0.1
3 52 ms 104 ms 7 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 19 ms 8 ms 10 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 15 ms 10 ms 35 ms dbln-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.46]

7 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms dbln-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.50]
8 13 ms 14 ms 29 ms 213.242.106.37
9 22 ms 20 ms 18 ms so-4-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.113]

10 19 ms 21 ms 29 ms ge-10-2.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.138
]
11 19 ms 18 ms 44 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.
taken this morning and now I seem to jump to dbln seems a strange way to move around to a server in London. Someone is cocking up big time at NTL :Yikes:

Neil 11-04-2006 13:54

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Florence
Someone is cocking up big time at NTL :Yikes:

Why the shocked face?

James Henry 11-04-2006 15:29

Re: High pings to London server.
 
There's loads of weird routing if you look for it. :)

Think there's a fair bit of traffic engineering going on both inside and outside their network, for example:

7 8 ms 8 ms 7 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118]

8 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms sl-bb21-lon-6-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.131.21]

9 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms sl-gw11-lon-15-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.128.59]

10 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms sle-ntl-5-0.sprintlink.net [213.206.156.102]
11 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms win-bb-a-so-500-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.129]

Even though ntl have a link to Level3 directly traffic goes over Sprint when destined to some of their network.

Excuse the pings by the way, wireless adds a ms or 2 :blush:

jtwn 11-04-2006 17:39

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Oh noes... a millisecond ;)

Florence 11-04-2006 23:18

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil
Why the shocked face?

Perhaps because after 6 yrs I have never had pings so bad for as long..

Tonight again the server keeps kicking me and its due to NTL and the messed up network. There is no chance the way NTL are managing this network or perhaps the lack of managment they expect the network run like a well oiled machine when they havent the staff to keep it oiled.

Tonights pings

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.1.1]
2 9 ms 6 ms 8 ms 10.9.0.1
3 478 ms 124 ms 13 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 445 ms 9 ms 19 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 178 ms 295 ms 299 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 158 ms 271 ms 302 ms dbln-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.46]

7 451 ms 292 ms 287 ms dbln-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.50]
8 373 ms 278 ms 280 ms 213.242.106.37
9 291 ms 287 ms 276 ms so-4-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.113]

10 467 ms 322 ms 464 ms ge-10-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.74]

11 * 97 ms 270 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

---------- Post added at 22:55 ---------- Previous post was at 22:20 ----------

Well what a wonderful wait started waiting at 10.25pm with 70 people ahead of me.. India call center I explained about the network and how my end was fine and others not on NTL say the server is fine it's the naff network I am on connecting me to the server. She insist I have to phone a different number if its for games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Doesn't other people not play games on PC's online I never mentioned a console we dont connect a console to the network its the PC they play online games with and she gives me 0845 650 0101 I have wasted almost 30 mins put my phone bill higher and for nothing as there is nothing being done about it.

---------- Post added at 23:18 ---------- Previous post was at 22:55 ----------

two calls to tech support and again if you remove the router the pings will be better its the firewall on the router:Yikes:
1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [router]
2 9 ms 6 ms 8 ms SACM
3 478 ms 124 ms 13 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 445 ms 9 ms 19 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
NTLS network

No chance the router is doing anything

James Henry 12-04-2006 05:55

Re: High pings to London server.
 
I've been informed that http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...71&postcount=5 is closest to the truth, ntl are having problems with their Juniper core routers and aggregated interfaces.

Not the first time.

Florence 12-04-2006 11:35

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Henry
I've been informed that http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...71&postcount=5 is closest to the truth, ntl are having problems with their Juniper core routers and aggregated interfaces.

Not the first time.

Thank you for the link I had been doing some tests in mIRC and the results given was that someone was raping the upload. I am on 2mb and the connection has been going downhill fast its fine by day when everyone is at work then around tea pings go high and that is it till gone 2am.

As for phoning Tech support as customers we was told teh India call center was to stop queues on the line its no different except NTL plan to rape your bank balance for calling them. I was on twice last night the first was a total waste of time the second a little more helpful at least he did escalate it or said he had only time will tell. On the 0870 number my calls last night would cost me first one £2.16 the second one £1.96 now that is highway robbery.

---------- Post added at 11:35 ---------- Previous post was at 10:37 ----------

Just to prove its upload contention I have completed another tracer route this morning

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.**.***]
2 7 ms 9 ms 8 ms 10.9.0.1
3 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 9 ms 24 ms 11 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 20 ms 30 ms 13 ms dbln-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.46]

7 12 ms 20 ms 13 ms dbln-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.174.50]
8 19 ms 11 ms 12 ms 213.242.106.37
9 34 ms 21 ms 19 ms so-4-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.113]

10 24 ms 18 ms 20 ms ge-10-2.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.138
]
11 19 ms 42 ms 19 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

this changes as evening arrives,

James Henry 12-04-2006 15:31

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Florence
Just to prove its upload contention I have completed another tracer route this morning

Nope you misunderstand it's not upstream contention it's a fault with the routers themselves and how they are handling traffic, not a shortage of bandwidth.

The traces you've put in post 18 prove no issues with contention, the hope after your router is ntl's network not your cable modem.

Chrysalis 14-04-2006 16:05

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Well if its a fault of some sort it has caused them to make my routing better.

I did another trace and still going direct to london, since this issue cropped up my speeds in the evening have gone from 50-150kB to 500-900kB.

So please when you fix this ntl leave Leics routing how it is right now.

Florence 15-04-2006 17:08

Re: High pings to London server.
 
:tu: to who ever sorted out my pings problem. ;)

Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.**.***]
2 9 ms 18 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 18 ms 8 ms 8 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 8 ms 10 ms 8 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 9 ms 9 ms 12 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 9 ms 9 ms 7 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
7 8 ms 8 ms 21 ms 212.187.137.1
8 9 ms 10 ms 12 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
9 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
10 15 ms 16 ms 15 ms ge-11-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.106
]
11 34 ms 43 ms 15 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.
:beer: thank you guys now I can have a game of CS and not get shot before I move. :rofl:

Chrysalis 15-04-2006 19:43

Re: High pings to London server.
 
thank god someone listened :) still going direct to london :)

Druchii 15-04-2006 19:52

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Florence
:tu: to who ever sorted out my pings problem. ;) :beer: thank you guys now I can have a game of CS and not get shot before I move. :rofl:

I know the feeling ;)

Florence 17-04-2006 14:58

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Well this fix was short lived

Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.**.***]
2 167 ms 181 ms 189 ms 10.9.0.1
3 311 ms 196 ms 240 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 192 ms 205 ms 215 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 268 ms 219 ms 201 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 311 ms 314 ms 315 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
7 233 ms 211 ms 215 ms 212.187.137.1
8 330 ms 210 ms 257 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
9 173 ms 213 ms 210 ms ae-1-0.bbr2.london1.level3.net [212.187.128.57]

10 289 ms 222 ms 200 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.42]

11 293 ms 265 ms 212 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

Pinging 212.187.246.186 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=187ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=185ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=206ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=220ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 212.187.246.186:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 185ms, Maximum = 220ms, Average = 199ms

jtwn 17-04-2006 15:03

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Look where your pings are highest first. A uBR should not return pings like that. Its a different problem.

Chrysalis 17-04-2006 19:21

Re: High pings to London server.
 
that ubr latency is unreal, either the ubr has a problem congestion or fault, or you have a problem at your pc/modem maybe running torrents maxed out.

James Henry 17-04-2006 21:01

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Are you sure that you're the only person using the connection at the time these were taken?

I see a router in there before the ntl network so isn't it possible that one of your family is uploading or downloading?

Florence 17-04-2006 21:04

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
that ubr latency is unreal, either the ubr has a problem congestion or fault, or you have a problem at your pc/modem maybe running torrents maxed out.

:Yikes: I havent any torrent software on my PC and if my son had been home then I wouldnt be so sure but he was away at his mates where he has been since thursday. infact I never have and wouldnt know where to start to look for any.


I do not download any torrant things the od linux iso or any software I buy that is downloadable, I occasionally listen to a radio stream.. modem is working fine

James Henry 17-04-2006 21:10

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Try another traceroute ;)

Seems a bit 'sudden' that increase to be congestion on the ntl side.

It's also a bit too stable.

Florence 17-04-2006 21:13

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Henry
Are you sure that you're the only person using the connection at the time these were taken?

I see a router in there before the ntl network so isn't it possible that one of your family is uploading or downloading?

My son was away an dwhen that was taken my daughter was asleep in bed we can all play CS at once when the network is at its best and have next to no lag pinging on that server less than 30ms. We have already done this and those we was playing against thaought NTl was great to manage the three of us playing but its been fast downhill and now struggles to ping less than 100 with one playing.

Computer is virus and spyware free just this happens and a little later it can be good again for an hour then back to high pings.

Florence 18-04-2006 00:54

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James Henry
Try another traceroute ;)

Seems a bit 'sudden' that increase to be congestion on the ntl side.

It's also a bit too stable.

this was taken just after I was kicked on CS for high pings by the server.

Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS
2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 270 ms 214 ms 289 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 197 ms 9 ms 9 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 260 ms 55 ms 10 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 349 ms 9 ms 9 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
7 296 ms 294 ms 291 ms 212.187.137.1
8 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
9 483 ms 289 ms 296 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
10 472 ms 277 ms 290 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.42]

11 407 ms * 24 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

Chrysalis 18-04-2006 05:43

Re: High pings to London server.
 
my service has gone to pot again, pings all over the place at 5.30 am, did it following a poor 3mbit download.

1 88 ms 107 ms 12 ms 10.227.112.1
2 46 ms 124 ms 43 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.213]
3 40 ms 27 ms 45 ms leic-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.134]
4 24 ms 60 ms 12 ms nth-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.114]
5 73 ms 115 ms 10 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 116 ms 53 ms 127 ms 195.50.91.69
7 110 ms 37 ms 15 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.42]
8 17 ms 115 ms 113 ms 212.187.246.186

Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 86.13.36.1

Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=7ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=46ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=107ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=211ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=308ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=109ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=13ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=10ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=30ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=122ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=211ms TTL=255
Reply from 86.13.36.1: bytes=32 time=128ms TTL=255

James Henry 18-04-2006 07:29

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Florence
this was taken just after I was kicked on CS for high pings by the server.

Still don't think it's congestion think it's something else.

Quote:

2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
Is a tad low and stable for congestion on the ntl side, don't ya think?

Maybe someone who can actually take a look at your connection properly rather than making guesstimates can assist. :)

Chrysalis - It's term time again, the students have been without their pr0n for weeks now!

Florence 18-04-2006 10:36

Re: High pings to London server.
 
this is what I get early morning when most people are in work without changing anything!

Quote:

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.1.1]
2 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms oldh-t2cam1-b-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.109]
4 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms manc-t3core-1b-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.169]
5 9 ms 8 ms 9 ms man-bb-b-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.242.245]

6 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms man-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.177]
7 24 ms 8 ms 27 ms 212.187.137.1
8 18 ms 9 ms 9 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
9 28 ms 14 ms 25 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
10 20 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-10-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.74]

11 21 ms 16 ms 15 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.
After 5pm it gets stupid and you can have high pings one hour and good ping the next but no two hours are ever the same.

jtwn 18-04-2006 13:37

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Don't blame ntl blame your router. I'm not saying that exactly is the problem but I've gone through four of their ****ty routers and still my latest WRT54GS sometimes fouls up causing me to have to spend hours of flashing, rebooting etc. until it suddenly, miraculously works properly again.

When you start lagging pull out your router, and try straight through to your modem. At least you will be able to eliminate it then from the equation if it proves not to be the problem.

Chrysalis 18-04-2006 16:21

Re: High pings to London server.
 
term time or not, I expect my isp to handle what they sell. At 5am when next to noone is online and I had that.

riz250383 18-04-2006 17:36

Re: High pings to London server.
 
im having the same trouble from stoke-on-trent playing a game hosted in france im also getting very high pings i will post some trace routes soon if they help

---------- Post added at 17:36 ---------- Previous post was at 17:05 ----------

after a long talk to ntl tech support i got told at the end to look at this website http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...ips/games.html

and that ntl could not do anything about it because they only promise that you can access websites, emails and general internet use, they do not support online gameing.

also as i promised in my last post here is a screenshot taken from ping plotter of my ping to the server i play on for 10 mins while on the phone to ntl

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]

if any1 can help me with this i would be most greatfull as NTL dont want to know

thanks

Florence 18-04-2006 19:58

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jtwn
Don't blame ntl blame your router. I'm not saying that exactly is the problem but I've gone through four of their ****ty routers and still my latest WRT54GS sometimes fouls up causing me to have to spend hours of flashing, rebooting etc. until it suddenly, miraculously works properly again.

When you start lagging pull out your router, and try straight through to your modem. At least you will be able to eliminate it then from the equation if it proves not to be the problem.

I presume you are still using Linksys firmware?

---------- Post added at 19:58 ---------- Previous post was at 19:50 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by riz250383
im having the same trouble from stoke-on-trent playing a game hosted in france im also getting very high pings i will post some trace routes soon if they help

---------- Post added at 17:36 ---------- Previous post was at 17:05 ----------

after a long talk to ntl tech support i got told at the end to look at this website http://homepage.ntlworld.com/robin.d...ips/games.html

and that ntl could not do anything about it because they only promise that you can access websites, emails and general internet use, they do not support online gameing.

also as i promised in my last post here is a screenshot taken from ping plotter of my ping to the server i play on for 10 mins while on the phone to ntl

http://img453.imageshack.us/img453/4...23334bo.th.png

if any1 can help me with this i would be most greatfull as NTL dont want to know

thanks


If NTL isnt for gaming then why do they charge people an extra £5 to have the consoles attached to the network to play online games.

In fact I have been with NT for 6 years and its only since they went to 10mb that I have had unsteady connection I know my area is hit hard with 10mb users but I am still on 2mb.

jtwn 18-04-2006 20:27

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Florence
I presume you are still using Linksys firmware?

Oh I've used them all. Various Linksys versions, DDWRT, HyperWRT.

Currently my WRT54GS is using an older version of the linksys firm, and my now redundant wireless B linksys is too (though custom firms weren't available for that).

I don't know about the newer routers since Cisco bought up Linksys but the older ones, from at least what I've had reliability can't have much said for them; I expect to be able to pump jigabytes through them and still have them working 6 months down the line being the consumer arm of the mighty Cisco Systems.

Its not like I even tax it with any advanced routing, most of the time its just used as a transport for the wireless. It does seem like there may some heat issues originating from the radio, I tried turning that all the way down with DDWRT but still was dodgy. Hard wiring it was fine. This how all my (Linksys) routers have gone dodgy, just over the wireless. And yes I did try different WLess NICs ;)

Florence 18-04-2006 22:35

Re: High pings to London server.
 
I bought this router to replace my old one when it was blamed for high pings and that is working perfectly on ADSL now this is only a month old.

Chrysalis 19-04-2006 00:54

Re: High pings to London server.
 
the gaming cop out is because of congestion, congestion will pretty much ruin gaming unless their is shaping in place to prioritise the traffic.

Florence 22-04-2006 23:20

Re: High pings to London server.
 
this is looking like congestion.

I can do a tracer route in a morning and get low ms do it of an evening and ms is high also pings are lower in the morning than evening. also speeds have ddropped.

Quote:

morning
Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS
2 8 ms 10 ms 7 ms 10.9.0.1
3 9 ms 9 ms 7 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.69]
4 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms manc-t3core-1a-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.41]
5 8 ms 18 ms 9 ms man-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.175.1]
6 9 ms 8 ms 25 ms 212.187.137.1
7 33 ms 8 ms 8 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
8 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms ae-1-0.bbr2.london1.level3.net [212.187.128.57]

9 23 ms 23 ms 14 ms ge-11-2.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.170
]
10 16 ms 15 ms 16 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

Pinging 212.187.246.186 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=15ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=14ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 212.187.246.186:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 14ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 15ms
Quote:

evening.
Sat, 22 Apr 2006 22:07:41 GMT

1st 512K took 5735 ms = 89.3 KB/sec, approx 736 Kbps, 0.72 Mbps
2nd 512K took 3125 ms = 163.8 KB/sec, approx 1350 Kbps, 1.32 Mbps
3rd 512K took 4406 ms = 116.2 KB/sec, approx 957 Kbps, 0.93 Mbps
4th 512K took 3516 ms = 145.6 KB/sec, approx 1200 Kbps, 1.17 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1061 Kbps, 1.04 Mbps

Pinging 212.187.246.186 with 32 bytes of data:

Request timed out.
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=232ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=160ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 212.187.246.186:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 3, Lost = 1 (25% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 18ms, Maximum = 232ms, Average = 136ms

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS
2 153 ms 26 ms 18 ms 10.9.0.1
3 * 462 ms 529 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.69]
4 244 ms 43 ms 186 ms manc-t3core-1a-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.41]
5 61 ms 49 ms 28 ms man-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.175.1]
6 103 ms 113 ms 67 ms 212.187.137.1
7 292 ms 235 ms 177 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.manchesteruk1.level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
8 116 ms 79 ms 244 ms so-1-1-0.bbr1.london1.level3.net [4.68.128.73]
9 36 ms 15 ms 15 ms ge-10-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.10]

10 234 ms 360 ms 399 ms 212.187.246.186

Trace complete.

The router has been removed and tested on the modem still had high pings on the server making me unable to play CS

Chrysalis 23-04-2006 07:37

Re: High pings to London server.
 
thats pretty bad, what speed you on? and yes it looks like congestion to me and looks worse then what I had.

If its upstream congestion then forcing yourself onto diff upstream might fix it, cycle your modem or login to it and use reset to defaults option which usually works better then cycling it and keep doing it until the upstream channel changes. If its downstream congestion you stuffed until ntl spend ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£ÃƒÆ ’‚£ on upgrades.

My trace and pings below to same server.

1 8 ms 20 ms 8 ms 10.227.112.1
2 9 ms 11 ms 7 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.213]
3 9 ms 8 ms 11 ms leic-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.134]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms nth-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.114]
5 24 ms 27 ms 16 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 11 ms 11 ms 25 ms 195.50.91.69
7 12 ms 15 ms 63 ms ge-11-1.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.106]
8 35 ms 35 ms 48 ms 212.187.246.186

Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=57
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=11ms TTL=57
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=57
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=12ms TTL=57

Florence 23-04-2006 11:18

Re: High pings to London server.
 
I am on 2mb supposedly but its getting worse will give BT a call t see what deal I can get to move phone away to amke changing Internet from NTL easier and quicker this trend continues this is the worst connection I have had in 6 yrs.

Chrysalis 23-04-2006 23:45

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Looks like I got congestion again, very annoying I had somewhat good performance for 2 days then slowness and lag again.

Tracing route to 212.187.246.186 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 27 ms 53 ms 18 ms 10.227.112.1
2 17 ms 16 ms 12 ms leic-t2cam1-b-ge914.inet.ntl.com [82.3.35.213]
3 48 ms 53 ms 49 ms leic-t2core-b-ge-210-0.inet.ntl.com [82.3.33.134]
4 * 26 ms 30 ms nth-bb-b-so-230-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.188.114]
5 29 ms 32 ms 31 ms pop-bb-a-so-100-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.172.14]
6 29 ms 37 ms 19 ms 195.50.91.69
7 48 ms 35 ms 41 ms ge-11-0.ipcolo2.london1.level3.net [4.68.116.42]
8 21 ms 18 ms 17 ms 212.187.246.186

Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=57
Request timed out.
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=57
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=53ms TTL=57

not as bad as yours was tho.

Florence 24-04-2006 00:15

Re: High pings to London server.
 
yes its teh same every evening for me gets to 7pm and you can kiss decent speed and low pings bye.

Pinging 212.187.246.186 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=371ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=57ms TTL=53
Reply from 212.187.246.186: bytes=32 time=16ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 212.187.246.186:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 16ms, Maximum = 371ms, Average = 116ms


edited to add my speed test
Sun, 23 Apr 2006 22:53:27 GMT

1st 512K took 3781 ms = 135.4 KB/sec, approx 1116 Kbps, 1.09 Mbps
2nd 512K took 10954 ms = 46.7 KB/sec, approx 385 Kbps, 0.38 Mbps
3rd 512K took 7421 ms = 69 KB/sec, approx 569 Kbps, 0.56 Mbps
4th 512K took 8750 ms = 58.5 KB/sec, approx 482 Kbps, 0.47 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 638 Kbps, 0.63 Mbps

There is nothing wrong with my setup its fine by day and useless in the evening

---------- Post added at 00:15 ---------- Previous post was yesterday at 23:51 ----------

information from the modem

Downstream Lock : Locked
Downstream Channel Id : 1
Downstream Frequency : 586750000 Hz
Downstream Modulation : QAM64
Downstream Symbol Rate : 6952 Ksym/sec
Downstream Interleave Depth : taps12Increment17
Downstream Receive Power Level : 0.3 dBmV
Downstream SNR : 30.6 dB

Upstream Lock : Locked
Upstream Channel ID : 2
Upstream Frequency : 41600000 Hz
Upstream Modulation : QPSK
Upstream Symbol Rate : 2560 Ksym/sec
Upstream transmit Power Level : 44.0 dBmV
Upstream Mini-Slot Size : 2

I have tried reseting the modem to defaults

Florence 24-04-2006 09:11

Re: High pings to London server.
 
a speed test in the morning when most are in work.

Mon, 24 Apr 2006 08:08:24 GMT

1st 512K took 2188 ms = 234 KB/sec, approx 1928 Kbps, 1.88 Mbps
2nd 512K took 2140 ms = 239.3 KB/sec, approx 1972 Kbps, 1.93 Mbps
3rd 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps
4th 512K took 2172 ms = 235.7 KB/sec, approx 1942 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Overall Average Speed = approx 1946 Kbps, 1.9 Mbps

Well contacted BT today they have a special offer on 6 months half rental really considering moving back so I can move to ADSL

Florence 25-04-2006 23:13

Re: High pings to London server.
 
Well this will show the problems are mainly NTL's

I was kicked by this server after around an hour of acceptable pings to 790ms.

Tracing route to 87.117.208.193 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms WRT54GS [192.168.1.1]
2 9 ms 7 ms 16 ms 10.9.0.1
3 281 ms 636 ms 652 ms oldh-t2cam1-a-ge-wan51-129.inet.ntl.com [80.5.16
5.69]
4 370 ms 352 ms 332 ms manc-t3core-1a-ge-011-0.inet.ntl.com [213.104.24
2.41]
5 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms man-bb-a-so-400-0.inet.ntl.com [213.105.175.1]
6 159 ms 33 ms 9 ms lee-bb-b-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.194]

7 213 ms 320 ms 290 ms lee-bb-a-ae0-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.187.185]
8 94 ms 22 ms 12 ms nth-bb-b-so-000-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.185.101]

9 18 ms 185 ms 253 ms tele-ic-1-so-700-0.inet.ntl.com [62.253.184.2]
10 164 ms 27 ms 31 ms 212.250.14.86
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 81 ms 32 ms 96 ms 87.117.208.193

Trace complete.


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