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LSainsbury 07-04-2006 10:14

Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Hello,

Very basic Excel question - I'm sure i've done this before but as it's Friday morning I can't work it out!

I have an expsnses worksheet n Excel.

It has three columns - Net Amount, VAT and Total.

What I want to do is just complete the total column and have Excel work out the Net and VAT amounts...

Any ideas on the simple sum formula?

:tu:

Paul 07-04-2006 10:18

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Net = Total / 1.175

VAT = Total - Net.

yesman 07-04-2006 10:21

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsainsbury
Hello,

Very basic Excel question - I'm sure i've done this before but as it's Friday morning I can't work it out!

I have an expsnses worksheet n Excel.

It has three columns - Net Amount, VAT and Total.

What I want to do is just complete the total column and have Excel work out the Net and VAT amounts...

Any ideas on the simple sum formula?

:tu:

The net amount would be the total divided by 1.175, then the VAT would be the net amount multiplied by 17.5%

Edit: beaten to it by Paul

LSainsbury 07-04-2006 10:28

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Ummm....

Thanks for the responses...

If I put a total in of £30 - the VAT is £4.47 and the net is £25.53....thats wrong isn't it? Should'nt it be £5.25 and £24.75? - At least thats what calc works it out too! :erm:

BillyDrago 07-04-2006 10:38

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Nope - £24.75 + VAT = £29.08

(£24.75 x 1.175)

Paul 07-04-2006 10:39

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
£25.53 is correct.

17.5% of £25.53 = £4.47 (25.53 * 0.175)

The two add up to £30

£24.75 is clearly wrong and would be about 21.2%.

LSainsbury 07-04-2006 10:56

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
So how comes when in calc you do the calculation of 30-17.5% = Net £24.75 / VAT=£5.25?

Now confused!!!!!

Paul 07-04-2006 10:58

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Taking 17.5% from 30 is not the same thing.

LSainsbury 07-04-2006 11:02

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
Taking 17.5% from 30 is not the same thing.

Is it not? That's how I've always worked it out!!!:Yikes:

Paul 07-04-2006 11:05

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Nope.

Imagine if the net was £10, and VAT was 10%, then the total would be £10 + £1 = £11.

However £11 - 10% is £11 - £1.10 = £9.90 - not the same calculation. :)

LSainsbury 07-04-2006 11:18

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
Nope.

Imagine if the net was £10, and VAT was 10%, then the total would be £10 + £1 = £11.

However £11 - 10% is £11 - £1.10 = £9.90 - not the same calculation. :)

I see what you mean! OK - Won't use the % on a calc ever again!

One final thing....how do I copy just the forumla to other cells....paste special formulas dosn't seem to work! :disturbd:

homealone 07-04-2006 11:29

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lsainsbury
One final thing....how do I copy just the forumla to other cells....paste special formulas dosn't seem to work! :disturbd:

if copying vertically, just highlight the cells with the formulas in, then left click on the little black square in the bottom right of the highlighted cells & drag downwards for as far as you want the formulas to apply.

LSainsbury 07-04-2006 11:37

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
if copying vertically, just highlight the cells with the formulas in, then left click on the little black square in the bottom right of the highlighted cells & drag downwards for as far as you want the formulas to apply.

Thats the monkey!! Sorted - cheers!!!!

LSainsbury 28-01-2009 17:04

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Bump!

Not used my Overtime sheet for a while - had minimal expenses just been put through the tin, but this month I have a few so back to the Excel sheet.

It currently has this formula to work out VAT:

=SUM(E19/1.175)

I take it that should now read this since the rate has changed:

=SUM(E19/1.150)

Correct???

Acathla 28-01-2009 17:12

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Correct :)

Raistlin 28-01-2009 17:15

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Based on the conversation above, and the fact that you've been happy with the results generated, then I'd say yes.

That said, I'd do the calculations differently - that's just me though.

i'm going to tidy the posts above up I think..... :erm:

LSainsbury 28-01-2009 17:43

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Acathla (Post 34723683)
Correct :)

Thought so - thanks for confirming!

SMHarman 28-01-2009 19:20

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 721833)
So how comes when in calc you do the calculation of 30-17.5% = Net £24.75 / VAT=£5.25?

Now confused!!!!!

The 30 is 117.5% of the net not 82.5% 7/47th as a fraction.

If you want to do it that way it is 30-14.89361702127659574468085106383% (or 40/47ths)

Now it is 15% the vat fraction is 3/23rds

---------- Post added at 13:20 ---------- Previous post was at 13:17 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by LSainsbury (Post 34723682)
Bump!

Not used my Overtime sheet for a while - had minimal expenses just been put through the tin, but this month I have a few so back to the Excel sheet.

It currently has this formula to work out VAT:

=SUM(E19/1.175)

I take it that should now read this since the rate has changed:

=SUM(E19/1.150)

Correct???

What you really should do for clarity is put a line in it that says VAT RATE and then type the % in the box next to it and then refer all the VAT calcs to that number) Say it is in A27 that woudl be =sum(E19/(1+$A$27))
It's bad spreadsheet practice to put variables in as fixed numbers in multiple cells.

LSainsbury 28-01-2009 19:40

Re: Excel: Calculating VAT
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SMHarman (Post 34723758)

What you really should do for clarity is put a line in it that says VAT RATE and then type the % in the box next to it and then refer all the VAT calcs to that number) Say it is in A27 that woudl be =sum(E19/(1+$A$27))
It's bad spreadsheet practice to put variables in as fixed numbers in multiple cells.

What a waste of time - I mean - come on - how often does the VAT rate change.......


:erm:



Errrrrr - right - I see - will do that - good call!


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