tvdrive hdtv connection
 

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Is this a projector?

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Hi yes Its a hp mp3130 projector with firmware patch to upgrade device to 720p and 1080i resolution compatibility.

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Yeah, found some info: http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/sg/en...67-403977.html & http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/sg/en...7-1426971.html

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It does not work with the hdmi connection to dvi/M1 adapter
all I see is the telewest tvdrive menus which look fine but without video content normal or HD
do you think the component hd to vga connection has a chance?
I am waiting delivery of hp cable (component rca to vga) and will try

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Is your projector HDCP compliant?

also I had a similar problem when the TV drive as newly installed but a forced re-boot sorted it

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Looking at the documentation Its not HDCP compliant and its sounds like the problem as the menus are displayed and not the video content.
do you think the component hd connections which should have no HDCP will work to link the projector via VGA?

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No, it needs to be HDMI to carry to HDCP signals over.

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Component to VGA should work.

If ever there is broadecaster HDCP transmission (say in HD movies) you may have a problem watching HD. For now however component is good.

On TV drive the component is HD so should look pretty good

I would Try the TV Drive reboot first though.

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hello
I have tried the reboot using the reset button
is this what you mean or do you mean complete power off?

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There is a full system reset (not power off) which is described somewhere in the manual (i think) which involves pressing a combination of buttons together (Sorry I can not remember the combination)

If not in the manual, try TW support - they have been v helpful to me I have to say.

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if the component to vga cable does not work then my next step is
possibly the dc-da1 pure link from dtrovision it looks like it will convert the dvi to vga loosing the hdcp i hope.
looking at other forums its been used a few times for older displays and works!
does anyone have any experience of using this device?

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bad news about DC-DA1 no longer hdcp compliant due to forced changes
other news
apparently all hardware has internal kill switch for hdcp.
any ideas?
I have asked telewest re hdcp, who suggest waiting for component to vga link if that does not work they would ask scientific atlanta.

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Component to VGA

A couple of things to consider

Does your projector accept component signals (YUV) via VGA ir is it only able to accept RBG via VGA? Not all projectors allow YUV via VGA

If it is the latter you will need to use a YUV-RGB converter.

Also (i think you have answered the question but just to be sure) will your projector accept a HD signal via component.

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DVI can do HDCP.

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Fortune at last the component RCA to VGA outputs work with the projector on 1080i no luck with the 720p however.
Telewest still have some issues with the 4:3 / 16:9 broadcast formats but itâ₠¬ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¾Ã‚¢s a start.

I will try to get hold of an hdcp compliant DVI to VGA converter as even from the menu graphics on the DVI Link you can tell the large quality diff between the component outputs and the HDMI.

I will report on how I get on once I have the elusive Box in my hands!

Thank you for all your help

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Is all HD output from the TVdrive encoded in HDCP, what about the BBC stuff?

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There is no HDCP encoding taking place. HDCP is just part of the HDMI specifications which require HDCP to be enabled at all times. The same applies to anything with a HDMI port, even (normal) DVD players that have an HDMI output use HDCP at all times, and they arent even HD. Its just part of the spec.

You can still watch BBC HD through the component connections without HDCP. Currently there is however some HD videos in filmflex HD VOD which can only be watched through HDMI.

-Chris

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I'm waiting for a V+ installation to happen in a couple of weeks and was going to buy a Component to VGA cable to pass the video to a Toshiba projector (TDP TW 90) which will accept component through the vga connections.

From what I've read above this means that copy protected hd content won't be viewable - is that right?

Also will the quality be worse than it would from the HDMI connection with a converter (the cost of which is significantly more than a cable - about £150 upwards, I think)?

The component/vga connection on the projector has the usual HD resolutions (720p/1080i) so I would have thought the quality would be okay.

I was just about to get a componet to vga cable but might have to rethink if it will limit what I can watch. :confused:

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You won't have access to copyrighted stuff. VGA cannot carry the copyright signals.

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Thanks for coming back to me Stuart.

So, without specific hd inputs on the back of the projector is there any way to get the copy protected hd content into the projector in hd?

Do DV signal converters allow this? I was hoping not to have to fork out for one as the sort of thing that I think I'll need is about £150!!

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AFAIK, DVI converters cannot carry the copyright signals either.

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mmm...I might have to go with the component to VGA cable for now then and come up with a plan B at a later stage. Thanks again.