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Swansea-Jack 24-03-2006 20:50

Energy saving bulbs and remote.
 
I know these play hell with NTL remotes, and right now mine is almost usless even within a foot of the box, anyone got any tips apart from turning the light off everytime I want to change station :dozey:

SLM 24-03-2006 21:02

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Change the light bulb.

jellybaby 24-03-2006 21:26

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I've found that after about an hour, the remote starts working a little better, but to be honest, I did what SLM said and changed the bulb...

Graham M 24-03-2006 23:36

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Originally Posted by jellybaby
I've found that after about an hour, the remote starts working a little better, but to be honest, I did what SLM said and changed the bulb...

This is because as you have these bulbs switched on longer they warm up and the frequency of the light generated changes so that it doesn't produce as much Infra-Red light at the "wrong" frequency any more.

Mike Harrison 25-03-2006 01:15

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Try a different make of bulb - the frequency of these is not tightly controlled, and will vary between units of the same type, brands, age and temperature.

Roy MM 25-03-2006 06:21

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My energy saving bulbs don't intefere with any of my remotes.

Swansea-Jack 25-03-2006 07:40

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Ok cheers, I'll try a diff brand and if that don't help then I'll have to go back to normal blulb.

claret 25-03-2006 07:44

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Originally Posted by Swansea-Jack
Ok cheers, I'll try a diff brand and if that don't help then I'll have to go back to normal blulb.

think its bad news when we all talk about saving energy, but yet silly things likeremotes not working has to stop this

Millay 25-03-2006 14:05

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We use LED bulbs in our house and they dont interefere, although they are an expensive bulb if you go for the 2Watt version.

Rillington 27-03-2006 04:57

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No interference here either. However, this whole notion totally astounds me in the same way that ntl won't work with certain types of television. Not exactly encouraging is it.

Swansea-Jack 27-03-2006 06:53

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Just a quick update, I changed it for another make bulb I had in the kitchen, and since then I have had no problems.

c1rcle 27-03-2006 07:45

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Can we name brands of bulbs that don't appear to cause this? just in case we can't, there's a BIG chain of Superstores, probably one of the biggest if not the biggest who's own brand bulbs haven't caused this problem for me, every little helps eh? ;)

mahli001 27-03-2006 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swansea-Jack
I know these play hell with NTL remotes, and right now mine is almost usless even within a foot of the box, anyone got any tips apart from turning the light off everytime I want to change station :dozey:

Wring them up and get a new one!

Swansea-Jack 27-03-2006 15:44

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Originally Posted by c1rcle
Can we name brands of bulbs that don't appear to cause this? just in case we can't, there's a BIG chain of Superstores, probably one of the biggest if not the biggest who's own brand bulbs haven't caused this problem for me, every little helps eh? ;)

The one that works fine has House & Home written on it, god knows what shop it came from though.

SLM 27-03-2006 21:07

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Originally Posted by Rillington
No interference here either. However, this whole notion totally astounds me in the same way that ntl won't work with certain types of television. Not exactly encouraging is it.

I do not think you can blame ntl re this as IR technology has been around a hell of a lot longer than energy saving bulbs and lcd/plasma tvs.

Graham M 27-03-2006 21:07

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NTL dont make the boxes or decide the IR Frequency either...

Rillington 29-03-2006 16:23

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True but I have never known any other problems before with any other kind of technology which is operated by remote controls such as TVs, video recorders, hifis etc. Only ntl.

Graham M 29-03-2006 16:38

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I think the manufacturers just made a poor choice when choosing the IR frequency to use

HD462 30-03-2006 21:01

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We had a similar, but even more ludicrous experience at Christmas. We bought my son a set of Lazer Tag guns. They're fancy ones that record the hits from the other guns, so they're always sending and receiving I guess.

As soon as we turned them on the Samsung cable box went haywire, flicking through channels of it's own accord and allsorts of weird stuff. As soon as we turned the guns off it stopped. But the remote still wouldn't take control of the box again until after we'd rebooted the cable box...weird.

Now he doesn't play with them in the lounge where the cable box is...lol :)

Didn't effect any of the other stuff with remotes though, hifi, tv, video, dvd.

Millay 30-03-2006 21:22

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Forgive me if I am wrong but my knowledge on this matter is not great. but the reason this would only affect your set top box and not your tv etc is they both use different forms of infrared to control each other.

TV's etc use a very simple for of infrared that only allows simple commands.

Sky NTL etc use irDA, this is a form of transfering data between devices (often seen in mobile phones and laptops etc. this is a more complex technology that can transfer data rather tahn simple light beams.

Thats why ya telly etc don't get confused, you could say it uses a dumb form of command!

Graham M 30-03-2006 21:47

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Not all of NTL's boxes use IRDA rather than Standard IR mind you

littld 30-03-2006 21:51

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No problems with lightbulbs on Sky

Millay 30-03-2006 21:52

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Hi Zeph was under the understanding that all digital boxes did use irDA, but as I said im no expert..

Graham M 30-03-2006 21:53

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Millay, the Samsung one does not, of that I am certain

Millay 30-03-2006 23:34

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arhh we learn something new everyday..

monkey6889 21-04-2006 20:13

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Hi can you help me i have a problem my channels keep on freezing i rang ntl and all they told me is that it was my light bulbs interfereing i have since changed my light bulbs and the problem is still there (even though i've had a new stb installed). can anyone give me some advice on this matter

Thanks in advance

Graeme :confused:

homealone 21-04-2006 20:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey6889
Hi can you help me i have a problem my channels keep on freezing i rang ntl and all they told me is that it was my light bulbs interfereing i have since changed my light bulbs and the problem is still there (even though i've had a new stb installed). can anyone give me some advice on this matter

Thanks in advance

Graeme :confused:

hi :welcome:

If the problem is still there, I would phone them again, at least this time you can answer 'no' to the 'have you got any energy saving or flourescent lights?' , question. :)

monkey6889 22-04-2006 10:02

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Originally Posted by homealone
hi :welcome:

If the problem is still there, I would phone them again, at least this time you can answer 'no' to the 'have you got any energy saving or flourescent lights?' , question. :)


I've phoned them and they are sending someone out on monday to hopefully get this sorted Cheers

nashmills 03-03-2007 06:35

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Can anyone report whether the new V+ boxes are affected by energy saving lightbulbs please?

Toto 03-03-2007 07:33

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Originally Posted by nashmills (Post 34240409)
Can anyone report whether the new V+ boxes are affected by energy saving lightbulbs please?

I have an upright floor lamp full of energy saving bulbs not some two feet from my V+ box, no problems there.

NTLVictim 03-03-2007 11:09

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Would more than one bulb in an array combine to alter the frequency?

Nedkelly 03-03-2007 16:06

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If you get a digital camera and point you a remote at it you can see the infa red .I have tried it on differnt remotes and you can see it as a white light from the remote .If you had the right stuff i wonder if you could look at a energy saving light bulb and a VM remote to see the clash .:tu:

scanner1 03-03-2007 16:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rillington (Post 714793)
No interference here either. However, this whole notion totally astounds me in the same way that ntl won't work with certain types of television. Not exactly encouraging is it.

I found this when I replaced my old CRT for an LCD tv, couln't figure out why the remote would not respond until the tele had been on for 3-5 mins, then it worked as normal.
The screens obviously give out some form of IR when warming up because when I bought a smaller LCD for the bedroom, in which I have a IR remote light dimmer switch, when I turned the tv on it faded the lights up then down then up and finally off. It doesn't effect any other remotes, I have the older Pace STB, I know this uses a different type of frequency than the newer boxes, maybe they are not affected?

VirginMediaSucks 03-03-2007 22:50

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I've found that the Pace box seems to be sensitive to other light sources, more so than anything else. (I have a new one, but my older one had the same issue).

A particular gotcha is if ANY other remote control is stuck in the "on" position.. for example if something is resting on a button or it's just plain faulty. If your Pace box suddenly gets unresponsive, then check for another IR transmitter. (Many mobile phones and laptops have IR as well, this could potentially cause intermittant problems)

As an aside, did you know that the IR bulb shows up on pretty much any digital camera or camcorder, including camera phones? It's a useful quick test to see if your remote is working properly..

nashmills 04-03-2007 06:44

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I've managed to get around the problem with my current Pace box. My energy saving lightbulbs have 2 settings, full and half brightness. Using the half brightness setting gets rid of the problem.


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