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scottyboydfc 22-03-2006 23:54

Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Hi there, I thought you guys may be able to help me.

I bought a Packard Bell iMedia 1302 in November 2004 and after a while I got annoyed with slow speeds so I decided to install a fresh copy of Windows XP (nothing to do with Packard Bell) and see how it went. It wasnt bad, but now I want to restore the PC to the original. I have a recovery dvd which I made myself when I first bought it. When I boot from it I get "error 10" "operating system<>cdrom."

If you need more info please ask.

Thanks in advance

maverick 23-03-2006 00:12

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Try tapping either F11 or F12 on boot up,if the Packard Bell recovery partition is still there it should give you the option to use it.

nffc 23-03-2006 00:15

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Probably needs re-tattooing because of the use of the CD. Has any hardware been changed and at what point does the error appear?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maverick
Try tapping either F11 or F12 on boot up,if the Packard Bell recovery partition is still there it should give you the option to use it.

He's created MCDs so the F11 won't work, it will have been removed.

scottyboydfc 23-03-2006 00:22

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
It boots up with CD as if it will re-install then in the packard bell menu it comes up with the error

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Oh yeah and how do i re-tattoo and what is that?

nffc 23-03-2006 00:34

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyboydfc
It boots up with CD as if it will re-install then in the packard bell menu it comes up with the error

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Oh yeah and how do i re-tattoo and what is that?

I'd not worry. So it starts reinstalling / copying files then comes up with the message? Screenshot if you can?

scottyboydfc 23-03-2006 00:46

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
2 Attachment(s)
[attach]Attachment 10943[/attach]

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hope this helps

nffc 23-03-2006 00:48

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
OK, drop down to a Dos command line by pressing Esc at that message
then type TS - hit enter
Choose Option 1 (Dos Commands) then Enter
Choose Option 1 again (should be something complex like TreeCRC bleh)

This will check your CD make sure there's no errors on that.

This message comes up before or after you opt to start the recovery? What comes up before?

Strzelecki 23-03-2006 01:20

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
If that passes ok then try this:
In DOS prompt as before run both of these commands:
q:\drivers\tattoo /importbin:c:\tattoo.bin
q:\drivers\exths /importextbin:c:\exths.bin

When this is done, reboot and boot off your recovery CD again. If your CD fails then you will have to purchase the recovery Disks/DVD. Contact nffc at PC Servicecall for that!

scottyboydfc 23-03-2006 08:56

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Strzelecki
If that passes ok then try this:
In DOS prompt as before run both of these commands:
q:\drivers\tattoo /importbin:c:\tattoo.bin
q:\drivers\exths /importextbin:c:\exths.bin

When this is done, reboot and boot off your recovery CD again. If your CD fails then you will have to purchase the recovery Disks/DVD. Contact nffc at PC Servicecall for that!

Tried that. When doin the 1st 1 it says "bin.exe" "no bin file"
2nd 1. "File Error"

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc
OK, drop down to a Dos command line by pressing Esc at that message
then type TS - hit enter
Choose Option 1 (Dos Commands) then Enter
Choose Option 1 again (should be something complex like TreeCRC bleh)

This will check your CD make sure there's no errors on that.

This message comes up before or after you opt to start the recovery? What comes up before?

This comes up before I get to chose anything. It boots, goes through lots of Command Line and then I get the message

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+no errors on cd, hard drive, or ram. checked them all

Strzelecki 23-03-2006 11:39

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Right sounds to me like you have damaged the hidden sector. A retattoo should work. The procedure is here http://forum.packardbell.com/en/view...ghlight=tattoo
but I would strongly suggest giving PC Servicecall and ring on 0870 9013000 and they will run you through it step by step and give you the password required at the end (I can't give that out publicly, PM me or nffc if you want to do it without their help).

nffc 23-03-2006 12:54

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Yeah, a tattoo is pretty important, if you screw it up by selecting the wrong thing, the recovery will not install the right things.

Try this sequence of commands...
· Change to Q:\drivers or C:\drivers
· Tattoo /inithspretest
· Tattoo /createdmifromhs
· Q:\reloadhs.bat
· Tattoo /createdmifromhs

scottyboydfc 23-03-2006 20:55

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Thanks guys. really dont know what i done. bit of a fluke really. i posted the same problem on packard bell forums and even they couldn't help. Thanks again

nffc 23-03-2006 22:16

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Did that tattoo work?

scottyboydfc 23-03-2006 22:21

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Yes, it did. thats probably wot fixed it cheers m8

nffc 23-03-2006 22:36

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by scottyboydfc
Yes, it did. thats probably wot fixed it cheers m8

I suppose it would have helped if you'd been given the right commands to begin with :rolleyes:

Someone... should have known the right command set to use to tattoo with created MCDs (which of course contains that machine's tattoo info)...
You do realise at the "Advanced Options" menu of the 1-4 the CD recovery gives you, you can smart-restore the OS only? And also, the bundled apps can be removed using
Start > All Programs > PB support > Smart Restore...
You should never have needed to wipe with the XP disk :)

Then again i had to look that up, all the tattoo /PB info i have is at work and i'm in the middle of 10 days off :woot:

Feel free to post or PM if you need any further PB advice, unless you bought the 3yr/5yr warranty you won't be touched on the 0870s which should save you 1.50 a minute :)

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Ooh and i'm 14 off 4k too :)

scottyboydfc 24-03-2006 00:11

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
13 now lol;)

Royals 23-11-2008 19:24

Re: Packard Bell BSOD
 
can anyone help im having a problem with my packard bell istart 2214, ive tried to do a repair with my vista home disc, and my computer will not boot up or start up in safe mode due to a missing or corupt file, e.g ntkrnlpa.exe is missing or corupt, has anyone got a solution to this problem as ive done everything i can to try and fix myself, im ready to had it over to sum over priced pc repair man to fix it, and also my recovery disc i got with the pc does not work either, please help if you can thankyou

zing_deleted 23-11-2008 19:41

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Did the install finish? have you tried start up repair thats found when you boot the dvd ?

Royals 24-11-2008 00:25

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
no the install didnt finished it stopped doing the recovery, and the repair didnt work either just keeps rebooting due to the missing or corupt file ntkrnlpa.exe.
is it a hardware problem? and will it do my motherboard harm trying to fix or is my motherboard damaged due to this problem with the file?

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ive tried almost everything i can think of to fix this problem even tried to replace the files and delete them from windows by putting my harddrive in another pc as a spare to delete them and ive cleared the CMOS to see if that but didnt im out of ideas now so im asking for help in this matter

zing_deleted 24-11-2008 11:42

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
your vista dvd is it a full disc? if your install didnt finish then thats why your having problems. If it wa smy machine I would do a full install from scratch

Royals 24-11-2008 13:18

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
no sorry u mis understood what im saying i have a recovery disc as well as windows vista home, it was recovery disc that stopped and didnt finish so i did a full new install with my windows vista disc that completed the install but i still get the BSOD and it still will not boot up due to this file, and cant start in safe mode either, so this is why im on this very helpful forum to ask for altnertives way of fixing this problem i have, p.s thankyou david for your help so far

zing_deleted 24-11-2008 13:27

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
you get a BSOD? whats the error report on this can you see it? Have you tried the start up repair option on the Vista dvd ? when it gets to install now under that it says reapir my computer . Go there and try the repairs.

When you installed afresh did you delete the existing partition? sometimes a new install on an existing partition can lead to start up problems

Royals 24-11-2008 20:22

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
it just says ntkrnlpa.exe is missing or corupt on the repair disc does work either when ive done the repair, and yes i deleted the excisting partion before i did a fresh install, this is whats doing my head in nothing seems to repair it so i can boot up and run regcure to do the scan see if that would repair the problem all i get is my computer restarting all the time even in safe mode

Royals 25-11-2008 01:05

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Royals (Post 34682172)
it just says ntkrnlpa.exe is missing or corupt on the repair disc doesn't work either when ive done the repair, and yes i deleted the excisting partion before i did a fresh install, this is whats doing my head in nothing seems to repair it so i can boot up and run regcure to do the scan see if that would repair the problem all i get is my computer restarting all the time even in safe mode


zafarahmed 20-01-2009 03:49

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
hi every1:

just wanted to let you know i was stuck with all these problems and managed to get around them and install xp. if you need any help with tattoo your harddrive or to fix error 10, just email me on Admin edit: Deleted

tkcre

zing_deleted 20-01-2009 10:55

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
not a good idea posting your email address. Also just let the world know and post a guide I am sure it would be appreciated

:welcome:

Stuart 20-01-2009 10:58

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zafarahmed (Post 34718763)
hi every1:

just wanted to let you know i was stuck with all these problems and managed to get around them and install xp. if you need any help with tattoo your harddrive or to fix error 10, just email me on Admin edit: Deleted

tkcre

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fagan 12-12-2009 19:50

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
thanks reading this forum helped a lot, have got recovery back now
thank's again
Fagan

Polzie1000 01-02-2011 01:12

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Hi,

I have come to this forum after much messing about trying to get an old PB to reformat.

I have damaged the partition. And followed the above to try and get the thing to do a retattoo.

It wont let me do anything. When i go to dos prompts 1,1 - treecrc......

I just get an CDR101 : Not ready reading drive Q

any solutions?

SdeurDorpe 03-10-2011 12:19

Re: Packard Bell Recovery Problem
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nffc (Post 712231)
Yeah, a tattoo is pretty important, if you screw it up by selecting the wrong thing, the recovery will not install the right things.

Try this sequence of commands...
· Change to Q:\drivers or C:\drivers
· Tattoo /inithspretest
· Tattoo /createdmifromhs
· Q:\reloadhs.bat
· Tattoo /createdmifromhs

I've got the same problem as the opening poster. I tried the above but get stuck on reloadhs.bat. It says:

C:\>\drivers\exths.exe /importextbin:\exths.bin
Bad command or file name

Since there is no \drivers\-folder listed under C: I tried manually typing in:

Q:\drivers\exths.exe /importextbin:\exths.bin

But that gives me a file error.

Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong?


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