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ntl customer 13-03-2006 14:12

HD cloning software wanted
 
I'm after some software that'll clone my old HD to my new one, so that I can do whatever I need to recover it without making changes to the original on the other drive.

In a nutshell - to copy the hard drive EXACTLY in situ to the new one.

All software solutions I've found are either crippled in some way, or require you to fork out money, which I don't want to, since it's already costing me quite a bit for a replacement disk. It's driving me up the wall!

Can anyone recommend some free solutions for doing this - it needs to run from a bootable CD, since Windows is corrupted on the other machine.

ADMIN EDIT (Russ) - I'm sure you know why I removed that last line.

Graham M 13-03-2006 14:14

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
Can you not just plug the HDD with the Corrupted Windows install into your working PC to recover the files?

ntl customer 13-03-2006 14:17

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
The only problem. The old PC is, well, old and has no SATA slots.

Plus, the file system on the HD in question (the "busted" one) has some problems with it and not all the files are accessible. I'm going to run a "chkdsk" on it to see what happens, but I want to clone the disk to the new drive so that if anything does go tits-up (as with experience from last time when I did do a "chkdsk" on what appeared to be a dodgy drive), it chucked all the data it found into a found.000 folder and munged up the names.

Graham M 13-03-2006 14:20

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But your new PC should have standard IDE slots as well?

ntl customer 13-03-2006 14:22

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
Yes it does, but the drive which is "busted" is an SATA one. Hence the problem of me not being able to use it in the old computer.

Aragorn 13-03-2006 14:23

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How about this free one? (linked from Wiki disk cloning page) Note - section 4.4 taks about local disk copy.

Ramrod 13-03-2006 14:25

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Originally Posted by Aragorn
How about this free one?

Bluddy hell! That looks a bit technical :disturbd: :dunce:

ntl customer 13-03-2006 14:35

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Originally Posted by Ramrod
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Originally Posted by Aragorn
How about this free one?

Bluddy hell! That looks a bit technical :disturbd: :dunce:

You're not wrong there!

So, if I wanted to copy my old disk to the new one, I'd type at the command line - copydisk wd0 wd1

And that'd do a 1:1 copy of the disk?

homealone 13-03-2006 14:35

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I don't know if this is worth a look, it seems to be like xcopy on steroids.

http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/clone_copy.htm

- it will copy a disk but doesn't touch the boot sector, so that has to be done seperately with fdisk.

Aragorn 13-03-2006 14:37

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
Looks that way - not tried it myself yet, but certainly would do if I was going to clone my disk (something I should get around to while it still works!)

zing_deleted 13-03-2006 14:44

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I would just use norton ghost not free not expensive but works a treat used it for an age

pedantic 13-03-2006 14:49

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You can also use True Image from Acronis, Amazon sell version 8 for a tenner :D

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...213812-8382211

ntl customer 13-03-2006 15:45

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
I'm currently acquiring a copy of Norton Ghost as I write so I'll try that first, since from a quick leaf through the docs on the website it appears to be quite easy to use, and reasonably foolproof.

If Ghost requires a floppy bootdisk, then I'll try G4U and see what happens. It's the dipping into the unknown that somewhat scares me, that's all.

Ramrod 13-03-2006 16:16

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Unfortunatly for me, neither ghost or true image work on 64bit xp :(

Graham M 13-03-2006 16:16

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
If you're reasonably good with Linux then there are a few ways using a Live Distro too

pedantic 13-03-2006 16:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Unfortunatly for me, neither ghost or true image work on 64bit xp :(

What about this http://www.winimage.com/winimage.htm ;)

Graham M 13-03-2006 16:37

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Try Norton Ghost 7 or 8, they were pre- the windows Interface and the Windows Application basically just wrote a boot disk. Also Google for Hiren's Boot CD 6 (may be a newer version now) - try Filemirrors.com as this includes Norton Ghost as well as many other useful diagnostical programs. It runs off a CD and boots into a kind of DOS mode so is independant of your Windows version and System Architecture

LSainsbury 13-03-2006 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ntl customer
I'm currently acquiring a copy of Norton Ghost as I write....

So that'll be a torrent download then? :erm:

Stuart 13-03-2006 16:46

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
One of our lecturers at work swears by http://www.drive-image.com/

Graham M 13-03-2006 16:46

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Originally Posted by lsainsbury
So that'll be a torrent download then? :erm:

LoL no he's sitting there by the letter box like a dog waiting for it to pop through :erm: :)

ntl customer 13-03-2006 16:59

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Originally Posted by lsainsbury
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Originally Posted by ntl customer
I'm currently acquiring a copy of Norton Ghost as I write....

So that'll be a torrent download then? :erm:

No comment. :p:

This newer version of norton ghost is no good. It'll only image the current system and HDs loaded into this old computer.. *deletes*

I'll have a look for Hiren's Boot CD. Sounds like just the ticket.

v0id 13-03-2006 17:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph
Try Norton Ghost 7 or 8, they were pre- the windows Interface and the Windows Application basically just wrote a boot disk. Also Google for Hiren's Boot CD 6 (may be a newer version now) - try Filemirrors.com as this includes Norton Ghost as well as many other useful diagnostical programs. It runs off a CD and boots into a kind of DOS mode so is independant of your Windows version and System Architecture

yep that's the best version of ghost I've got. Got me out of a few sticky situations with some older systems

zing_deleted 13-03-2006 17:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
Unfortunatly for me, neither ghost or true image work on 64bit xp :(

Ghost does what do you think I use????

The 2003 version I use does a full back up of the whole disk/partition
I also have a Ghost dos boot cd I made ages ago thats just copied the disk and doesnt need to be run in windows anyway

Gareth 13-03-2006 17:31

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Originally Posted by ntl customer
ADMIN EDIT (Russ) - I'm sure you know why I removed that last line.

Bah, I missed out... what was the last line...? :confused:

ntl customer 13-03-2006 22:53

Thank you!!!!!
 
Well, it looks like we're up and running again.

Norton Ghost v8 did the trick. Great piece of software it is too for imaging - one to keep for a rainy day I guess.

I'd also like to say a big thank you to all forum members who participated in the thread offering files and general help.

This might sound a bit schamaltzy, but it means a lot to me, since the data on this drive was important, and also I'm glad to be off this museum piece I've been using for the past 2 weeks. So please, have a drink on me. :tu: :)

---------- Post added at 22:53 ---------- Previous post was at 22:51 ----------

And as for what Russ said, I think I was a bit of a naughty boy. I'll leave it at that. :p

xathras 14-03-2006 00:09

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
you can download a livecd and copy it drive to drive, that works for me.

I also use Acronis True Image for windows.

Chicken 14-03-2006 00:26

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
I used the free HDClone at http://www.miray.de/download/sat.hdclone.html last time I need to do that - its also part of the Ultimate Boot CD http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - which is something I recommend everyone to get a copy of as a 'just in case' set of utilities.

ntl customer 14-03-2006 15:26

Re: HD cloning software wanted
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicken
I used the free HDClone at http://www.miray.de/download/sat.hdclone.html last time I need to do that - its also part of the Ultimate Boot CD http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ - which is something I recommend everyone to get a copy of as a 'just in case' set of utilities.

I tried HDClone, but the free version was extremely fussy, and refused to detect my sata disks in any shape or form. Plus, I had to google for the free English version because their website kept on giving me the German download, even though I was on the English version of the site. I wasn't impressed!

The last time I did German was about 5 years ago - there was no way I was going to spend hours rummaging around in a phrasebook/dictionary to use the software. :rofl:

I shall be kepping all my emergency boot cds/ghosting utils in a useful place for a rainy day.


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