[Merged]Hi Def DVD Format Wars
 

DVD wars about to take off. story

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Thats a bit of good news at least.....

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Which is why I won't be buying either of them until it's clear who wins the format war. When will they learn ... :rolleyes:

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This is old news this war has been going on for a while,There is however a new contender that will eventually win http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,3...2107853,00.htm

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It's arguable whether you can have a true format war before the players actually go on sale. True, the developers have been fighting over it for many months now, but the real battle begins only when Joe Public gets to choose which one to buy.

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The problem here is that different film producers are following different types,This will create the problem of production.At the end of the day a Dvd 9 carries enough data for a bloody good image and sound,To get the most out of blue ray and hd dvd you need a hd tv and you will need a new hi fi carrying the new hi def sound with even more speakers and more sound

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I dont think either will prosper. People are quite happy with dvd and theres no real motivation for a change

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Luddite.:D They said the same thing about the Spinning Jenny,;)

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no but in this case I see it as a possibility.These new formats are going to be splitting the film companies.They will not be selling there movies in both formats.and as for trusting that quantity of data to a single disc horrifies me (when burners come out)
And as my above link shows theres a new contender in the form of holographic dvd which will hold a hugely larger quantity of infromation

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I think that too.
Its way too early to change the DVD format. I would give it atleast another five years.
Most people dont have HD-TV's and as has been said, a whole range of new equipment would be needed.
The first models will be priced sky high so I doubt anyone will be able to afford it until a good while.

It reminds me a bit when the huge vinyl sized laser discs came out. Very expensive machines and then eventually got replaced by the DVD.

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The fabled phillips video 2000 ;)

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I'm sure the motivation can be generated soon enough.

All it takes is for the industry to start releasing the much-wanted stuff on a new format, or to reduce the DVD output significantly, and people will be very quick to start buying.

With the 'limited' storage capacity (e.g. DVD vs. hard disk) a new format offering higher data density will always be popular in some circles.

And with the new format, I have no doubt there is even more scope for the industry to thwart the copiers - another likely reason the industry will put it's weight behind it.

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People might not necessarily replace their DVD players, but a helluva lot of people will be buying either a PS3 or an XBox360. The PS3 will have a Blu-Ray drive by default, and the XBox360 will soon support an external HD-DVD drive. Although these will initially be used primarily for gaming purposes, it's not inconceivable that they will also help with the acceptance/integration for watching films too.

Imagine the scenario where you have a PS3 with a built-in Blu-Ray drive already hooked-up to your Hi-Def TV which is capable of playing the latest Hollywood blockbusters... would you necessarily want to also splash-out on buying a HD-DVD player that only offers the same functionality that your PS3 can offer? The same goes for any XBox360 owners with external HD-DVD drives... they won't want to buy a Blu-Ray player.

Whichever console takes off as being the market dominator may, imo, help shape the future of these 2 video players.

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I think we may be quite far into digital distirbution by the time these formats become true contenders to the dvd.

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you will need both to play all movies as I have said movie companies are supporting different formats so to watch all movies in hi definition you will need either both consoles of both players

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But didn't Sony Pictures (or Columbia as it was back then) only support Betamax instead of JVC's VHS format, until they finally admitted defeat in 1988 and switched completely to only manufacturing VHS recorders and only producing films to VHS..?

I've never used a Betamax VCR, but weren't they supposed to be technically superior to VHS, but JVC's marketing strategy beat Sony's?

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problem as i see it is we are moving forward so fast they cant keep up.How many years have passed since vhs was born till the birth of dvd/? loads longer than dvd to lue ray /hd dvd and as ive said already a few times theres already the next stage in view

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This time Sony will win. By putting blu-ray in the ps3 thats a master stroke.

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Yeah, good point. I might not bother with blu-ray nor hd-dvd, and go to whatever comes after it.

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http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/0,3...2107853,00.htm holographic dvd sometimes I feel like I dont exist ;)

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By which time things will have moved on again.

With new tech there are 3 main bying approaches:

1) Early adopter of bleeding edge technology - expensive, you will soon have outdated equipment and if you picked the wrong one, you might only have an expensive doorstop after.

2) Wait for the technology to mature - much less expensive, more reliable and you're not likely to end up with useless hardware. But the total lifespan of the technology would be less, as new things take over.

3) Wait for the sunset of the technology - here you pick up bargains (if you can find them) and get red-hot yesteryear technology. It's ultra reliable (though media/spares may be rare) and may even see you through till the next technological sunset.

Yours is the 4th - you may find that much harder to do, because while technology moves apace each year, the industry isn't going to gear up for a new tech every couple of years - they have to recoup their investment - so either of these technologies is likely to be around for quite some time.

Personally, with HD-TV looming large in the living room, I think the buying public will find choosing anything with a HD- tag much more obvious than than 'Blu-ray' - remember how long it took for Bluetooth to become kinda familiar to the general public.

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Just wait a little longer and enough storage to fit your entire life on video will be no bigger than a small, translucent plastic chip. ( as per Star Trek...)

HD DVD: Blu-ray Has Problems
 

Interesting news for those Hi Def afficionados out there....

Full article here.

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Ahem ...

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ght=format+war

Do you want to merge it or shall I? :angel: :p: :D

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Done. :)

Incidentally-that thread you linked to above had a title of "Here we go again" ;)

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You bought Betamax too, huh? ;)