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Russ 04-01-2006 12:26

What is wrong with the world?
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/4579802.stm

First a 6 year old child is abducted and sexually assaulted and now this...it beggers belief.

Chris 04-01-2006 12:32

Re: What is wrong with the world?
 
Gary Clail and the On-U Sound System summed it up about 15 years ago...

"There's something wrong with human nature!"

Derek 04-01-2006 12:32

Re: What is wrong with the world?
 
There are just some sick, sick people in this world.

At least in this case it seems they have the people responsible.

ScaredWebWarrior 04-01-2006 12:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris T
"There's something wrong with human nature!"

Which wasn't anything new then, and isn't now. Evil walks among us all the time and always has.

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Originally Posted by dezzo
There are just some sick, sick people in this world.

And mad people, evil people, stupid people, greedy people, selfish people etc...

At their extremes, all of these are a blight on humanity.
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Originally Posted by dezzo
At least in this case it seems they have the people responsible.

Considering they were caught red-handed I think this should be a foregone conclusion.

I hope if/when this comes to trial the judge won't think the prisons are too full...

Enuff 04-01-2006 13:22

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"This is an extremely rare event which makes it all the more shocking," Oh really? I think its more common than they are letting on! and still would be shocking even if it were an everyday accurance. :mad:

ScaredWebWarrior 04-01-2006 13:24

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Originally Posted by Dodger444
"This is an extremely rare event which makes it all the more shocking," Oh really? I think its more common than they are letting on! and still would be shocking even if it were an everyday accurance. :mad:

I think they meant the police actually catching someone... :erm:

Ramrod 04-01-2006 13:49

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Christ....If the car hadn't driven through a red light the little girl would probably have been killed by now.
On face value I feel like the guy they caught in the car with the girl should just be shot out of hand. They put down mad dogs and vermin don't they?

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
I hope if/when this comes to trial the judge won't think the prisons are too full...

read this :mad:
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Anti-drug campaigners reacted with dismay after a judge allowed a heroin dealer to walk free because prisons are full.

Thomas Scarth, 19, was caught by undercover police with 83 wraps of heroin and his own business cards.
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What hope of deterrence have we got when this kind of thing goes on:

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A mother whose three children were killed by their babysitter has criticised the decision to allow the murderer out of prison on unsupervised trips. Dorothy Urry, 54, said that David McGreavy was still a risk to the public, adding that she was still haunted by the deaths of her children: Paul, 4, Dawn, 2, and Samantha, 9 months.

A lodger at Mrs Urryâ₠¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s home in Worcester, McGreavy, 54, was babysitting the children when he used a razor and curtain wire to kill them after the youngest started crying. He then impaled the bodies on a neighbourââ‚ ¬â„¢s railings. He was jailed for life in 1973.

Over the past six weeks McGreavy has been allowed out of Ford prison in West Sussex without guards to stay at a hostel in Liverpool, it was reported. These trips are designed to prepare prisoners for release.

Mrs Urry said: †œWhy should this man be allowed out of prison to start a new life? He is still torturing me and this pain is going to be with me until I die.â₠¬Ã‚

A spokesman for the Home Office said it could not comment on individual cases.
:dozey:

NitroNutter 04-01-2006 21:05

Re: What is wrong with the world?
 
It would be quicker to answer "what is right in the world" or to be abit more blunt "what would be wrong with the world without human nature" ;)

Maggy 04-01-2006 21:12

Re: What is wrong with the world?
 
Unfortunately we sometimes need the reminder and the contrast to see the wide divide between those who are deeply evil and those who are so truly inspiring and wonderful.

I sometimes think that without the one we may not always appreciate the other. :(

I'm sure that the judiciary will do their job as proscribed under the law..:tu:

Hom3r 05-01-2006 17:36

[Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
I making no appologies here,

People like this do NOT deseve to breath the same air as the rest of us.

The courts won't lock them up long enough.

The should be take to he middle of Darmoor and shot in the stomach and left to a very slow agonising death.

Failing that left in a room with the mother, who would make them suffer.

Vigilanties in this case would be 100% jusifiable, for make these *******s suffer.

I only hope that this little girl is to young to remember what has happened to her.

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...489676,00.html

Ramrod 05-01-2006 18:02

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Police holding three men on suspicion of kidnap and rape of a toddler believe there were attempts to entice other children into a car on the same day.
link

Not to mention this:
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Detectives have been given more time to question the three men and a forensic examination is continuing at a property in Newport.

Gwent Probation Service confirmed that the property was used to house newly-released prisoners.
Looks like someone scr*wed up big time releasing this lot of 'rehabilitated' paedophiles! :mad:

Paul K 05-01-2006 18:08

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Lets just hope that the sick, evil, twisted people responsible for these attacks are removed from the streets as soon as possible. No doubt it will be a long, long time before people feel safe to allow their kids to play out on their own again.

Ramrod 05-01-2006 18:12

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Originally Posted by Paul
Lets just hope that the sick, evil, twisted people responsible for these attacks are removed from the streets as soon as possible.

Trouble is that the small percentage that they do actually catch are let out again......:disturbd:

budwieser 05-01-2006 18:24

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Lets just hope that these Vile *******s are locked up for a very Long time and made to pay, Every Day, Very Painfully, by the other inmates.:mad:

Paul 05-01-2006 18:55

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Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
Simple - punishments are now so weak that people are no longer deterred by the thought of them. Convicted child rapists should never see the light of day again, nor should many other criminals.

Russ 05-01-2006 22:31

Re: [Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
Coward

Ramrod 06-01-2006 15:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ D

If he's the one then he did everyone a favour....

TheDaddy 06-01-2006 23:20

Re: [Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
It seems to me that nobody faces up to the consequences of their actions these days, people dont seem to feel shame now days

danielf 06-01-2006 23:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
If he's the one then he did everyone a favour....

And if he's not, Russ might feel a little embarrassed (I know I would).

Russ 07-01-2006 00:07

Re: [Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
I'd heard it on very good authority that the police won't be looking for anyone else in connection with the abduction.

And just because he took his own life doesn't mean his problems end there.

etccarmageddon 07-01-2006 00:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
Simple - punishments are now so weak that people are no longer deterred by the thought of them. Convicted child rapists should never see the light of day again, nor should many other criminals.

you're so right.

Xaccers 07-01-2006 00:46

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Originally Posted by etccarmageddon
you're so right.

Not just the punishment though.
For instance, if the sentance was life in prison, it wouldn't be much of a deterrant if the chances of being caught were nealry zero.
We need strong sentances to keep dangerous people away from the public, and high detection/conviction rates to deter people from doing it in the first place.

Hom3r 10-01-2006 16:38

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WTF is going on 3 times in as many weeks

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...208548,00.html

put these *******s:mad: in with ordinary decent crimials and let the guards turn many a blind eye.

Xaccers 10-01-2006 16:44

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Originally Posted by david.ewles
WTF is going on 3 times in as many weeks

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...208548,00.html

put these *******s:mad: in with ordinary decent crimials and let the guards turn many a blind eye.

Honestly? it's topical, and happens to co-inside with the other dreadful crimes mentioned in this thread.
the actual rape took place some time ago, they've only just been sentanced, and thankfully the bloke got life.
if the other cases weren't in the news at the moment, this one probably wouldn't have been either.

Hom3r 10-01-2006 16:45

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Have reread this story kill these $^%& slowly and painfully as possible.

They have committed two of the worst crimes both on a baby. Justice sucks let the people deal the punishment.

I saw on a video clip from a website, it was a news broadcast from a area where the two convicted men (who raped and murdered a girl) where put up against the wall at shot by the family of the victim, with machine guns.

we should do that hear.

Xaccers 10-01-2006 17:18

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How can you be sure that the person found guilty actually did it? that is why I am against the death penalty.

better to make them serve life at a bare minimal acceptable level of life.
They've shown themselves to be uncivilised, so they should be excluded from civilisation. Life in solitary confinement should do.

Hom3r 10-01-2006 17:34

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Dna

Bill C 10-01-2006 17:40

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Originally Posted by Xaccers
How can you be sure that the person found guilty actually did it? that is why I am against the death penalty.

better to make them serve life at a bare minimal acceptable level of life.
They've shown themselves to be uncivilised, so they should be excluded from civilisation. Life in solitary confinement should do.

But the problem is Life does not mean Life in this country.

There are to many Human Rights laws to contend with in this country now.

marky 10-01-2006 17:48

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Originally Posted by david.ewles
Dna

Yep, i agree, if it is undisputed DNA evidence with "you know what" present, they should be hung.

ScaredWebWarrior 10-01-2006 17:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy
It seems to me that nobody faces up to the consequences of their actions these days, people dont seem to feel shame now days

On the contrary - I think he must have felt the shame to bring him to top himself. (OK, assuming he did the crime!)

I'd rather these monsters took themselves permanently out of the gene pool, than to have them get a ridiculously short jail sentence etc.
After all these cases the families always say the sentence isn't enough - now they've got a hanging, what more could they want?

Xaccers 10-01-2006 18:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C
But the problem is Life does not mean Life in this country.

There are to many Human Rights laws to contend with in this country now.

Which is why I said they should be locked away and pretty much forgotten about for the rest of their lives.
They excluded themselves from society and civilisation by commiting such uncivilised crimes (we aren't the ancient greeks) and so should be treated as such.

As for DNA evidence, how do you know for certain that a dodgy policeman thinking he was doing the world a favour didn't plant it, or a mixup in the lap didn't occur?
I'd rather not send someone to their death and then find out later that they actually didn't do it.
I'd also rather not give someone the "easy way out" when life away from human contact in a small cell seems a much better punishment.

Derek 11-01-2006 17:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramrod
If he's the one then he did everyone a favour....

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...208735,00.html

And it looks like he wasn't the one after all.

Russ 11-01-2006 17:04

Re: [Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
That's very strange. I have a contact within South Wales Police who claimed it was taken as read within the force that he was connected in some way.

marky 11-01-2006 17:12

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poor chap, thats one for my prayer list, a whole country calling him better of dead :(

Ramrod 11-01-2006 17:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dezzo
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...208735,00.html

And it looks like he wasn't the one after all.

Good job I said 'if' :erm:

zaax 11-01-2006 18:47

Re: [Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
With a country that only gives 10 - 15 years for murder what else do you thing you will get.

Damien 11-01-2006 19:23

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This is parhaps a reason why suspects should not be named until they are found guilty

Xaccers 12-01-2006 08:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Damien
This is parhaps a reason why suspects should not be named until they are found guilty

Yes, with all cases, not just serious ones.

Damien 12-01-2006 21:07

Re: [Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4607750.stm

Dam right too!

Their are a lot of people who should be ashamed right now

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Mr Bayley's sister Penny Anderson said: "People have been in our back gardens and we have had to keep the kids off school.
"We are really frightened to go out of our own house. Nobody can get to Lee now, but they can get to his family. That's the way people work.
"I feel totally relieved, even though I knew he couldn't do anything like that. But it's a relief that other people know that now."
The family believe the memory of car crash in which Mr Bayley lost a friend was in his mind at the time of his death.
Makes you sick, this has hurt so many people! Who ever did this to the girl is not the only monster right now


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Originally Posted by Xaccers
Yes, with all cases, not just serious ones.

Wont happen though, Theres nothing better than a national union of hatred to being out the worst in people :(

Pia 13-01-2006 02:11

Re: [Merged] Toddler Raped - What Is Wrong With The World?
 
it has been on the local news tonight that a link has been found... in my street:erm:

I got this from my mother though and its breaking news so no link as yet...

A few years ago (like about 8) a 6 year old girl in my area was abducted, raped and left, much the same as this one. Police have been flying about round here and my mam said on the news that they were reporting it to be a link to the bath rape from tyneside.
I guess all will be revealed. It makes me sick.


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