Is it possible to get an upload speed increase if I pay a little extra?
 

Is it possible to get an upload speed increase if I pay a little extra?

200Kbps is not enough when I run a HTTP and FTP server. 512Kbps would be more suitable.

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Soon (January) you will be able to upgrade to 10MBit/s which comes with an upload speed of 512kbit/s for free anyway...

You just need to be patient :)

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I know but I intend to download a lot so it would be nice to have the unlimited usage rather than 75gb. I was just wondering if I could pay for an increase on my 2Mbps service or not.

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I don't believe you can do that. Although I am prepared to be corrected.

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OK thanks for the replies. Ill ring CS next week when I get chance. Im having huge problems with my server at the moment. My new motherboard and cpu I bought just 2 days ago has given up the ghost so that has to go back.

Now Im using a Slot 1 P3 500MHz SCSI server *ugh*

Bad day for me. :(

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Windows 2000 would be a better choice of OS on that Spec than Windows XP :)

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Ive run Windows XP on a 200MHz PI system with 96MB RAM and it booted up faster than my fresh install of XP on my 2GHz, 512MB RAM laptop ;)

I know what im doing, leave me to it :D

PS, my friend has run it on a pre pentium 486 (33mhz) pc before with just 64MB of RAM, and it didnt do too bad.:dozey:

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Are you sure? I'm not sure WinXP would run on something as low spec as that...

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I've had XP running on a 64mb machine with a p166... But I wouldn't want to repeat the experience :)

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Well it runs XP, takes about 4 mins to boot up but it works. Its a little slow when it comes to actually doing stuff with it.

At least we proved it could be done.

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yes its definatly possible... ran it on a p2 233mhz laptop with 96mb ram before.

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i ran XP on a celeron after taking all but 32MB of ram out by mistake once... worked, but booting took 15-20 mins! :erm:

the usable minimum for XP is usually quoted as 128MB, IIRC...

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The box says minimum 64MB but recommended is 128MB.

Also, minimum 233MHz, but recommended 500MHz. This is on an XP Home box. I run professional but have lost the box. :mad:

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Annnnnyway back on the topic (title), no, it doesn't work like that and you won't get a tailored upgrade like that.

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No. The 2 meg will remain at 200K upload. The only way to get more will be to switch to the 10M/512K service, which btw will not have a 75GB cap unless you pay £37.99 (£34.99 in 2006). The cap will be lower (30GB I believe).

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It'll crawl rather than run .....

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alternatively, you could get 2 x 2Mbit lines for double the upload - assuming you have more than one computer that is...!

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But how would I link them together? I am running a server, upload is the evil. Download I dont need 2Mbps of, I could cope with them being the other way around, 2Mbps upload, 200Kbps Download :p:

Also I wanted a cheap way to do it, not a double in price :(

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you could link them both up to one pc (2 ethernet cards) but it would be a major faff... would be better as 2 separate servers.

but as you say, expensive, unless you get in on any offers...

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Have you thought about paid hosting as an alternative... there are packages available from 99p/month which will get you much better speeds to your server.

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He might be running a Game Server, this also requires lots of Upload.
If Upload matters to you that much, the Only option I see about now is to pay £37.99 a month (Soon to be £34.99) and with this you will have 500K upload and plenty download speed for yourself. If it is a Web server, running this from a home connection (even 500k) is plain daft, $6.95 a month buys you:

A Domain name
10 GIG of web space
250GIG Transfer per Month
Plus all the other stuff you get with a web hosting

BlueHost

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Yes I know all of this. I do have pro hosting but they dont have what I need any more. Also its not dedicated, sometimes its very very slow and completely unusable.

Hosting a server at home solves this. Also I need to run the Abyss Web Server, the only way to do this with paid hosting is to buy a root access server, which cost just that bit more.

Having a server at home also allows faster updates, you have to remember the slow upload again when it comes to transferring larger files to the FTP. If the server goes down, its my fault, and no one elses, and it relies on me to fix it.

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Dedicated servers aren't as expensive as they used to be

you can get servers in the US for $80 or so (sometimes less) on 10mbit with 1000gb bandwith depending on what you want in the way of spec.

http://webhostingtalk.com is a good place to look for a host.

as for downtime a server in a DC is more likely to be up more than a server at your house seing as they have redundent power and usally multiple routes to the internet.

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I have redundant power, 1 hour of it, but you'd be supprised at how good the uptime actually is.

http://www.mralert.com/stats/3759/

Thats my uptime for the last few months. Some days are really bad, thats either when the server is playing up or my router decides to crash. Im trying to invest in a new one as soon as I can. The days with 98% are actually 100% but the Mr Alert times out after 5 seconds. Sometimes its longer than 5 seconds to render a dynamic page such as the home page so I recently changed it to a text file for a more accurate uptime.

97.8% uptime is good for a home connection.


EDIT: Does anyone know if NTL has redundant power on their connections? So if the power goes out but I have redundant power I can still connect?

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Due to a local Power Area fault i know that the Local Green Cabs do not have redundancy

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Our Test server is a VPS server and costs only £45 month, it's one of the medium range specs you can get. You can get them for as little as £30 month (a VPS server appears to you as a real, dedicated server, with full root access etc).

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I pay £20ish ($39.95)/month for my VPS server with 10GB of Space, 300GB Bandwidth, 200Mhz Minimum CPU, 4x 2.4GHz Maximum CPU, 256MB Minimum RAM, 4GB Maximum RAM. This any good?

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Is that a generic question to anyone ? if so the answer is yes, that's pretty good.

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It was kind of a question to you Paul and sort of a side-question to Abyss

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seems expensive for a vps, I don't pay much more than that for my dedicated server and thats including the $25 extra for the cpanel licence. :Yikes:

I host my mates sites and they help with the server costs ;)

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Well I pay £6.99/m for my shared hosting on Lycos.co.uk. Its not just for me, its for 4 friends as well so we have to share the webspace and the bandwidth. I host my site from home so its really for them only.

I prefer to stick with my home server. I get all the cpu, all the ram, all 310GB of disk space and unlimited (well, next year it will be) bandwidth, but just a lower speed.

I might upgrade to the 10Mbps when it comes around for 2Mbps customers. At least I get over 2x more upload and thats good enough for me.

At least NTL are one of the few ISP's that allow servers to be run on the connection. My friend was recently fined by Nildram for running a webcam server for his nice website 24 hours a day. They agreed he could continue to run the server if he downgraded to the lower 2GB/m connection. Weird :confused: :confused: :confused:

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US based servers are always cheaper than the UK, but I prefer to be uk based. It's probably not the cheapest if i really hunted around - but the spec and response is good, as is the service I get so I'm happy with the price.

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Fair enough as long as you get good service then its worth the cost!

I think the cheapest isnt always the best anyway ;)

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Back to this old argument, abyss shared hosting is dirt cheap and good isp's will not have the downtime you mentioned and certianly better uptime and reliability then a p3 500mhz running windows xp, but good luck to you and I hope you solve your current problems.

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Well so far, in the last 6 months, Ive had 98% uptime. Its only recently that the uptime has decreased due to my server woes. All is solved for now. Just need 10Mbps now so I can have that lovely upload speed. Shame its not 1Mbps upload though, there were a lot of roumours it would be 1Mbps upload. :(

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as far as i'm aware whilst ntl do turn a blind eye to the odd ftp and server, running a commercial hosting company from a residential connection is a big no no.

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Its a good job I dont do that then ;)

They say the only limits are that you dont go over caps, dont charge for any services you run otherwise it will be classed as a business (I give free hosting with limits but dont sell it), and you wont get support if anything goes wrong.

Im happy with those terms and I also have my own TOS for the free hosting too.

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I'd tread carefully though, soliciting donations with the Paypal link might be pushing it :)

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At the end of the day, when running a server its not about you, its about your users. At 25kB/s for your entire userbase you can't call this nothing more than a hobby and if that is so.....whatever floats your boat.

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Its donations, not paying for something. Its if someone wants to give some money to help to pay for running the server. It costs 30p a day in electricity alone to run it.

Ive been running it for 6 months, if they had a problem Im sure they would have said something by now.

EDIT: Its not really a hobby, its just something Ive always wanted to do, its a responsibility keeping it online and running etc. 25KB/s is enough because I dont get more then 2 hits at any one time. The pages are small so take very little time to download, most less than 2 seconds.

The site is limited to 10KB/s per user anyway, so 2 users can happily browse it and not know of it. The server has a global limit of 20KB/s, I reserve 5KB/s for home browsing.

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So its a hobby then :) Also from your site there are 8 accounts, I don't think anybody would expend effort just for that. Who am I to talk anyway, just my 2 pennys.

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Well I enjoy doing these sorts of things so I put in the effort :)

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Wow you upped the cap? I downloaded the page at 15kB lightning fast vrooom.

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It will start off higher. All programs/servers with a limit do. Its still set to 10KB/s.

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Went on for a good 6 or 7 seconds sustained 15kB :) I take your word for it tho web browsing is hardly accurate way of measuring speed. Cached images etc. might have pushed it up.

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Do whatever you wants.....................your money.....your server...

BTW, uptime 100% 90% or whatever is not an indication of a good server....neglected one may be!! But not always!!

I have a dedicated server in the US (costs $60.00) Celeron 2.4, 40 GB, 256 DDRAM, 10 Mbit Up/Down…..2000 GB monthly limit….Redhat 9, Plesk 7.5.4.

And in January I'm shifting to another one P4 1.6, 512, 80 GB, 100 Mbit Up/Down, and 1000 GB transfer for 39 euros!!!!

In my house I have Fedora Core 4 installed in my laptop with Apache, SSH, FTP running….and I use www.DynDNS.org!!!!

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I don't know why anyone would want to host a server using NTL's connections when you can free up bandwidth and resources by using shared hosting. When companies like Mher.org(1$/month) can supply decent hosting so cheaply it negates the need to host anything at home.

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Not everything is possible on shared hosting including VPS....sometimes the TOS limits your actions......such as hosting questionable sites for instance!

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"BTW, uptime 100% 90% or whatever is not an indication of a good server....neglected one may be!! But not always!!"

What?! The better the uptime the better the server and the connection is. Without the server, the connection is useless and without the connection the server is useless.


"In my house I have Fedora Core 4 installed in my laptop with Apache, SSH, FTP running….and I use www.DynDNS.org!!!!"

I use no-ip.com and Abyss Web Server (proven to be more stable than Apache, but thats a different argument), big deal.


"I don't know why anyone would want to host a server using NTL's connections when you can free up bandwidth and resources by using shared hosting. When companies like Mher.org(1$/month) can supply decent hosting so cheaply it negates the need to host anything at home."

Exactly the reason: "Not everything is possible on shared hosting including VPS....sometimes the TOS limits your actions......such as hosting questionable sites for instance!"

I run a server from home because I have REAL root access, not virtual. Its not a not a virtual server, its a real one. Is 500% easier running one at home that at somewhere else in the world where I have to FTP 70GB of website data. Yes, 70GB.

Also, I hate Apache. Im supporting a piece of software called Abyss Web Server and its only possible to use it on a private or dedicated server with root access.

I really dont see what people have against running a server at home... Whatever floats your boat I say...

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I doubt you will get much of a service for that.
You might be lucky and get a cgi hit counter.

Most people would want php and sql as a minimum, and if you have to e-mail support of every server conf file change, its easier to do it yourself, and you learn more..

I use Suse to host my servers, as it was my 1st foray into linux, very user friendly (read idiot proof). It manages my 1.6Gb SQL database, and a few vhosts, irc, and 3 ftp servers with no problems and has only been offline when I had a power outage and when my router needed replacement. I dont think I have 'had to' reboot the system since installing it about 3 months ago.

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I don't have a problem with you running a server at home. What you do with your connection is between you and NTL. I have a server at home I occasionally use (although I am the only person with access, as it's strictly for me to mess around on).

One other option, however, is co-located servers (such as the one you are reading this on). These cost a little more, but you do get your own server, and can do pretty much what you want on it.

Regarding the 70 Gig FTP, would that really be a problem? I cannot see that you would need to FTP that data regularly, even for backup purposes as you can either do incremental backups or pay for the host to do it.

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My VPS server has full Root access, it may be a Virtual Server (a partition of a real one) but I have all the access to it that I would have if I was running on the server that is by my feet right now (which i use for IRC, WWW, FTP and Samba) The only downside to my hosting company is they Disallow running an IRC server on anything but their dedicated servers for some reason.

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Maybe IRC is CPU hungry? I was going to get a Lycos VDS, but I looked at the specs and I thought "Its cheaper to run one at home. The speed is the same, 25KB/s upload on the cheapest option and they dont garuntee you server speed of any kind, the RAM is very low and you only get 15GB of bandwidth. When NTL move to unlimited I can get the same bandwidth but so much more out of it for the same price just running one at home" so I didnt bother.

Their shared hosting is 10Mbps so Ill stick with that for my friends hosting and my own file hosting.

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No IRC is not CPU hungry and I can run Game Servers from the box if i like (which are definitely CPU hungry) so Im not sure really.

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Hopefully if things go well I'll be getting something like this and getting it co-located by the end of next year :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HP-DL140-1U-Se...QQcmdZViewItem

£132 :eek:

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v. nice im sure its bound to go up a fair bit

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Not a bad price at the moment ;) Way outruns my PIII 500MHz :(

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You can get a eu celeron 5mbit unmetered for under £60 month, full root axx etc.

Out of interest I thought your website was streamlined what uses up the 70gig?

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I do. I do a lot of graphic design and some files can be over 100MB in size in their PSD format. I store them all for future use and download a lot too.

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OK ;)

BTW, the Abyss looks good.....and there is a Linux port also. But, it seems if i read correct that it does not support SSL!!!!!!!

The last time i checked co-location might costs more than getting a dedicated server!!! Does not make a sense!!! But this is what I found out!!!!

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Hmm ive seen decent Colocation for about £40/month.

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It does support SSL but in the form of STunnel. It will nativly support it in future versions so Im told.

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And I've seen decent dedicated servers for 39 euro!!! How come??? Dont know!!!!!!

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There is an ircd that runs on a linksys router, so they cant be that bad...


btw what flavour if ircd do you run? Unreal3.2 for me...

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i always though a lot of Datacenter's dissallow IRC becuase it tends to attract attacks on the network and they see it as high risk.

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*Agrees* IRC is a DDoS magnet.