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AbyssUnderground

14-12-2005 18:10

[Solved] Proxies

Hello,

Is it possible not to use a proxy with NTL?

jtwn	14-12-2005 18:11

Re: Proxies

Not possible.

AbyssUnderground

14-12-2005 18:18

Re: Proxies

OK, thanks for the reply.

Bill C

14-12-2005 18:58

Re: Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

OK, thanks for the reply.

So what is "SOLVED" as far as proxy's go ?????????????

AbyssUnderground

14-12-2005 19:01

Re: [Solved] Proxies

The question I asked was solved. Simple.

Bill C

14-12-2005 19:04

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

The question I asked was solved. Simple.

But you put solved before you had the answer. :LOL:

AbyssUnderground

14-12-2005 19:06

Re: [Solved] Proxies

No, I edited my first post which allowed me to change the title ;)

patrickp

14-12-2005 21:59

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Strictly speaking, AbyssUnderground, it is possible not to use a proxy with ntl, but only when they don't put you on one. If they put you on one, that's it - you can change it, but not access without one.

For example, when I finally got broadband with them, a couple of years or so ago, they didn't put me on a proxy. I'm a bit miffed ATM because they've just put me on one...

AbyssUnderground

14-12-2005 22:26

Re: [Solved] Proxies

OK. Thanks for the reply. I think I'd prefer to be behind one anyway because it makes it more difficult for people to get my real IP. Hosting a website makes it even less inviting because I'm likely to get DDoSed by people because they know they have a chance of killing the server/connection.

Thats not happened as of yet but people have had a very good go at it.

poolking

14-12-2005 22:27

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

People could still get hold of your real IP address if they program their sites in such away to obtain your real IP address.

Graham M

14-12-2005 22:29

Re: [Solved] Proxies

here's my anomylous link

www.mysite.com/leechrealip.php

Could be done through a PHP script dead easily and if someone gave you a link to something in a PHP script or other it would be really easy to record your real IP as well as the proxy IP if wanted.

Stuart

14-12-2005 22:32

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

OK. Thanks for the reply. I think I'd prefer to be behind one anyway because it makes it more difficult for people to get my real IP.

A common misconception, helped by lazy coding on some sites. The Proxy actually passes on both it's own IP and yours. Click "Connection" in the top bar above for a demo.

AbyssUnderground

14-12-2005 22:33

Re: [Solved] Proxies

I know its possible but the php script i use on www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip gets the proxies IP and not my real one.

Its also easy to get my ip by pinging my url, but it helps prevent people from doing these things.

Graham M

14-12-2005 22:33

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Not all proxies do this, however the NTL ones at least do.

AbyssUnderground

14-12-2005 22:36

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Ive noticed this yes.

My IP displays as 6x.xx.xx.xx when it is actually 82.9.xx.xx

Graham M

14-12-2005 22:39

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C

A common misconception, helped by lazy coding on some sites. The Proxy actually passes on both it's own IP and yours. Click "Connection" in the top bar above for a demo.

Talking of Lazy Coding

http://www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip.php

:D

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 10:11

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph

Talking of Lazy Coding

http://www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip.php

:D

Whats that supposed to mean?

poolking

15-12-2005 10:36

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

Whats that supposed to mean?

He probably means your aren't getting the real IP of visitors to your site.

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 10:47

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by poolking

He probably means your aren't getting the real IP of visitors to your site.

But then I already knew that :dozey:

Graham M

15-12-2005 12:40

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Just agreeing with Stuart's Comment about Lazy Coding that's all, nothing else.

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 12:47

Re: [Solved] Proxies

I dont understand how it is lazy coding though :confused:

Its good enough for what I built it for.

Graham M

15-12-2005 13:07

Re: [Solved] Proxies

well for me it displays

Your IP Address is: 80.4.224.9
Your DNS is: sotn-cache-6.server.ntli.net

which is completely untrue, this doesn't protect you in any way it just confuses the user lol.

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 13:17

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph

What do you mean it doesnt protect you?

Stuart

15-12-2005 13:37

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Err guys, can we not start a fight? I called it Lazy coding as a lot of forums do it, and, therefore, when they ban the IP of a user, if that user is Proxied, they ban everyone on that Proxy. I was not commenting on anyone's coding style.

Graham M

15-12-2005 13:45

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Im not fighting i was just trying to suggest that if he wants to show a User's IP rather than the proxy that he could, I would even be willing to write up and post the required extra code. (If he wants)

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 13:47

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph

If you could that would be brilliant .:p:

Graham M

15-12-2005 14:02

Re: [Solved] Proxies

OK gimme a while and ill have it sorted.

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 14:19

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph

OK gimme a while and ill have it sorted.

Cheers

Chrysalis

15-12-2005 14:21

Re: [Solved] Proxies

abyss he is reffering to the x-forwarded-for header which shows the ip that the proxy is grabbing content for aka the user's real ip.

It is possible to avoid using any ntl proxy by using your own proxy on a non standard port.

Graham M

15-12-2005 15:12

Re: [Solved] Proxies

PHP Code:


		
			
<?php
if(isset($_SERVER["HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR"]))
{
$realip = $_SERVER["HTTP_X_FORWARDED_FOR"];
$realdns = gethostbyaddr($realip);

$proxyip = $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
$proxydns = gethostbyaddr($proxyip);

?>
<div align="center">It was detected that you are behind a proxy!</div>
<table border="0" width="300" align="center">
<tr><td><font size="2">
<b>Your Real IP Address is:</b></font></td>
<td><font size="2"><?php print $realip;?></font></td></tr>
<tr><td><font size="2">
<b>Your Real DNS is:</b></font></td>
<td><font size="2"><?php print $realdns;?></font></td></tr>

<tr><td><font size="2">
<b>Your Proxy IP Address is:</b></font></td>
<td><font size="2"><?php print $proxyip;?></font></td></tr>
<tr><td><font size="2">
<b>Your Proxy DNS is:</b></font></td>
<td><font size="2"><?php print $proxydns;?></font></td></tr>
</table>
<?php
}
else
{
$realip = $_SERVER['REMOTE_ADDR'];
$realdns = gethostbyaddr($realip);

?>
<div align="center">It was detected that you are <b>NOT </b>behind a proxy!</div>
<table border="0" width="300" align="center">
<tr><td><font size="2">
<b>Your Real IP Address is:</b></font></td>
<td><font size="2"><?php print $realip;?></font></td></tr>
<tr><td><font size="2">
<b>Your Real DNS is:</b></font></td>
<td><font size="2"><?php print $realdns;?></font></td></tr>
<?php
}
?>

---------- Post added at 15:34 ---------- Previous post was at 15:23 ----------

Oh btw you can see this in action here: www.zeph.co.uk/abyss before you try it if you like

---------- Post added at 16:12 ---------- Previous post was at 15:34 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

It is possible to avoid using any ntl proxy by using your own proxy on a non standard port.

I run a Squid proxy on my server in the US and incredibly it's quite often faster and more reliable than the NTL ones, I run it on port 3128 so that the NTL Proxies can't touch it :)

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 15:42

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Thanks for the code. My new server just arrived so I'm building that first :)

Graham M

15-12-2005 15:52

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Youre welcome, good luck with the build, let's hope you don't miss anything out of that! ;):p:

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 16:05

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Thanks for the luck. You can go to www.abyssunderground.co.uk to see the progress on the build and the setting up ;)

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 19:16

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Ive added the proxy and ip detect code to my website now. The new server is also up and running.

www.abyssunderground.co.uk/ip is the testing address for the proxy and ip detect code. Works with my friends so it should work for everyone :cool:

dilli-theclaw

15-12-2005 19:21

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground

It now gives me my correct information.

AbyssUnderground

15-12-2005 19:31

Re: [Solved] Proxies

Quote:

Originally Posted by dilligaf1701

It now gives me my correct information.

At least I can be sure it works now. Thanks for everyones help.

Graham M

15-12-2005 19:37

Re: [Solved] Proxies

*takes a bow* :D *Waits for his name to appear on the IP page emblazoned in red* :D

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