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Dar 21-11-2005 18:52

Ethernet Problems
 
I have recently bought myself an ethernet hub (switch) and 3 ethernet cables.
I have 2 PCs and a NTL modem going into the hub.

Now how the hell do I get the internet working on the PCs?

I've got it all linked up and I can play LAN games through both PCs, but I cannot connect to the internet.

This is a simple way of showing how it's set up:

Modem
|
Hub--PC
|
PC

Any suggestions in how to get the internet running!?

Paul K 21-11-2005 19:16

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Why did you buy a switch? You would be better of with a router :)

Dar 21-11-2005 19:23

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Switches are cheaper and that's all I need.

The computers connect fine, but the internet doesn't!

I could really do with some useful help please.

Paul K 21-11-2005 19:24

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
What IP addresses are your PC's showing?

Hom3r 21-11-2005 19:25

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
What did you buy Make & Model?

Paul 21-11-2005 19:50

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar
Switches are cheaper and that's all I need.

A switch is no good for what you want to do.

handyman 21-11-2005 20:14

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
I agree, a router would have been the way forward and not cost much more. You can get routers for 20 quid now.

Dar 21-11-2005 20:14

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
May I ask why?
The PCs connect just fine.

The only routers I could find were £100

danielf 21-11-2005 20:20

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar
May I ask why?
The PCs connect just fine.

The only routers I could find were £100

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...VzdWx0cw%3D%3D

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...ubcat_uid=1148

Dar 21-11-2005 20:29

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Wow, thanks.

Are you sure my switch won't work?

JonathanLH 21-11-2005 20:38

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
The switch would work if your modem allocated a real public ip to each pc (the xbox service?)
otherwise router for sharing 1 public ip

danielf 21-11-2005 20:52

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar
Wow, thanks.

Are you sure my switch won't work?

Yes, I believe it's because your switch does not give you NAT (Network Address Translation). I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Paul K 21-11-2005 21:02

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
See, there was a reason I asked why you bought a switch ;) much easier in the long run to get a router.

homealone 21-11-2005 21:36

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danielf
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar
Wow, thanks.

Are you sure my switch won't work?

Yes, I believe it's because your switch does not give you NAT (Network Address Translation). I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

i think - and I don't usually delve this deep, that switches work using MAC addresses, while routers use TCP/IP, which may or may not be a different way of expressing it, especially when routers usually contain switches :confused:

Either way, forget the switch, Dar, a cheap way of sharing internet connection is via Internet Connection Sharing, which needs the 'host' pc to be on for the 'client' to work, or get a router.

- there is a trend developing you may have noticed *cough* router *cough* :D

Slyder 21-11-2005 21:41

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar
The only routers I could find were £100

You really need to stop shopping at Harrods. ;)

Dar 21-11-2005 22:00

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Ok that's it...
I'm getting a router!

homealone 21-11-2005 22:22

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dar
Ok that's it...
I'm getting a router!

YAY - you won't regret it, well if you get the right one, of course - check loads of other threads ......

danielf 21-11-2005 22:28

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Linksys is a popular choice...

Dar 23-11-2005 16:35

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Just ordered myself a router.

Is this one ok?
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=52897

I only use ethernet to connect my PCs so I'm hoping that'll be fine.

SMHarman 23-11-2005 16:37

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Yes - you can even plug your printer into it to share the printer without having another PC switched on.

Dar 23-11-2005 16:39

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
I know, that's great! :D

Do I plug the modem in with ethernet as well? :confused:

SMHarman 23-11-2005 17:05

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
When you get it you turn off everything, plug the cable modem into the port on the router titled Internet, WAN or something like that (usually on its ownsome). Plug all your PCs ethernet ports into the ones entitled 1,2,3,4 or something like that, then power up the CM, wait for the sync light, then the router, wait for the power or rdy light or something like that to stop flickering and then the PCs and job done.

Dar 01-12-2005 16:56

Re: Ethernet Problems
 
Ok, I have everything working fine now.

Just one thing...
How do I get the printer set up in the network???

I've plugged it into the USB port but my computers don't find it.


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