Manchester proxy
 

Today infact only 15 mins ago I lost the interent for the 4th time today in my modem log there are loads of information.

After everything loggd back in I had to specify a proxy to surf the web so my proxy must have also failed.
What is causing all those messages and me dropping the internet and what can be done to stop it?

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manc-cache-4.server.ntli.net seems to be down, but the rest look OK.
Darned if I can find the address of the Manc CM DHCP/TFTP at the moment to ping it.. looks like it moved along with the proxies but I can't find it. Must be working at the moment anyway since you're now connected mind.

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Yes I am connected and still using Bagu-cache-4-server as my proxy is still timing out.

would like to know why I am having so much trouble though the modem logs are full of information like that and we often drop the internet for a few seconds but long enough to cause problems and log everything off also high pings when my son is playing cs when this is happening.

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Because you have a fault I would think. You have reported this haven't you ?

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I will next time it drops again but last time the internet came back as they started to check it and they just blamed the router then.. The logs are from the SACM which proves its not the router.

It still seems the proxy is down as if I use manc proxy I cant access ISPreview yet specify bagu and I can

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always the case :( sods law you get through to tech support and it works when they test then they blame your hardware.

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FYI Manchester 4 is as dead as a dodo, and has been for over a day.

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Yes been using Bagu proxy since the 29th as I seem to be on Manc 4 a lot

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You won't use manc-4 any more than any of the others unless all the sites you use happen to be assigned to that server (statisically unlikely unless you only ever visit one site), and as I understand it the WCCP software will automatically redistribute the load should a proxy fail anyway?

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Perhaps it is supposed to happen but I moderate a forum which I visit a lot and its always assigned to manc 4 and if its down I cannot access the forums without specifying a proxy. Which is why I am still on Bagu proxy now and I only test the proxy once a day if the forums fail then I go back to the specified proxy for the rest of that day. Its not like these proxies are saving NTL: anything infact sometimes it must be costing more as many ppl now use ctrl + alt+ f5 to force the proxies to refresh to see if the websites have changed as they are bad at updating when you are building a website online.

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That depends on how it fails. In the case of M4 it's totally offline so yes, WCCP should drop it out of the equation. But if the proxy appears responsive, but isn't serving up pages as it should, then you have a problem.

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Today I could access the Forum I moderate without specifying any and checks show me that I am not going through any proxy.


checked here

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You can check your IP/connection with the Connection link at the top of every page on the forum, no external link needed. :) and yes, it looks like they have disabled the Manchester WCCP at the moment, so you are connecting directly.

FYI, you can also access Cable Forum on Port 81 if you wish, this will always be direct as ntl only intercept Port 80. That's a 'non documented' feature I added a while ago. :)

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I would be interested to know what the specs are of the proxies, maximum throughput expected requests per sec expected etc.

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This is the second time I have been proxy free and I have to admit the pages open quicker without a proxy than they do with. Also building a website online the changes are noticed imediately iinstead of having to use Ctrl+alt+f5...


:tu: NTL please leave the proxy's down its a better service without them

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I envy you grrrrr.

These proxies stop the ability of optimising dns lookups locally, been able to use site's error free, avoid proxy congestion and use http 1.1 to its full specification.

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Could anyone suggest why NTL have proxy problems in manchester they keep trying to get them to work and they keep falling over.

It seems to be only the manc and baguley ones

I seem to remember many threads on the subject is it that hard to get proxies working

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I have been having some problems recently aswell, constant server not found and time out problems :mad:

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pray for NTL's enlightenment on the proxy front and hope tehy find a better use for them than proxys.

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What amazes me is that they have spent many thousands of pounds on this even getting a company to manage them and they still fall over.

First they dont have enough proxies then we are told the proxies have loads of capacity

Looks like a bit of bad luck NTL is having, or they have not got the capacity again :D

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its not only in manc, just you guys make the loudest noise about it :)

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The Manc proxies were shifted to a new IP range not that long ago. I assumed it was becuase the IP address for manc1 was the one most commonly given out as a quick fix by techs.
Odd that they turned the whole shebang off when only one seems to be having problems, unless they're doing some sort of testing.

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They can leave them off for me sell them to AOL or some other company.
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We do well tehm perhaps the others who are havingproxy problems should join and complaint then perhaps NTL will perhaps do something about them.

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Now I need some noise from fellow leics user's to get leics proxies turned off :(

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Is anyone on the Manc area having problems accessing the paypal login page with the proxies turned off?

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I gave up moaning about the crappy things, they certainly know they are bad here, but they are still switched on :(

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No problems at all infact all pages open much quicker without the proxies.

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What i find strange is when we debated the proxy issues problems we turned into targets for certain NTL workers on this site.:p:

In fact it was said the proxies are so good we would not realise how good they are because it would be seamless surfing :D

Now the proxies are off not a sign of anyone explaining it:disturbd:

Ever get the feeling the argument is a bit one sided :angel:

Re: Manchester proxy
 

I have received a statement from ntl this afternoon regarding the Manchester proxies currently being switched off, ntl networks state:-

"After a recent upgrade to the routers we identified that there was a degration in the performance of the caching. Investigations are underway as to why the performance degraded. In the meantime to ensure that customers were not adversely affected the web caching was switched off. This is a temporarily matter while investigations continue."

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LOL, what about us Poplar proxy users, we are 'adversely affected' on a daily basis !

Sorry I couldn't resist :)

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Why is it the only time we hear from you is when the word proxy is uttered.


so here we go
proxy
proxy
proxy
proxy
proxy
proxy


:LOL:

what is there to debate. I say i have no problems where i am, You say they are the devil incarnate. so why should we keep repeating ourselves.:rolleyes:

Re: Manchester proxy
 

Im enjoying my proxy free experience... when they turn them on though back to moaning unless they are FIXED.

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Its odd that when manc has proxy problems they usually get turned off but everywhere else they just keep them on and on and on.

Is there highend ntl staff in manc or something?

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I dont know, but they do have offices that need the internet ;)

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I see you dont mean me do we have a new member thaiengineer:rofl:

hi bill where have you been, was waiting for the debate

Who broke them this time sorting routers out :rolleyes:
Do they want any consultancy .
Reasonable rates 30 days in advance :LOL:
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Another two years switched off again then:D :angel:

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not 2 yrs from what I have been told so I am making the most of my freedom from proxys!!!!!!!

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Funny thing is the proxies seem snappier now, I wonder if loads of manc peeps were manually using diff ones around the country and the load has dropped.

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Dont tell NTL but never noticed it change had winnerish specified on one pc cardiff on another etc. The manc ones kept falling over slowing up so specified some good ones :Peaceman:

http:\\bmly-cache-1.server.ntli.net :D

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I dont think so :LOL:

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50/50 :D

phone a friend :D

As the audience :angel:

Get a consultant to sort them out cheap,rates :rofl:

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Enjoy yourself while it lasts. you will have something to complain about shortly :)

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:LOL: I will just move back to your proxy again Bill seems the best up here

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Go on then whats changing to get me to complain again :erm:

I am not complaining about the proxies just reiterating my and other users views that the NTL service in manc and proxies has never been successfully implemented.

So that the NTL customer has a fault free service.

If it was implemented and working we would not have a proxy thread just a seamless service.:D

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But lets face it even when they are working If someone says proxy's, Out comes the same group of users with the tried and tested complaints about them.

And BTW i am now on a proxy here. :D

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Bill to be honest must admit like proxies when working, still using bromley at moment.

So have been converted, however if we have proxies they need to be monitored, reliable and maintained like any piece of equipment.

Not fall over quite frequently and why does it always seem to affect the manc or baguley ones, why are they having problems with all the many thousands of pounds and time that NTL has allegedly spent on them.

Which includes bringing a specialist company in on the problem, if it was new technology could understand but clustering web servers is a well known technology.

And like any good engineer always interested in the root cause for failure

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I still wonder why ntl keep throwing money at these things, just sell them on and upgrade their external traffic capacity which needs doing anyway. Stick a £1 or £2 on new customer signups to help cut the difference.

If NTL slowed down their growth recharged for install etc. they would have the money to not need these and provide a better service for the customers they have, they have a big customer base their is money to be made by getting more out of each customer.

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Good point quite agree they have great difficulty with proxies

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And those offices use corporate proxies rather than the public ones.

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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
I wish NTL would leave these things off. My connection flew when they were switched off, now they're back on its back to a crawl.. I'm in south manchester, ping details below.


C:\Documents and Settings\john>ping www.bbc.co.uk

Pinging www.bbc.net.uk [212.58.224.83] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 212.58.224.83: bytes=32 time=28ms TTL=242
Request timed out.
Reply from 212.58.224.83: bytes=32 time=50ms TTL=242
Request timed out.

Ping statistics for 212.58.224.83:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 2, Lost = 2 (50% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 28ms, Maximum = 50ms, Average = 39ms

C:\Documents and Settings\john>

Re: Manchester proxy
 

Proxy servers have nothing to do with ping times.

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Indeed. But i bet some will not listen to you :).

Bill C <---------------Finds a corner to wait in for the usual suspects. :LOL:

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I am still not going through a proxy and I am Manchester.

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Only the Manchester proxies are off, jb1978 is on the Baguley servers.

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the junior engineer would like your advice on ping times lag

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I'm in Manchester. Does anybody know why I'm on the 'bagu-cache-4.server.ntli.net' proxy server? I've not got any proxies specified or anything. My connection is still very poor and I've reset the router/samsung stb numerous times.

Thanks

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Because you are on a Baguley UBR.

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Whenever Manc proxies was plying up I found Bagu4 to be a good one fast for a proxy. Plus Bill.C uses it a lot :LOL:

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Sorry to drag up an old(ish) thread, but Im on bagu.4 which seems fine enough, but ebuyer takes an age to load (like 2 minutes)

Is this something to do with the proxy, and would I be better off using a different one??

TIA

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Perhaps everyone is using bagu 4 to get to where they want I have just changed back to proxy free from bagu4 coz it seems slow for me. and my proxy free is fast at present.. (sods law something will happen now)

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No chance I can use a better/no proxy then?

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dont think so its just the proxies for manchester are off again so I am proxy free.

Saying that I have been using bagu4 for a few days now as some websites wasn't loading and they did in bagu 4.

Personaly I think all proxys should be off but NTL seem to like to waste money on them.

Re: Manchester proxy
 

maybe I should rent out my squid proxy :P