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Maggy 21-09-2005 17:51

Moon plan 'comes up short
 
I concur with this article.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4263106.stm

homealone 21-09-2005 18:08

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I think we need to develop a safe and economical orbiter (shuttle replacement), to service and expand the International Space Station, then develop a vehicle that will operate from that.

I totally agree with the article, that the 'heavy lifter' approach is redundant (and wasteful) technology. This, in my opinion, is 'short term-ism' that is not justified by the goal. A moon colony is no more than 'nice to have', at the moment, why not set our sights on the longer term project of a manned mission to Mars?

ScaredWebWarrior 21-09-2005 19:39

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Originally Posted by homealone
I think we need to develop a safe and economical orbiter (shuttle replacement), to service and expand the International Space Station, then develop a vehicle that will operate from that.

That has to be the best way forward, however...

Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone
I totally agree with the article, that the 'heavy lifter' approach is redundant (and wasteful) technology. This, in my opinion, is 'short term-ism' that is not justified by the goal.

That 'redundant' approach (Apollo 2.0) may just be the right thing if we're going to be having 'Space Race 2.0' - with China and Japan getting interested too, there's quite a few vying to be in space again.

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Originally Posted by homealone
A moon colony is no more than 'nice to have', at the moment, why not set our sights on the longer term project of a manned mission to Mars?

Two possible reasons that we might 'want' that nice Moon base - to get there before the others do, and maybe to use it as a jumping off point to Mars.

The Space Station may be a great place to launch from, but it's awfully small for storage. So much easier to dump supplies on the Moon and then ferry them up to the SS as required.

Dooby 29-09-2005 11:19

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I think they (NASA) have realised that they better really go and land on the moon and put the stuff they are supposed to have left there in the right places before someone else gets there and exposes them LOL

Graham 29-09-2005 14:21

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Originally Posted by Dooby
I think they (NASA) have realised that they better really go and land on the moon and put the stuff they are supposed to have left there in the right places before someone else gets there and exposes them LOL

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

AndrewJ 29-09-2005 15:16

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Originally Posted by Dooby
I think they (NASA) have realised that they better really go and land on the moon and put the stuff they are supposed to have left there in the right places before someone else gets there and exposes them LOL

:rofl: POST OF THE MONTH :rofl:

SMHarman 29-09-2005 16:35

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Originally Posted by Dooby
I think they (NASA) have realised that they better really go and land on the moon and put the stuff they are supposed to have left there in the right places before someone else gets there and exposes them LOL

Breaking news - the model of the luner lander has mysteriously dissapeared from the Science museum exhibit.

Dooby 29-09-2005 16:39

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oh no, what have i started :)

AndrewJ 29-09-2005 17:18

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I would love to nip to the moon before the USA gets there again, and place a DFS sale leaflet, and a solar powered high power hifi playing the Jamster advert.

Hom3r 29-09-2005 17:24

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I'ld send the Blooming frog

Graham 29-09-2005 22:23

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Originally Posted by Dooby
oh no, what have i started :)

<Grams - X-Files theme...> :D

danielf 29-09-2005 22:35

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Originally Posted by Saxodriver
I would love to nip to the moon before the USA gets there again, and place a DFS sale leaflet, and a solar powered high power hifi playing the Jamster advert.

Seeing the moon has no atmosphere, I doubt they'd notice the Jamster advert...

marky 29-09-2005 22:36

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Originally Posted by danielf
Seeing the moon has no atmosphere, I doubt they'd notice the Jamster advert...

All the better :)

AndrewJ 29-09-2005 22:39

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LOL has to be one don't there ;)

Graham 29-09-2005 22:40

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Originally Posted by danielf
Seeing the moon has no atmosphere, I doubt they'd notice the Jamster advert...

Well they'll just have to make their own entertainment, then...! :D

(With apologies to Terry Pratchett! :) )

AndrewJ 29-09-2005 22:41

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Well we could provide them with a 10cd autochanger, with Jamster adverts on each cd for ten minutes.... to help sponsor the space mission.

marky 29-09-2005 22:42

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Or make them listen to barney for the whole round trip :Yikes:

AndrewJ 29-09-2005 22:49

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And tweety the chic....oo ooo oo how about giving them the pleasure of pop idols for the 400,000+ miles trip.

Non stop playback.
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ScaredWebWarrior 12-10-2005 07:50

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OK - back on topic...
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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
That 'redundant' approach (Apollo 2.0) may just be the right thing if we're going to be having 'Space Race 2.0' - with China and Japan getting interested too, there's quite a few vying to be in space again.

As I said...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4333158.stm

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China has successfully launched its second manned spacecraft, carrying two Chinese astronauts into orbit.
And:
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China hopes to set up a space station within five years and eventually it wants to put an astronaut on the moon.

Maurice 13-10-2005 11:40

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Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
China hopes to set up a space station within five years and eventually it wants to put an astronaut on the moon.

Well if the Chinese get to the moon before the yanks, then at least when the yanks do get there they will find a Chinese restaurant to eat in :Yikes:

marky 13-10-2005 11:50

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If they build a moonbase, i hope there wont be any corners, or we know what will happen :erm:


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