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JamboUK

21-09-2005 15:51

Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

Hi..

Anyone a wiz on Windows 2000 Server that can help me set up Remote Access? This is the basics of the setup....

Windows 2000 Server.... on a network (Workgroup NOT Domain). Connected to the internet via Netgear ADSL Router. Our connection to the internet has been assigned a static IP address by our ISP.

Home user running Windows XP Home (or Pro) wants to connect into the Windows 2000 Server via Remote Desktop (the home user is the admin) to access the machine as if sitting in front of it. (As per Remote Desktop XP to XP).

Eventually I want to sort out VPN but one step at a time (unless someone can sort this at the same time!! ;)) Can someone point me in the right direction?

Jon M

21-09-2005 15:58

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

It's not free, but it's better than the "VNC" varients floating around...

http://www.dameware.com/products/dmrc/

JamboUK

21-09-2005 16:00

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Jon M

It's not free, but it's better than the "VNC" varients floating around...

http://www.dameware.com/products/dmrc/

Problem with using what is already in Windows 2000 Server and XP?

Jon M

21-09-2005 16:02

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

All you need to do is put in the IP address of the target machine and enter the relavent access details.. provided the account you use has local admin rights the software will be 'push' installed from his machine.

JamboUK

21-09-2005 16:07

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Jon M

With the software you recommend?

Jon M

21-09-2005 16:09

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by JamboUK

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Originally Posted by Jon M

It's not free, but it's better than the "VNC" varients floating around...

http://www.dameware.com/products/dmrc/

Problem with using what is already in Windows 2000 Server and XP?

Because it would only work if the server/host was running XP or 2003 Server.
You can install the remote client software on virtually any version of windows, but the host has to be one of those two.
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Originally Posted by Jon M

With the software you recommend?

Yes

atlantis

21-09-2005 16:12

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

Will this help:

http://www.petri.co.il/download_free_reskit_tools.htm

JamboUK

21-09-2005 16:12

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Nice - thanks.

But surely I am able to do what I want to do with what I already have got in the meantime. Or like everything MS - is it just too damn fiddly?

J

Jon M

21-09-2005 16:20

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

Unfortunatly not.
Like I said in my previous post, Windows 2000 Server doesn't support Remote Desktop as a host.

Gareth

21-09-2005 16:22

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

You can use Microsoft's Terminal Services (or Remote Desktop or whatever it's called now) in 2000 Server - I use it at work. It's very easy to set up and use.

Here's the link you need... http://www.microsoft.com/Windows2000...l/default.mspx

JamboUK

21-09-2005 16:22

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Jon M

Unfortunatly not.
Like I said in my previous post, Windows 2000 Server doesn't support Remote Desktop as a host.

OK... I am confused... what are all the Remote Access / Desktop options then? Puzzled now... or am mixing the two up.

Jon M

21-09-2005 16:24

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

The only inbuilt service that will work is Remote Terminal Service, but I doubt your admin will get what he wants using that.

JamboUK

21-09-2005 16:27

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by JamboUK

OK... I am confused... what are all the Remote Access / Desktop options then? Puzzled now... or am mixing the two up.

OK OK.. just realised.... getting my Remote Access and Remote Desktops mixed up.... me bad!!

Remote Access... I am kind of into VPN territory here huh? Sorry for being duh!
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Originally Posted by Jon M

The only inbuilt service that will work is Remote Terminal Service, but I doubt your admin will get what he wants using that.

Thanks... I am the network Admin but totally newbie on Windows 2000 Server...

Can you tell? ;)

Jon M

21-09-2005 16:37

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

Dameware is definately going to be the simplest option in that case ;)

Remote Access Service, is for controlling dial-up and other WAN connections.

JamboUK

21-09-2005 17:16

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Jon M

Dameware is definately going to be the simplest option in that case ;)

Remote Access Service, is for controlling dial-up and other WAN connections.

Don't suppose you are a VPN expert? ;)

Jon M

21-09-2005 17:22

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

Depends what type of VPN, I can help with most things though.

Stuart

21-09-2005 17:38

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Jon M

It's not free, but it's better than the "VNC" varients floating around...

http://www.dameware.com/products/dmrc/

I'd be a bit wary of that program. It's (apparently) often used by Hackers.

I personally would stick with Terminal Services. It is built into Windows 2000 Server and is free as long as you use it for admin purposes.

Someone using Terminal Services on a machine can do everything they can if they had logged into the machine locally. Apart from 3d work, and sound playback, but it's doubtful you would need either on a server.
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Originally Posted by Jon M

Because it would only work if the server/host was running XP or 2003 Server.
You can install the remote client software on virtually any version of windows, but the host has to be one of those two.

Err, we use Terminal Servces on Windows 2000 Server at work. It is built in. Admittedly, it needs to be enabled via the console, but after that it works.

JamboUK

21-09-2005 17:49

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Ahhhhh... so I am not going that mad then... this is what I need to do... any hints and tips?
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Originally Posted by Jon M

Depends what type of VPN, I can help with most things though.

Simple VPN between two offices (one main... one small satellite). One running Window 2000 Server on the server.... one running XP Pro as server.

Both with static IP.... on ADSL via Netgear routers.

Jon M

21-09-2005 19:41

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

I'd be a bit wary of that program. It's (apparently) often used by Hackers.

Hackers use IRC and telnet and many other things, yet no-one worries about those things, what bearing on the usefulness or legitimacy of the software does that have?
Lots of technologies are open to misuse, to be honest I'd take it as a compliment in some situations if a hacker chose to use my software, it could just mean that they think it's good at what it does.

*Obviously, if there is legitimate evidence to suggest the software is open to attack I'm interested to know what it is, after all it is currently Corporate standard on my recommendation installed on over 15,000 PC's worldwide.

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Originally Posted by Jon M

Because it would only work if the server/host was running XP or 2003 Server.
You can install the remote client software on virtually any version of windows, but the host has to be one of those two.

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Err, we use Terminal Servces on Windows 2000 Server at work. It is built in. Admittedly, it needs to be enabled via the console, but after that it works.

:) lol, if you actually read all the posts you'd see that I was talking about "Remote Desktop" in reference to the first post .. I mentioned Terminal Services a few posts later too :dozey:

Stuart

21-09-2005 23:56

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Jon M

:) lol, if you actually read all the posts you'd see that I was talking about "Remote Desktop" in reference to the first post .. I mentioned Terminal Services a few posts later too :dozey:

Terminal Services is compatible with Remote Desktop...
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Originally Posted by Jon M

The only inbuilt service that will work is Remote Terminal Service, but I doubt your admin will get what he wants using that.

What admin task that you can perform at the Windows 2000 console, can you *not* perform with Terminal Services?
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Originally Posted by JamboUK

Ahhhhh... so I am not going that mad then... this is what I need to do... any hints and tips?

Right, it's not as easy to install as Dameware (admittedly), but, on the Console, go to "Control Panel", "Add/Remove programs", "Add/Remove Windows Components", then make sure "Terminal Services" is ticked.

When you click OK, Windows will ask if you want to use it in Remote Administration mode or Remote Application mode. Using Remote Application mode requires access to a Terminal Services Licensing server (which costs extra), so use "Remote Administration" mode. This is free, but you cannot have any more than 3 administrators attached.

MovedGoalPosts

22-09-2005 00:29

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

I regularly administer my office's server and workstations from home. Workstations are Win XP Pro. server is Small Business Server 2000 (based on the Windows 2000 server OS). Once connected to the office via VPN, I can then use my home PC's windows XP (home) remote desktop connection utility to connect to any workstation or server that has remote access enabled.

VPN on SBS was fairly straight forward to setup, but access rights were needed in user profiles. Whether standard Win Server 2000 has a VPN server software inbuilt I dunno

JamboUK

22-09-2005 14:36

Re: Windows 2000 Server - Remote Access

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Originally Posted by Rob C

Great... all I gotta do now then is figure out VPN!! :erm:

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