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akane1984 19-09-2005 18:36
Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Ok alot of people seem to have this trouble with two pcs router and connection dropping. so what do people think of homeplug networking as alternative i know very little about it so anyone that can explain the pros and cons please do.

hairy_mick 19-09-2005 19:04
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
well i am using it right now and its spot on can plug into any electric socket in the house and use my laptop. I also have wireless but its a small house and i dont have a problem with mine but i have been in houses that have difficulty picking up signal due to structure of the building this is where this product comes into its own.

zing_deleted 19-09-2005 19:06
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Ive mentioned this in a couple of posts resently after a very successful install of said product. Easy to instal and set up no need to security ie wep or wap.Can recommend it

marky 19-09-2005 19:07
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
We had baby monitors 8 yrs ago that worked on the same principle they were great :)

Halcyon 19-09-2005 20:33
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Anyone got any good links to these type of products ?

marky 19-09-2005 20:35
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon
Anyone got any good links to these type of products ?
yep but i'm not taking the credit :) http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...27&postcount=3

bdav 19-09-2005 20:37
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
So how exactly do they work? Is it like running an arial over the earth pin? What stops it backing into someone elses house?

Is there any distance limit? Sounds quite good - wish i had known about it when I ran a network cable through the house :(

akane1984 19-09-2005 20:42
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
for two pcs and an xbox what set-up would you recommend, what parts should i buy???

Halcyon 19-09-2005 20:46
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdav

Is there any distance limit? Sounds quite good - wish i had known about it when I ran a network cable through the house :(

The link I've just beeen pointed to here:http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm
seems to say this on the range:

Quote:
Range on Powerline can be expected to be 100m or more. Generally any circuit working on the same electricity meter will provide a good connection.

Most houses are supplied with a single-phase which is different to each of their neighbours, so Powerline communication between neighbours is unlikely.)

bdav 19-09-2005 20:49
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Wicked! A bit more expensive than wifi, but the amount i've spent on wireless routers throughout the years would make it well worth it.

akane1984 19-09-2005 20:52
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bdav
Wicked! A bit more expensive than wifi, but the amount i've spent on wireless routers throughout the years would make it well worth it.
yeah i ve went through a robotics and two belkins! lol can anyone who knows about homeplug networking recommend kit i would need for two pcs and xbox connected to ntl 2mb broadband! please! my belkin 54g is crap

zing_deleted 20-09-2005 10:42
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
dabs do a pair for 53 quid,you can get budget sets for as little as 18 quid but there a lot slower.The average unit costing 25-30 quid will be 14 mps not as fast as a t base 10-100 network or a 54 mbps wireless set up but a lot faster than the internet connection.It all depends how much file sharing will be done,There are more expensive units now available that run at 84mbps I believe
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Quote:
Originally Posted by akane1984
yeah i ve went through a robotics and two belkins! lol can anyone who knows about homeplug networking recommend kit i would need for two pcs and xbox connected to ntl 2mb broadband! please! my belkin 54g is crap
use the router switch off wireless.

Plug router direct via lan port to pc and direct to 1 homeplug unit.
you then need 1 unit for each pc/console simple as
use standard patch cables btw not cross

so for your set up you need 3 units

akane1984 20-09-2005 15:14
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb
dabs do a pair for 53 quid,you can get budget sets for as little as 18 quid but there a lot slower.The average unit costing 25-30 quid will be 14 mps not as fast as a t base 10-100 network or a 54 mbps wireless set up but a lot faster than the internet connection.It all depends how much file sharing will be done,There are more expensive units now available that run at 84mbps I believe
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use the router switch off wireless.

Plug router direct via lan port to pc and direct to 1 homeplug unit.
you then need 1 unit for each pc/console simple as
use standard patch cables btw not cross

so for your set up you need 3 units
well seeing my trouble is more sharing internet wireless to my brothers pc downstairs so we can both game. am not worried at all about file sharing. can just ask do i use my existing belkin 54g router or do i need to buy a powerline router?? and whats difference.

can i add also whats the difference in makes of these plugs some people sell pairs for 40/50 others like;

http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop...ShopGroupID=61 sell for 80 +

zing_deleted 20-09-2005 16:39
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
just use your router

akane1984 21-09-2005 08:58
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
what about different makes, is their any difference their in performance or quality?

zing_deleted 21-09-2005 09:01
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Theres a lot of peeps who favour one over another.You own a router and if you go with the Homeplug idea your only going to be using the wired switches so I would try with that one first

akane1984 21-09-2005 09:24
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb
Theres a lot of peeps who favour one over another.You own a router and if you go with the Homeplug idea your only going to be using the wired switches so I would try with that one first
yeah well i have my belkin 54g, and was gonna buy x2 plugs one for my pc and one for downstairs pc for brother, who currently uses wifi usb adaptor! i could buy another wired or wireless homeplug for my xbox if needed.

zing_deleted 21-09-2005 10:51
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by akane1984
yeah well i have my belkin 54g, and was gonna buy x2 plugs one for my pc and one for downstairs pc for brother, who currently uses wifi usb adaptor! i could buy another wired or wireless homeplug for my xbox if needed.
you wont need one for your pc as you can connect direct to router you will however need one for the router to plug into and one for each external client :)

akane1984 21-09-2005 11:15
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb
you wont need one for your pc as you can connect direct to router you will however need one for the router to plug into and one for each external client :)
ah right so my pc connects to router. and cable modem attachs to router as normal then i just connect plug for router and plug for downstairs pc???

zing_deleted 21-09-2005 11:26
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yes

Hawkwinddotcom 24-09-2005 16:57
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Buying these soon

zing_deleted 24-09-2005 17:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hawkwinddotcom
cool how many? 85mbps good speed make sure you let us know how you get on

Hawkwinddotcom 24-09-2005 22:23
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Not bought yet until house extension is built :mad: but will be buying a set.

I did think of buying the cheaper version with a top speed of (i think) 14mb but with the blueyonder upgrades coming along i thought may as well spend a few more quid and be future proof (ish) for a while.

johnw35 03-10-2006 11:33
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
I get my ntl broadband through the set-top-box via ethernet connections. I am thinking of getting a pair of Netgear XE104 homeplugs (85Mbps). All I want to do is share the broadband between 2 computers.
Can the ethernet lead from the set-top-box be plugged direct into the XE104 or is it necessary to have a router between them?
I have had conflicting advice, so help from anyone with direct knowledge would be appreciated

zing_deleted 03-10-2006 11:44
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quite a bump but :tu: for using search :)
you will need a router as the stb will only allocate 1 ip .You could wire the stb to 1 pc as normal then use a crossover cable to 1st homeplug then crossover cable from 2nd homeplug to pc2 and set up connection sharing not the best option. TBH you would be better off buying a wireless router and a usb adapter for 2nd pc this would be cheaper :)

TheNorm 03-10-2006 13:00
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Just to add my 2p worth, I bought a pair of Homeplug 14Mbps ethernet adapters from ebay a few months ago. Recently one stopped working, so I contacted the manufacturer in Hull (http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm) who swapped the bad unit for a good one - free of charge! Excellent customer service, excellent products.

zing_deleted 03-10-2006 13:13
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
I have used these in a few networks and all has been well but ive used them in conjunction with routers

johnw35 03-10-2006 19:28
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34128599)
quite a bump but :tu: for using search :)
you will need a router as the stb will only allocate 1 ip .You could wire the stb to 1 pc as normal then use a crossover cable to 1st homeplug then crossover cable from 2nd homeplug to pc2 and set up connection sharing not the best option. TBH you would be better off buying a wireless router and a usb adapter for 2nd pc this would be cheaper :)
Many thanks for the info. You are the first and ONLY person who has explained that the STB will only allocate 1 ip - hence the need for a router.
Wireless could be tricky due to the construction of the house. :D

zing_deleted 03-10-2006 20:15
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
simple wired router and 2 homeplugs then :)

TheNorm 04-10-2006 09:32
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34128930)
simple wired router and 2 homeplugs then :)
I'll second that. Put one Homeplug device next to the router (but not through a "power conditioner"), and the other in any other socket in your home.

I really don't know why there is such a fuss made over wireless - it is not without problems, and in most situations is not necessary.

Halcyon 04-10-2006 13:30
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
I'm quite interested in these. Will be looking in to getting a pair some time soon. Anyone know the best place for price ?

Thanks.

altis 08-10-2006 15:41
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
There's some 'while-stocks-last' units at CPC for £19.50 each plus delivery (if the total is under £40) and VAT.
http://cpc.farnell.com/jsp/endecaSea...?SKU=CS1184027

I'm not sure if these are compatible with Homeplug but it could be a cheap way to start. More details here:
http://www.phonex.com/prd_nw14.htm

bluecandylover 20-01-2007 20:42
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Looks likie a good idea,how about if you have MULTIBLE computers, do you just by a single uniit for eac computer in the house? or does it only work in a pair?...

Example image:
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/2226/homeplug0vt.jpg

zing_deleted 20-01-2007 20:44
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you would have homeplugs for each machine

TheNorm 20-01-2007 20:44
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One for the router and one for each computer - just as you've described.

Solwise of Hull (http://www.solwise.co.uk/net-powerline.htm) have good products and offer a great service.

dragon 26-01-2007 17:23
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Out of interest if i had a couple of devices i wanted to connect to a router via the homeplug system that were in close proximity could i just put the devices on a switch/hub and then connect the hub to the homeplug adaptor?

Probably not going to bother since i get a fairly decent wi-fi signal but just wandering that if i did decide to get some homeplug adaptors if i could get away with using 2 adaptors rather than say 3.


Eg

Pc + Mac + xbox > Switch/Hub1

Switch/hub1 > Homeplug1

Homeplug2 > Router.

would that work or is it 1 homeplug adaptor needed per device.

zing_deleted 26-01-2007 17:24
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
the hub will work as a network switch as normal I believe

dragon 26-01-2007 17:27
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34206986)
the hub will work as a network switch as normal I believe
So basically the link between the switch and the router would work the same though homeplug as it would if id gone and plugged a switch directly into the back of the router (expect for the speed drop)

zing_deleted 26-01-2007 17:28
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
yep but its untested by me give them a call ask em :)

dragon 26-01-2007 17:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by zinglebarb (Post 34206990)
yep but its untested by me give them a call ask em :)
might do that sometime, depends if i decide to take some load off my wireless ;)

TheNorm 26-01-2007 19:12
Re: Homeplug is it the solution?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon (Post 34206984)
Out of interest if i had a couple of devices i wanted to connect to a router via the homeplug system that were in close proximity could i just put the devices on a switch/hub and then connect the hub to the homeplug adaptor?...
Yes, I've done this in my garage. A HomePlug device is in an electric socket, the ethernet lead goes into a switch, then I can have several devices (currently two) connected to the switch.


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