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sir_drinks_alot 19-09-2005 16:03
Nasa plans return to Moon
 
Ah why this is a Total wasted of money there are far more urgent problems that
Need fixing here on earth that the money needs to be spent on. :mad:

Nasa plans return to Moon by 2020

skyblueheroes 19-09-2005 16:22
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They never got there in the first place so this will be a first !

But, yes I agree. Typical Americans.

Hom3r 19-09-2005 16:26
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Excellent news.

I saw man walk on the moon in 1968, (I was 6 months old at the time).

SIR_DRINKS_ALOT - man has been on the moon since 1940's type "german moonbase" in google

Halcyon 19-09-2005 16:27
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Definately agree with you. Money could be put to much better uses.

marky 19-09-2005 16:29
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Originally Posted by david.ewles
Excellent news.

I saw man walk on the moon in 1968, (I was 6 months old at the time).
psst it was 1969 ;)

Hom3r 19-09-2005 16:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
psst it was 1969 ;)
my mistake I was born in 68:disturbd:

sir_drinks_alot 19-09-2005 16:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyblueheroes
They never got there in the first place so this will be a first !

But, yes I agree. Typical Americans.
You been watching capricorn one Again ;)

Hom3r 19-09-2005 16:34
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If you had the world where the space program didn't excist the world would be worse off.

The space program has lead to a lot of things:

medicine (Growing mehods in druds)
Satelites (weather sats help predice weather,sat TV, internet, commumications)
and others that I can't thing off at the moment.

Bill C 19-09-2005 16:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
Ah why this is a Total wasted of money there are far more urgent problems that
Need fixing here on earth that the money needs to be spent on. :mad:

Nasa plans return to Moon by 2020
Sorry have to disagree. If they are spending mega bucks on this they will hopefully not spend as much on weapons of war.

markmarkymark 19-09-2005 16:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.ewles

The space program has lead to a lot of things:

medicine (Growing mehods in druds)
Satelites (weather sats help predice weather,sat TV, internet, commumications)
and others that I can't thing off at the moment.
Non-stick frying pan (i think)

Martin 19-09-2005 17:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
Ah why this is a Total wasted of money there are far more urgent problems that
Need fixing here on earth that the money needs to be spent on. :mad:

Nasa plans return to Moon by 2020
It does seem a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere. BUT it is increasing our knowledge of space so it's not all bad.

Maggy 19-09-2005 17:42
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So if they find any useful resources on the moon who won't want to benefit from them? :erm:

marky 19-09-2005 17:46
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Cheese lots and lots of cheese and maybe yet unknown metals and minerals :)

Mick 19-09-2005 18:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin
It does seem a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere. BUT it is increasing our knowledge of space so it's not all bad.
True and the sad fact is we are not spending nearly enough.

The moon is severely undervalued if we think this is a waste of money - The moon has been said to help the stability of the Earth and keep it on its axis - without it the Earth wouldn't be able to sustain life as we know now and would spin around in all sorts of directions and I bet Nasa are also eager to look at what the other side of the moon is hiding seeing as they haven't seen it for quite some time now. :)

AndrewJ 19-09-2005 19:17
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
Ah why this is a Total wasted of money there are far more urgent problems that
Need fixing here on earth that the money needs to be spent on. :mad:

Nasa plans return to Moon by 2020
Why is it a waste of time be nice to acheive something other then new bombs war and doom on the telly to see us acheive this would be a great feat.

I personally am all for it :tu: what would you prefer sending more aid to countries but then pickout who and what you give who?

This is something for all countries to enjoy get the plasma's up in New Orleans and name the mission after them I say.
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Imagine charity sponsoring the moon ride for the rebuilding of New Orleans a million positive things could come from it.

Lets goto the moon, and take a 24pack of Stella with us.

Mal 19-09-2005 19:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skyblueheroes
They never got there in the first place so this will be a first !

But, yes I agree. Typical Americans.
Originally posted by Chris T in an old thread , proof that they did land ;) :D

Halcyon 19-09-2005 19:42
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I just hope that they get some good stuff done.
They have been conducting tests with plants so taking some up there and seeing if they could build a kind of dome with oxygen in would be a good thing to try out.

marky 19-09-2005 19:48
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They have had the biospheres for many years now ;)

sir_drinks_alot 19-09-2005 19:51
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I never said nasa should never go back to the moon but maybe we should sort out the ills of are own planet before we bugger other one up.

Hom3r 19-09-2005 20:13
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Google have pictures of the oringinal landers.

http://moon.google.com/

Zoom in for excellent close ups of landers

marky 19-09-2005 20:26
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What confuses me is when people say man never went to the moon, where does moon rock come from :dunce:

sir_drinks_alot 19-09-2005 20:32
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Originally Posted by marky
What confuses me is when people say man never went to the moon, where does moon rock come from :dunce:
southend or blackpool. :cool:

Mal 19-09-2005 20:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
What confuses me is when people say man never went to the moon, where does moon rock come from :dunce:
The nearest quarry? ;)

marky 19-09-2005 20:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
The nearest quarry? ;)
ooooh horwich ive heard lots of stories about winter hill :Yikes:

AndrewJ 19-09-2005 20:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
I never said nasa should never go back to the moon but maybe we should sort out the ills of are own planet before we bugger other one up.
That could be exactly what is needed to help this world, something to acheive something for entire countries to celebrate as we take bigger and bigger steps into space and explore new things.

You get a elevator crowded people fight and bicker after a while, that elevator is called Earth and is massivly overpopulated under-resourced and slowly decending into chaos as its natural system is destroyed. It is about time we looked to the stars as a goal to better ourselves not just end up rich fat *******s of a greedy race which was to self interested to actually make something of ourselves.

Bill C 19-09-2005 20:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saxodriver
That could be exactly what is needed to help this world, something to acheive something for entire countries to celebrate as we take bigger and bigger steps into space and explore new things.

You get a elevator crowded people fight and bicker after a while, that elevator is called Earth and is massivly overpopulated under-resourced and slowly decending into chaos as its natural system is destroyed. It is about time we looked to the stars as a goal to better ourselves not just end up rich fat *******s of a greedy race which was to self interested to actually make something of ourselves.
Some just like to complain about anything the yanks do. I have no problem with this return to the moon. I can see us benefiting from it. We have been trying to sort problems out on this planet for years and years. We will never do it in my life time. This however we will see completed in my life time so lets rock and roll and head back to the moon.

Should world piece break out tomorrow and we all end up getting along then of course i will withdraw my last statement :).

Just one last point. I will sit and watch them do this and applaud them. Not sit there and knock them every bit of the way :)

Xaccers 19-09-2005 21:10
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If only Kennedy hadn't pushed for it back in the 60's, we'd probably have a base on the moon by now and a safe shuttle

Martin 19-09-2005 21:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
ooooh horwich ive heard lots of stories about winter hill :Yikes:
I read an article ages ago about Winter Hill. A local rambler was ushered away by Men In Black!! Perhaps they didn't want anyone to discover there stash of Moon Rock !!! :p:

marky 19-09-2005 21:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin
I read an article ages ago about Winter Hill. A local rambler was ushered away by Men In Black!! Perhaps they didn't want anyone to discover there stash of Moon Rock !!! :p:
No joking the guy vanished after he told people :disturbd:

atlantis 19-09-2005 21:18
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We are explorers by nature.
To look at the stars, arms and minds stretching upwards:
"A man's reach should exceed his grasp, or what are the heavens for?"

LemonyBrainAid 19-09-2005 21:21
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Originally Posted by david.ewles
Google have pictures of the oringinal landers.

http://moon.google.com/

Zoom in for excellent close ups of landers
ROFL

Mal 19-09-2005 21:24
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Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid
ROFL
You know...you have just gone and spoiled the joke ;) :D

LemonyBrainAid 19-09-2005 21:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mal
You know...you have just gone and spoiled the joke ;) :D
Oh... whoops :(

dilli-theclaw 19-09-2005 21:33
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Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid
Oh... whoops :(
Ooooohh you naughty person you ;):D :sniper::doh:

AndrewJ 19-09-2005 21:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill C
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saxodriver
That could be exactly what is needed to help this world, something to acheive something for entire countries to celebrate as we take bigger and bigger steps into space and explore new things.

You get a elevator crowded people fight and bicker after a while, that elevator is called Earth and is massivly overpopulated under-resourced and slowly decending into chaos as its natural system is destroyed. It is about time we looked to the stars as a goal to better ourselves not just end up rich fat *******s of a greedy race which was to self interested to actually make something of ourselves.
Some just like to complain about anything the yanks do. I have no problem with this return to the moon. I can see us benefiting from it. We have been trying to sort problems out on this planet for years and years. We will never do it in my life time. This however we will see completed in my life time so lets rock and roll and head back to the moon.

Should world piece break out tomorrow and we all end up getting along then of course i will withdraw my last statement :).

Just one last point. I will sit and watch them do this and applaud them. Not sit there and knock them every bit of the way :)

:clap: :clap:

:tu:

sir_drinks_alot 19-09-2005 21:36
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Originally Posted by LemonyBrainAid
Oh... whoops :(

:redcard:

Mal 19-09-2005 21:37
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Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
:redcard:
What was the red card for? :knock:

Nugget 20-09-2005 10:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
I never said nasa should never go back to the moon but maybe we should sort out the ills of are own planet before we bugger other one up.
The moons not a planet...

SMHarman 20-09-2005 11:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.ewles
Google have pictures of the oringinal landers.

http://moon.google.com/

Zoom in for excellent close ups of landers
More Cheese Grommett
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marky
What confuses me is when people say man never went to the moon, where does moon rock come from :dunce:
According to Dan Brown you can achive similar circumstances with volcanic rock underwater.
(in Deception Point)

AndrewJ 20-09-2005 11:21
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Originally Posted by Nugget
Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
I never said nasa should never go back to the moon but maybe we should sort out the ills of are own planet before we bugger other one up.
The moons not a planet...

Trust the nuggmiester :rofl:

marky 20-09-2005 11:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHarman
More Cheese Grommett
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According to Dan Brown you can achive similar circumstances with volcanic rock underwater.
(in Deception Point)
Or this way http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/d...00/4092669.stm

Russ 20-09-2005 11:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SMHarman
According to Dan Brown you can achive similar circumstances with volcanic rock underwater.
(in Deception Point)
I wouldn't take seriously anything he puts in writing!

But that's another subject :spin:

Hom3r 20-09-2005 11:56
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read this about the German Moonbase that's been there since about 1942

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~he...25/page09.html

While your there check out the rest of the site about other conspiracyies at

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~hex/index.html

STONEISLAND 20-09-2005 12:51
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By 2020 :rofl: That in its self tells me the first landing was a load of rubbish.

Hom3r 20-09-2005 12:58
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Originally Posted by skunk4u
By 2020 :rofl: That in its self tells me the first landing was a load of rubbish.
Not really, in the earily sixties the cold war was at its height and there was a race to get to the moon, today there isn't a race, so they look and provide comfort for those lucky enough to get the job.

SMHarman 20-09-2005 13:13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skunk4u
By 2020 :rofl: That in its self tells me the first landing was a load of rubbish.
We live in a far more risk averse climate these days, back in the 60s they would probably have kept the shuttle flying with the foam falling off, afterall, one launch in 200+ was damaged by it so that is a 0.5% risk of mission failiure due to foam.

You may also recall the fire in the apollo missions http://history.nasa.gov/Apollo204/

How long would the rectification of this take now, less than 12 weeks in '67, compare to the last shuttle problem that had it grounded for
(STS 107 1/16/03 > STS114 7/26/05) about 2.5 years.

I'm sure we could take a satelite launcher such as arianne or a US equivilant and mod it quickly to travel to the moon and back, but the solution under design is far more comprehensive than that.

scoob 20-09-2005 13:39
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Sounds like a lot of money, but it's an investment.

Most of the contractors involved would be building weapons for the same amount of money otherwise - you only need look at the list of companies.

Which would you rather?

zoombini 20-09-2005 18:18
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Given that the moon would be a likely good base for the enhanced mice to stage a base station before the trips further afield, IMO it's a good idea. :)

marky 20-09-2005 18:51
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Originally Posted by zoombini
Given that the moon would be a likely good base for the enhanced mice to stage a base station before the trips further afield, IMO it's a good idea. :)
oooh mark now thinks about the mice in hitchikers guide to the galaxy, Is earth one big experiment :confused:

AndrewJ 20-09-2005 18:59
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First Sale on the moon, DHS with Linda Barker 30% off pay 2021.

marky 20-09-2005 19:00
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Originally Posted by Saxodriver
First Sale on the moon, DHS with Linda Barker 30% off pay 2021.
eerm i own part of it, my gran bought it for me ;)

AndrewJ 20-09-2005 19:04
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OOO then you will get a "missold your moon land policy" advert spammed on your space shuttles screen.

marky 20-09-2005 19:08
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Originally Posted by Saxodriver
OOO then you will get a "missold your moon land policy" advert spammed on your space shuttles screen.
Ive got a shuttle as well its just 1:72 scale :(

AndrewJ 20-09-2005 19:20
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Tired of a small shuttle, wishing you could hit warp 9?? come to Yes shuttle credit....

Hom3r 20-09-2005 19:47
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What will hapen to those who have bought land on the moon. You know those that have been for sale in 'Innovations' & 'I want one of those'

Would they get a compulsory land purchase.
I wish I'ld bought some moon land now.

marky 20-09-2005 19:50
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All i can say is if you owned land or farm in a certain part of the world, you wouldnt own it now, no compen paid ;)

AndrewJ 20-09-2005 20:01
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I may open a shop which sells piles of poo, and call it Microsoft since I bet copyrights do not include the moon.

ScaredWebWarrior 20-09-2005 20:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sir_drinks_alot
Ah why this is a Total wasted of money there are far more urgent problems that
Need fixing here on earth that the money needs to be spent on. :mad:

Nasa plans return to Moon by 2020
That's assuming that those willing to spend the money on getting to the Moon would spend it on those 'urgent problems' instead - if they had no choice.

I hope Man does go back there and carries on striving to expand our horizons. I'd rather see us making some progress where we can, instead of banging our heads against brick walls trying to fix things which just seem to defy all attempts at fixing them.

We can't solve war, hunger, flood, drought, earthquake, tsunami, nuclear proliferation, pollution, extinction, poverty, tragedy, death, disease etc. etc. etc. despite all the assurances from different quarters that 'if only' we did this or that, then we could eradicate such-and-such problem forever.

Quote:
God, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Halcyon 20-09-2005 21:11
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For those that got into buying a star, a piece of the moon, a moon crator, or whatever else, I'm afraid you were conned.
No part of the moon is for sale, or any star.

Bill C 20-09-2005 21:19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ScaredWebWarrior
That's assuming that those willing to spend the money on getting to the Moon would spend it on those 'urgent problems' instead - if they had no choice.

I hope Man does go back there and carries on striving to expand our horizons. I'd rather see us making some progress where we can, instead of banging our heads against brick walls trying to fix things which just seem to defy all attempts at fixing them.

We can't solve war, hunger, flood, drought, earthquake, tsunami, nuclear proliferation, pollution, extinction, poverty, tragedy, death, disease etc. etc. etc. despite all the assurances from different quarters that 'if only' we did this or that, then we could eradicate such-and-such problem forever.
good post :tu:

Hom3r 20-09-2005 21:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon
For those that got into buying a star, a piece of the moon, a moon crator, or whatever else, I'm afraid you were conned.
No part of the moon is for sale, or any star.
Not quite true

http://www.lunarregistry.com/?source=gmoon
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as well as

http://www.planetaryinvestments.com/

marky 20-09-2005 21:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.ewles
Ok but are you going to fight over it when they build a moonbase on your bit, they will send you a big :PP: and say come and get it if you want it ;)

Hom3r 20-09-2005 21:31
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Just thought NASA might need landing permission, and pay a parking fee for the lunar lander.

Mind you I wouldn't mind going to clamp it:disturbd:

marky 20-09-2005 21:34
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Originally Posted by david.ewles
Just thought NASA might need landing permission, and pay a parking fee for the lunar lander.

Mind you I wouldn't mind going to clamp it:disturbd:
Ok mate its gonna cost ya 30000000 for the call out fee and another 20000000 to remove the clamp, dont blame me you parked here didnt you read the sighn when you was going passed hubble.:disturbd:

patrickp 20-09-2005 21:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.ewles

As yet, nobody _owns_ the moon, so no-one can sell bits of it.

Presumably, when further landings are made and particularly when bases are established, there will be claims made, and we shall see what we shall see.

Hom3r 27-09-2005 22:07
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If you are unsure if the moon landing were fake or not download this document from my web site (all 3MB) and make up your own mind

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.ewles/cf/

and click on

Who Mourns For Apollo.doc

AndrewJ 27-09-2005 22:08
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Cheers will have a read.

marky 27-09-2005 22:16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.ewles
If you are unsure if the moon landing were fake or not download this document from my web site (all 3MB) and make up your own mind

and click on

Who Mourns For Apollo.doc
ive just had a quick look and page 6 about the stars is true, stars are pretty dim so wouldnt show up on the film due to the exposure :tu:


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