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Chrysalis 17-09-2005 04:32

ntl sales guy working at 10.30pm
 
Just had one coming round trying to sell me ntl at 10.30pm last night getting me out of bed, I see ntl still got time to employ these muppets.

Roy MM 17-09-2005 04:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Just had one coming round trying to sell me ntl at 10.30pm last night getting me out of bed, I see ntl still got time to employ these muppets.


Well i hope you gave them a tongue lashng at that time of the night.

Chris W 17-09-2005 08:41

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It's illegal to do door to door after 9pm... you are only allowed to visit people after 9pm if you have an appointment... you should report him!

Paul 17-09-2005 10:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis
Just had one coming round trying to sell me ntl at 10.30pm last night getting me out of bed, I see ntl still got time to employ these muppets.

That's right, they specifically recruited people to call at 10:30pm :rolleyes:

How on earth is it ntl's fault that a salesman decided to break the law, and unless people take his name and complain, how would they ever know ?

andygrif 17-09-2005 10:49

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Originally Posted by Paul M
That's right, they specifically recruited people to call at 10:30pm :rolleyes:

How on earth is it ntl's fault that a salesman decided to break the law, and unless people take his name and complain, how would they ever know ?

Whilst it may not be their fault per se, it is their responsibility to ensure that their staff are properly trained and that includes telling them when they are allowed to call on people.

I think I would be pretty miffed at ntl if that had happened to me too.

Chimaera 17-09-2005 10:53

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Whether they are properly trained or not, wouldn't they just have the common sense to know that 10.30 is a bit late to be knocking on people's doors?

Paul 17-09-2005 10:57

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Originally Posted by andygrif
Whilst it may not be their fault per se, it is their responsibility to ensure that their staff are properly trained and that includes telling them when they are allowed to call on people.

I think I would be pretty miffed at ntl if that had happened to me too.

Do you really think that any door to door salesman (ntl or otherwise) is not aware of the law ?

I'm quite sure this person did, and I'm equally sure ntl will not be aware of his activities unless he is reported. The post clearly implies that ntl employed this 'muppet' knowing what he would do, which is complete rubbish.

Jules 17-09-2005 12:29

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The man must be short of a brain cell or two, who does he thinks will welcome him with open arms to buy ANY thing off him when he goes knocking on their doors at that time

Chrysalis 17-09-2005 13:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
That's right, they specifically recruited people to call at 10:30pm :rolleyes:

How on earth is it ntl's fault that a salesman decided to break the law, and unless people take his name and complain, how would they ever know ?

Thats why hes a muppet, I didnt say ntl were to blame for the time.

Bill C 17-09-2005 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by andygrif
Whilst it may not be their fault per se, it is their responsibility to ensure that their staff are properly trained and that includes telling them when they are allowed to call on people.

I think I would be pretty miffed at ntl if that had happened to me too.

How can you make the assumption that he was not told ?

People are told not to

Take drugs
Speed
Kill people
Steal

But they still do it.

Sorry but if that salesman decided that he was going to break the law. How would his manager know that he was going to call on someone at that time of night. However if that salesman's manager then found out the next day because the person who he woke up asked for his name. Then his manager could do something about it :rolleyes: .

pop80_uk 17-09-2005 17:14

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Are you sure he was from NTL did you see any Id?
He might have been one of these fraudsters.

arcamalpha2004 17-09-2005 21:45

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Unfortunately all companies are responsible for the hours their employees work, what you call a duty of responsibility.

Who knows whether NTL care what time it was so long as they get a sale, but it still should have been reported.

slowcoach 17-09-2005 22:36

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Sounds to me as if he was checking if anyone was in the house prior to robbing it, either that or it shows just how hard it is to sell ntl products, poor sod.

Chrysalis 18-09-2005 05:47

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heh well good point made actually, I was so tired I didnt ask for id or anything but he wasnt let in either, I just concentrated on getting rid of him as fast as possible.

andygrif 19-09-2005 00:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
Do you really think that any door to door salesman (ntl or otherwise) is not aware of the law ?

Clearly not in this instance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul M
The post clearly implies that ntl employed this 'muppet' knowing what he would do, which is complete rubbish.

I didn't think the OP implied that from what he said.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C
How can you make the assumption that he was not told ?

Becuase the only other alternative leave me to conclude that he was told but PURPOSEFULLY elected to act in breach of both the law and direct instructions from his employers.

Either way is not too rosy.

And either way ntl is still responsible for his actions whilst he is on company business. And I agree, BTW, this loose cannon should be reported to the company to try and make sure that no-one else acts in this manner and he is dealt with accordingly.

hayesey 19-09-2005 12:37

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Originally Posted by Paul M
That's right, they specifically recruited people to call at 10:30pm :rolleyes:

How on earth is it ntl's fault that a salesman decided to break the law, and unless people take his name and complain, how would they ever know ?

if the salesman is employed by NTL then he IS NTL. Whether or not he was told to call at that time (which I very much doubt he was), he represents the whole company so you can't just say it's not NTL's fault. In my opinion anyway.

However, I think it's quite possible that this guy was either a scammer or checking your house out for a future robbery!

It needs reporting to NTL in any case.

dgr1577 19-09-2005 14:54

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Originally Posted by pop80_uk
Are you sure he was from NTL did you see any Id?
He might have been one of these fraudsters.

id rather have a fraudster at the door than an NTL salesman :D

arcamalpha2004 19-09-2005 16:39

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Originally Posted by dgr1577
id rather have a fraudster at the door than an NTL salesman :D

No brainer really isnt it? rather have a jehovahs witness :)

Jules 19-09-2005 17:01

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I never have a problem with them, I answer the door they tell me why they are there and I tell them no thanks I have it already phone/tv/bb and off they go :)


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