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im so happy the BNP has lost 2 seats in the by-elections in lancashire and halifax yorkshire

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/l...re/3199144.stm

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Thanks to the lack of action from the goverment it wont be long before they get more back though :)

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but what can the current government do ?

its a democracy people cry

on the subject of democracy when did it become a forum rule that one cannot express a view of displeasure towards the BNP all i said was i hope they are eradicated ASAP :confused:

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SHUT the door and sod the do gooders. We out number the do gooders. The only difference is we dont moan all the time like them


Or perhaps we can just wait for the roit's

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Well there's a ringing endorsement of the principles of democracy!

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But their wasn't any was their. I don't remember the people being asked if they wanted Britian flooded with immigrants

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:rolleyes:

~must.....resist.......must ....resist......Defiant talking rubbish!!! ~


:blah:= Defiant



I hear all the seats that the BNP won are thinking of kicking them out. They do absolutely nowt. They dont turn up for meetings, they dont do anything for their constituants, they do hee haw basically!!

Even the racists want them out!!

Yea go for it Defiant.......waste your vote!!!! Oh thats right can you actually vote yet? If i remember rightly you were still at school or something so it was just school yard banter you were basing your views on were you not?

Ta Ta.......away to do some more do gooder work tonight!! :rolleyes:

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I'm glad we have the BNP in the UK. If it wasn't for the BNP showing us all how vile their beliefs are we might find ourselves slowly edging in their direction.

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Ok guys, Tender subject here.. Can we please refrain from the Personal abuse and keep it on topic? :)

I understand the frustration, Both sides have there own points of view, and thats there point of view, which they're entitled to so long as it isnt too extreme with regards to the forum T&C.

Thanks.

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well some or should i say alot of people are edging there way... the BNP is a racist party who strive for white supremacy not equality

the uk independance part is still the best IMO if they carry out the critera which they have set out


http://www.independence.org.uk/home.shtml

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Thats your opinion Kronas, as your entitled to have :) My opinion is that your wrong, but thats another story.

My vote, at the moment lies with no one. I think the parties we have on offer are utter tripe and this needs rectifying.. The goverments are there for us, and we're just sitting back and letting them argue amongst themselves, whilst not doing anything benificial to us.

Let me just add something to the discussion, that hopefully wont lead us off topic.

Why are so many people edging towards the BNP if they are as bad as many people portray them to be? Is it because the upcoming adults of today are stupid? Or is it because there one main campaign argument strikes home? I read the article about BNP losing seats.. Maybe thats a good thing, because I tell you now, there's going to be a real influx in votes for the BNP, in the upcoming year, In stoke, if no where else.

I would like to reiterate, that I dont support, the BNP, or even necessairly agree with there views.

Please can we keep reponses to this thread un-offensive. Cheers :)

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as long as we agree to a civilized discussion and accept our opinions and put our points forward i hope this thread goes somewhere


same here although im leaning towards the party i mentioned in my previous post

they lie they decieve they bicker amongst each other provide polices that the public wants to hear but they do very little or what they do is in the end is not what the voter wants...........


the BNP is made up of racists trying to encorage people to vote for them by using immigration and other such factors to sway support ofcourse what you see on the outside is clearly not what you get on the inside

any opnion is good towards a discussion as long as you dont talk out of your a*se ;)

yes i agree to that :)

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You be able to vote in the next election Steve ? Depends when your birthday is I guess.

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The thing I was trying to get at, was there's a reason they're targetting Immigration. Generally,.. I guess that people are fed up with with the current rules on immigration.. Which seems VERY insignificant to some at the moment, But if it carries on the counties gonna be full, Literally.

I'll be 18 in 9 monthes Nor.

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Yes, I welcome the defeat of the BNP. The BNP is a collection of rather unpleasant people, it includes thugs and law breakers and the link to Searchlight magazine provides a glimpse into these personalities. I suspect some people join without realising what they have done or without thinking through the facts. Unfortunately, people look for easy answers and the BNP 's racist policies may apppear attractive to some but in reality social and economic problems are more complex.

I think the general decline in Conservative Party support is a key to the success of right wing groups like the BNP. A strong Conservative Party would lead to these extreme right groups declining. Also there clearly has been some disillusionment with the Labour Party in certain localities, which unfortunately is seen by some as being aloof from their day to day problems. I think it is up to decent people whether Conservative, Liberal or Labour supporters to learn lessons and act together to halt any further penetration by the BNP anywhere.

http://www.searchlightmagazine.com/default.asp

:)

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Next one needs to be before June 2005 and with the way the opinion polls are going I guess I can't really see them going for an early 2004 one so you'll probably be in luck :)

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I vote BNP.

Whats the problem????

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to have any chance for voting labour out i would need to vote conservative, but all the opposition parties have grand ideas about what they will do and all of them will amount to nothing if we don't tear up the human rights treaty and none of them will do this.

the trouble is none of the main parties can be trusted to hold to their promises BNP are they only one's you can guarantee to stop the tide of bogus asylum seekers the current rate is unsustainable.

it's a no win situation, i don't want to vote for BNP but the mainstream parties have forced my hand.

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Do I vote in Reading then?

BNP
PO Box 287,
Waltham Cross,
Herts. EN8 8ZU

Tel:- 01992 631677

These are the seats currently:
South East [10]
East England [9] (2 Basildon & Broxbourne)
W Midlands [23] (5 last time †“ 1 each in B'ham, Stoke & Dudley; 2 in Sandwell)
E Midlands [11] (1 last time †“ by-election in Leic)
South West [17] (0 last time)
Mid South [6] (0 last time)
North West [44] (21 last time. Burn 13; Old 5; Wig 1; Southp 1; Liv 1)
North East [54] (9 last time. Gateshead 3; Sunderland 6)
Yorkshire [46] (7 last time. LS 1; BD 1; DN 1; Dews 4)
Scotland [1] (0 last time)

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The current government have tried to change the immigration laws but have been told by the court of human rights that they can't. How exactly are the BNP going to do anything different? Are they going to send the boys round and break their knee caps?

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They really must have a great PR company if they are making people I would normally consider smart believe that they can and will change anything to do with asylum, maybe Ntl should get their number!

I think anyone that votes BNP should look at their policies on other things like education, transport or tax, I think you'll have a shock :dozey:

The BNP are all :blah: and no action, just look at the seats they already hold people there can't wait to off load them.

The BNP are a joke, a bit like most political party's in this country :rolleyes:

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Well how little you know about whats happening out their then. Me wel after gettig back from the pub. One I've not been in for a long time and listening to them go on about all the bloody immigrants shows you know nothing about the real world. apart from YOURS of course.

I'm always going to remember the bloody do gooders like others will. You know its a shame. I know so many people that came to this country to live that think the same thing

Enoughs enough

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So tell me then D, what exactly are they going to do to stop illegal immigrants coming into the country?

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Precisley. WHy should britain have to put up with all the illegals, when other countries refuse them eh? Whats the "Court of human rights" Gonna do, If we refuse to let them in?, Which is what the BNP want to do.

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You ever tried to work in the US?
It's very nearly impossible. :rolleyes:

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Hang on a sec. Kronas is a "man of colour"(isn't he?), if he isn't entitled to heap abuse on the BNP then who is?!

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What do you mean? :confused:

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You mustn't have been here after the war when there were labour shortages:o

Also employers like immagrants as they tend to work for less money, so even the right [wing] are for immagration sometimes.

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Well....the BNP are anti black people in the UK, kronas is a black British man living in the UK so I think that he of all people is entitled to speak out against the BNP, since they are anti-him!

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Simple you kick them out to the first neutral country they were in last. Or you lock them up for a few months to show them its not a nice country and then allow the public to KICK them back on the ferry's

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I think some people seem to be going back a few years and still thinking this thing is just about anti colour when its not. Its about immigrants full stop. I know like I've said already people that have settled over here that think the same thing. Their not daft they know its not going to be fair on them and their family either if it carrys on. Common sense really

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I have not a clue about anything you said there!!

What I gather though is that you think I do not live in the real world. Um...no actually I do!! Possibly in a more real world than you do anyway as you base all your opinions on school yard banter and what other people and the Dail Mail say.
The other night i was working with a group of young asylum seekers.....possibly the most humbling experiance of my life. They were so eager to learn about how it is to live in the West and when someone spoke in there own language they were quick to point out that I did not understand them and tell me what they were saying. One of them was telling me that their parents asylum application had just been accepted and they were so happy as now they felt that their lives had been saved.

I was talking to one of the other workers who was telling me about a young girl whos fingers had been chopped off as she had been caught wearing nail varnish. Her application had been refused on a technicality........you will be glad at that Defiant and darant as she was then branded "bogus" you would have enjoyed driving her into the sea with you and your BNP policies :2up:

I meet people like you every day of my life and i will continue to challenge you no matter where i meet you......I even would chalenge you in the street if i met you or anyone else for that matter. On the subject of racism and the BNP enough is never enough even though you would like to think that when you run out of your petty arguments about "race" and "our" country and still bleat them over and over again......almost as if someone was stabbing you in the side instead of asking for help.

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If it was that easy then the current government would be doing it, what do you think the current detention centres are for?

I think we really need to look through the hysteria that newspapers like the sun and the daily mail have created and try and remember why we have immigration laws in the first place. Many of the people that come to this country have come here in fear of their lives, theses people need to be welcomed with open arms, they need our help and support to rebuild their lives.

However on the other side of the coin yes we do have a (growing) number of people trying to claim asylum that do not meet the criteria to enter, yes theses people should be rebuffed and should not be allowed into the country.

One thing you have to remember is that many of these "bogus" claimants do not even know what criteria there are or even that they were to be questioned before they were let into the country. Many of these unfortunate people have been conned into thinking that they can travel thousands of mile to come to our country for a better life for them and their family's. This is not true, and our civil services (not the government) do their best to look after them and send them home.

The civil service can only do what the law states, this is a plain and simple fact. The government have tried to change the laws to help with the current situation but the court of human rights have rebuffed their plans. This is not the governments fault, there is NOTHING they or any future government can do. This is yet another plain and simple fact.

If you have a BNP man / woman standing on your doorstep telling you something different the I suggest that you laugh in his/her face and shut the door, because they are lying to you.

I agree with you that people that try to claim asylum but are not eligible should be sent back as soon as possible to prevent money being waisted but they do have a right to appeal, and wouldn't you if you were in their shoes?

The problem here is that some people in the country are unhappy about the way the asylum system is working in this country and the BNP have decided that it would benefit them to join the witch hunt to further their own ends. So far all I have heard is people repeating the BNPs promises to change the asylum system but no one can tell me how they intend to do it, this is because they don;t know themselves.

I watched question time in the spring before the easter break and they were in an area where the BNP had seats (cant remember where exactly) and the issue of the local BNP candidates came up and people there couldn't wait to get rid of them because they had made promises to people than couldn't deliver them.

This is a very emotive subject but people need to remember there are human beings behind the headlines ;)

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the problem is that the BNP are riding on peoples anger at certain issues the backgrounds of certain members (key members) show that they are racist they are out there to alienate non whites who actually do give back to this country

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ill answer this one i think funds would have to be relocated to a sort of special force which deals with finding immigrants they find and locate where they are flooding from and keep them in holding cells till they are deported there details would be noted and if they reattempted to enter the uk and are caught then they would have to be incacirated harsh but fair IMO


ramrod the anti-black thing is an issue i am against but apart from that just looking at the party member backgrounds from links i have seen you have to realise people like them dont change they are hiding there real image to get in to power........

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I'm afraid that this shows one of my points to be true. You cant do this, it just isn't possible, international law states that you must go through certain procedures when dealing with people that are trying to claim asylum (for good reason).

I do stand with you in believing that people that aren't entitled to enter the country legally should be sent back promptly but they ways the BNP (and other political party's :rolleyes: ) are offering just cant be implemented, we would end up in SOOOOO much trouble.

As an aside, it would be morally wrong to do as you have stated :(

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While I'm in the thread, can one of you who vote for the BNP please tell me what their other policy's are??

You could start with transport, or education, maybe social services?

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Yea think of the billions saved if we kept out economic migrants, Housing, Dhss, legal aid etc

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Possibly in your "top ten" of idiotic posts!!!

BUT....I shall try and tell you what an economic migrant is!!

An economic migrant my dear Defiant is someone who had been allowed entry into the country as they have a valued skill. ie a doctor, nurse or other skilled trade. A bit like people that go away to Australia for a few years...they are economic migrants!!!

Go and read some books eh!!

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I see them in parts of this area as people that try and get everything they can from the system. You must be in Cuckoo land.


We know what your views are thought dont we. DOORS WIDE OPEN

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Defiant, I think the problem here is your talking at cross purposes because your using the wrong words to describe people. If you reread the comment above then you will see that an economic migrant is someone who has a particular skill that we need and is here legally (they are here to HELP the country, not take from it).

The people you should be unhappy about are the illegal asylum seekers, people that have no right to be here, not people that are here legally.

If your going to accuse people of being in cuckoo land then I guess you should make sure you use the right terminology to describe people. I don;t think its your fault as the papers and people like the BNP use the various terms interchangeably which they aren't :(

But still you haven't told me HOW they will change the system, and what their other policy's are. Without policy's that can work on every aspect of government then they will destroy the country, yes there may be no illegal immigrants but there will be no economy, schools or hospitals either. Would you like to live in a country like that?

I understand that you are unhappy with the level of "bogus" asylum seekers, but voting BNP will not solve these issues.

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There are lots of people in the UK that do that? Why do you not bother with benifits cheats...they are just as big a drain!

I take it you dont like them as they are black?

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some of that is already being done i dont mean treat them rough or anything like that i mean if they made attempts to enter more then once they have clearly been analysed to be coming to this country for alterior motives and not running away from persucation they would have to be dealt with.......

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Here we go again a muppet with a colour problem. Well muppet are most of the eastern europeans black. NOPE correct so get off your racist horse.

As for "benifits cheats" well why should we have to be dealing with everyone else's problems when like you say we've got our own problems to sort out first. Very nice of you to admit we have these problems though

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Well, the BNPs issues are generally around black people and you support them......
You see Defiant, the only issues you go on about are the ones that involve people that are not white.


As usuall you impress me with your amazingingly well thought out arguments!!

The countries problems will never be fixed .......quite handy as you do not want to help anyone else.

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So I'm guessing your black or something because everytime someone mentions immigrants you put your do gooder hat on and start accusing them of being racist. Well as I've said before carry on because your helping to make them with that attitude. The only problem I've got is immigrants in general and their not all black OR brown,yellow. I'll even mention those pesky grey Alien's that come over without asking :Peace:



And you amaze me aliferste. You know what's gonna happen if its left to carry on and if you have kids like me then you should put them first. Not your idea's that every scrounging git is welcome over here. The tax payers and goverment are easy...

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The BNP are mindless thugs, I know I've had family members, who work in Oldham threatened by them, and we are not visibally foreign or speak with an accent. I admit my biased and with good cause.

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An economic migrant is someone who emigrates to another country motivated by economic reasons.

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Exactly and we have allot of them queuing up in Europe to get here

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Thats a very good point and very emotive but we are still being exploited by bogus assylum seekers. What dosn't help either is liberal do-gooders spending hundreds of thousands of pounds of our money on no-hope appeals. Like the one for an assylum seeker from Lithuania....ffs!

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Exactly. I am somewhat for BNP policies as they can talk a good talk these days and appear to be working for British people (irrespective of colour) but deep down they don't change and will revert to type(imo). A bit like New Labour:rolleyes:

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Because we're a soft touch!
Defiant, your hearts in the right place but I honestly think that you are being mislead by the BNP.
I am white and I am a racist (I am ashamed to admit it but I am) Taken individually non-white people are fine and I get on perfectly well (and like/admire) many. The problem comes when you get a collection of non-white (male) people together. I come all over defensive and paranoid. Maby it's my upbringing, maby it's the racism I have suffered as a teenager at the hands of black kids, I don't know.
The point I am making is that anyone who was anti-black enough to become a paid up member of the BNP is not going to 'change his spots' and realise the error of his ways. They are just repositioning themselves to get more of the vote.

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that we are i still think they must tighten up secuity at the access points to the uk and just send them back the same day or next day..... fast track system maybe unless they really are running away from persicution you also have to take in to account the beaurocracy/red tape with proccesing applications you cant do much more then that really

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Thats the thing though, it is all talk.


Defiant, you keep spouting stuff, but there is no substance to it, go back to my last post and try and give me some answers, I'd like to know what their other policy's are and what EXACTLY are they going to do to rid this country of "bogus" (I hate that media induces word) asylum seekers?

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Ah, so you got your information from the blokes at the pub? Where do they get their info from?

I know there are too many illegal immigrants in this country. However, unless you have the police searching every building in the country, how do you get rid of them?

BTW, can somebody explain to me the difference between what the BNP is saying now and what the Nazis said in 1939? I seem to remember that Hitler preached about foreigners taking German jobs back then.

I know people that are members of the BNP. Trust me, you do not want these people in power.

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No I got my info with my own eye's and they got theirs that way too.

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at least hitler got the trains to run on time

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And invented the motorways. As for his idea's on europe well all he had to do was start the EU

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Very true and yet somewhat provocative (and my father was in the SS):nono:

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Possibly the most unreliable way of getting information and facts there is Defiant......you only see what you want to see and hear what you want to hear.

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Or the British Empire, which was around long before Hitler.


He also killed millions of innocent people, both in his own and other countries (and I don't just mean Jews).

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OK......so what you guys are saying is that because Hitler had like a few good things going for him then all the rest must have been good as well.

Saddam had a pretty good regime going then......he had the electricity going quickly after the first war and kept fantastic law and order.

Ramrod....when you say you feel nervous around groups of black men i think what you are feeling is "Xenophobia" a fear of strangers. Perfectly normal.




NOTE FOR DEFIANT Xenophobia sounds like zenafobia...

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:rolleyes:

Im sorry Defiant, were only talking about "real life" people in this debate. Not made up stuff!

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D, you keep glossing over our requests for policy's.

The grass always looks greener. :rolleyes:

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Damn your one funny guy. Well lets see how funny you are in 5/10yrs if nothings done

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I blush with your compliments


:blush:

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How wrong you are. Hitler led his country into total ruin and destruction and along the way murdered over six million jews. The BNP is not much different from the German Nazis being led by thugs and **** who have nothing to offer this country except hatred and violence.

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Ignore him then, but you STILL haven't come up with any compelling evidence that the BNP would do what they say. Come on, prove me wrong.

I find it distressing that there are people out there that base their political views on what they are told down the pub. It's rather sad in my opinion, what a waste of a vote :(

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Dellwear. Do the BNP have a view on homosexuals that you know of?

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He did not invent them! What else do you think you cold be wrong about?


http://home.att.net/~texhwyman/autobahn.htm

What is widely regarded as the world's first motorway was built in Berlin between 1913 and 1921. The 19 km long AVUS, in southwestern Berlin, was an experimental highway that was (and occasionally still is) used for racing. It featured two 8 meter lanes separated by a 9 meter wide median. Italy built several expressways in the 1920s and Germany followed with its first "auto-only roads" opening in 1929 between DÃÃâ€*’¼sseldor f and Opladen and in 1932 between Cologne and Bonn. More routes were planned in the early '30s and Adolf Hitler, seeing the propaganda benefits of a high-speed road system (as well as the immediate military and employment value) started a program to build two north-south and east-west links.

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The one person I have met that was a member, said they didn't (I think he was trying to get my vote :erm: ) but, I guess I'm not a straight white male who does manual work and beats up everyone who looks at them, so yer, probably :rolleyes:

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Q: What is the BNP's policy in regard to homosexuality?


A: We believe that homosexuality is unhealthy for any community. Even so, no one wants to see homosexuals which make up less than 2% of the entire population persecuted for being what they are. That's why homosexuality was legalised. Nevertheless, the flood of homosexual propaganda to 'normalise' this tendency has been both unforeseen and corrupting. Consequently, there will be a ban on the public display and promotion of homosexuality, including in schools and in the mass media.


http://www.bnp.org.uk/faq.html#homos


NOTE......look at the link name :rolleyes:

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It would be like putting the school yard bullys in charge of the country :rolleyes:

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To all homosexuals here: Do you feel that homosexuality is 'normal' I know it's normal for you if you are homosexual but is it 'normal' in the greater scheme of things? In your opinion.

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That it would.....


but the BNP's policies seem to speak for the common man and echo what a lot of us are saying on the topic of immigration and 'Britishness'. They are probably trying to get votes, it's a shame they are inexorably linked to racism and intolerance. It is also a shame that any anti-immigration sentiments are automatically linked to intolerance .

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Speaking as an Individuel, ( I have No Problem at all with homosexuals..) I do not want to see them kissing in public.

Whats wrong with getting information from someone in a pub? :rolleyes:

They must be annoyed with it themselves, and want something done.

Why not form our own party.. :D (Not a bad idea actually :p)

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As I mentioned in another thread the BNP spread rumours through the pub, they said that Oldham council removed the owl symbols from the ballards because it was offensive to muslims. Two things:

1) they removed them because they we being judged for a contest and they didn't have enough owls to cover all of them (things should match).

2) Muslims DON'T EVEN FIND OWLS OFFENSIVE.

Nick Griffen personally believes the holocost never happened.:2up:

MY uncle escaped from outsvits (spell?) :grind:

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Because they themselves are getting there information from someone else in the pub....who may have made it up :)

Its called hearsay.

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Do you not get out or are you living in another country to the rest of us. Your talking [img]Download Failed (1)[/img] and know it.

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Actually, it's quite possible that homosexuality is alive and well in the BNP. Most fascist groups are quite good at this. The BNP's mentors the British Union of Fascists, the German Nazis and the S.A. (the brownshirts) and indeed their leader Ernst Rohm, and Mussolini's blackshirts were well known for homosexual activities. Maybe there are homosexuals amongst the BNP leaders.

Me I'm quite normal,happily married and a life long anti-fascist, my family suffered from fascism and I've no intention of letting fascist **** doing here what they've done elsewhere.

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I guess it depends how you define 'normal'

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Lets say that 'normal' is like most of the population. In terms of their sexual preference.
Does that help you andwer my question?

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So you do have a problem with them....?

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OOHHHHH!!!
Whats "normal" ?
To my m8 "normal" is going down the pub at the weekend and drinking 10 pints and then getting a kebab on the way home. To me "normal" at the weekend is having a quite night in with my partner having a nice glass of wine. My dancing arms are now in retirement (can be brought out at a moments notice however :) )
I would say was both have a "normal" life at the weekend

So whats "normal" in sexual preference?


I seen two straight guys snog each other the last time i was out clubbing.....was that normal??

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Possibly the people I mix with are better informed?

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Erm... OK..

So, you'd believe the man in the pub. Who, whether deliberately or not, may be wrong. Certain people may even believe and be spouting the BNP's propaganda.

I personally DON'T believe that we have as much of a problem with immigration as the press makes out. But, then I do tend to question most things I read or hear.

I don't know about where you live and work, Salford may have a bad immigration problem. I do know that there is not a bad problem round where I work and live. And I do work in a **** area.

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No it isn't, and you know it!

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A Believer!!!!

There are a number of Asylum Seekers placed near me....it was one of the areas that they all got dumped in. I couldnt meet a nicer crowd of people. Never any trouble and highly respectfull of people that help them.

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But they were straight????
They laughed about it the next day......it was a short kiss...but still a kiss!!

Do you think they are gay?

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Anyway, the fact is........the BNP are rubbish in the places that they won seats, they dont turn up for meetings and do nothing. If you guys wanna vote for a party like that....GREAT

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Of course I don't think they are gay but that dosn't mean that their behaviour was normal

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Tell that to the people living in Margate and Broadstairs, they will be very happy for you...

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The thread is getting a bit heavy so i will tell an amusing joke to lighten the mood before we all start tearing each other to shreds again :)

Q : How do you confuse a Daily Mail reader?

A : Tell them that asylum seekers are the natural predators of paedophiles.




Im in at the red wine again tonight guys :drunk:

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:D




...beer tonight:)

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No I didn't believe the man in the pub. There was infact a room (vault) full of people talking about this and living in the same area. I already knew what they were talking about. The massive influx here started about 5/6yrs ago and has not stopped. Anyone from this area will tell you its not a place for the goverment to start messing around with either

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Defiant, Im sorry, I have not a clue what you are on about here. Vaults of people?

Massive influx?

Is it asylum seekers you dont like moving into your area or people from other ethnic backgrounds like Pakistanis and people from India etc?

In all seriousness!

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Whose to say they are better informed? Just because there idea's relate more to your own, does that make them better informed?

We are just as right as you think you are, The world we live in is one of Free thoughts (There isnt any Freedom of Speech anymore, For precisly the issue we're discussing!) And we can think what we want. If the majority think that, then I guess that makes it right in a democracy.

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Oh I'm sorry let me explain. In British pubs they have rooms which have the name vault outside them

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Very nice clean people Indian’s and nothing against them. I've even been around for a meal at the neighbour’s (Indians) and enjoyed their company. They made an effort to settle you see but you’re trying to change the argument here yet again. It’s about the influx of immigrants that shows no sign of stopping