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https://www.express.co.uk/showbiz/tv...g-trump-speech

Can’t believe “BBC Verify” didn’t pick this up!

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there will be the normal excuse of we should have picked up on it sooner and we will investigate ways so that it does not happen again (read not get found out doing it again). Starmer will do nothing as he has enough issues of his own to brush under the carpet without getting involved with the BBC

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if Trump gets wind of it [pun intended] it'll bye bye trade deals and hello tariffs

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For those wondering, its an episode of Panarama they are referring to.

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In the days before AI, there were the video and audio editors at the BBC....

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I doubt he cares.

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Seems like a desperate attempt to make something out of nothing TBH.

Thats called editing, pretty much a part of ever single TV show.
So their gripe seems to be it wasnt edited how "they" would have liked.

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No the gripe is that the video was edited to imply he directly incited people to go to Capitol Hill and fight fight fight.

It wouldn't really be that much a deal, only that the BBC have made themselves the self arbiters of truth against Mis-information and Dis-information.

Where here they have deliberately doctored video to push a narrative.

If it wasn't for Mariella Spring and BBC Verify, I probably wouldn't care. But I can't abide hyprocrisy.

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You have to be on a hook before you can be let off it ...

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Good

https://news.sky.com/story/tim-davie...neral-13467527

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And which woke wonder will take his place

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I find this a bit odd as it's a relatively minor scandal. The BBC under Davie has had far bigger scandals than this.

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That’s because you’re swallowing the BBC’s relentless spin over the weekend that this relates only to an ‘oopsie!’ moment in a Panorama edit suite during which Trump may have been badly edited but was really only made to say what everyone already knew he meant. The purveyors of official comedy opinion on HIGNFY said as much on Friday night’s show, on the 15 or so seconds devoted to it.

This whole thing comes back to the Michael Prescott memo which the Telegraph got hold of last week, which tore the BBC to shreds over a range of issues. It shed light on the Panorama incident - which actually is extremely serious, and a failure of standards that is egregious and shocking for a broadcaster of the BBC’s reach and reputation - and it also detailed problems at the BBC’s out-of-control Arabic unit, which has been cheerleading for Hamas in a way the main newsroom has never done even for British armed forces since before the Falklands. The memo also set out what a lot of people have long suspected, that the BBC’s own LGBTWTAF desk has been acting as effective gatekeeper and censor, ensuring not only that approved stories are treated in approved ways, but preventing inconvenient material getting airtime at all.

The BBC’s news and current affairs operation is utterly out of control, except that parts of it absolutely are under the control of various interest groups. All of this has happened on Davie’s and Turness’ watch and they had no choice but to go.

The BBC is doing what it likes to do on its website these days and running rolling text updates which, amongst other things, allow it to acknowledge and then bury parts of the story it finds especially problematic. It has acknowledged the memo’s criticism of its Gaza and Trans coverage in this paragraph published half an hour ago: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9k...3144b853a#post

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The reason why he resigned over this was mentioned on the BBC 10pm news last night. It was said that he has had to deal with the pregnant people/women issue, Huw Edwards, the Gaza boy commentary and the various Linekar incidents..

It was said that he had "no fight in him left" and that the Trump speech editing was what broke the camels back.

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Trump has been gloating about these resignations on Twitter/X, so he is aware. Hopefully this will appease the manchild enough to prevent any spite regarding trade deals/tarrifs.

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How much will he get as a leaving back hander

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. . . and will it affect his pension?


*asking for same friend

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I think you mean Trump's lesser known competitor to X (Truth Social?) not on Musk's X platform itself.

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It suits the BBC to blame Panorama’s treatment of Trump for these resignations because the BBC calculates, with some justification, that so many UK viewers either hate, or are indifferent towards, Donald Trump that it makes the BBC’s problems seem somewhat less serious. An editorial oversight. A one-off.

The reality is however that the BBC’s problems are widespread, systemic and chronic, as the Prescott memo laid bare. And the Times is keeping the pressure up this morning with an interview in which a former BBC staffer sets out the way she was forced out of the corporation for having sacreligious views on gender.

https://www.thetimes.com/article/256...7186d4758d2138

(Should be a free-to-read gift link)


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… meanwhile Times Radio interviews a former Panorama producer, David Elstein, who also was Channel 5’s launch CEO and is a former Head of News at Sky, i.e. he knows of what he speaks. It’s worth listening to the whole 3 minute clip; it isn’t just a ‘wouldn’t have happened on my watch’ - although he insists it wouldn’t have and is bemused at how standards can have slipped so far that it happened now - it’s a patient take-down of the BBC’s failure to engage with a serious, well-researched critical report for six months and then to try to trivialise it by claiming, as it has been doing all weekend, that its problems go little further than a cutting room error vis a vis Donald Trump - an error which, in Elstein’s view, would result in a very substantial libel settlement in Trump’s favour, were he inclined to sue.

https://x.com/timesradio/status/1987...330922995?s=61

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Poor old Aunty always under atrack from ever side. Politicians have always tried to control/ influence their output. With the best will in the world they are never going to get everything right, given the amount of their output. If we lose a independent public service broadcaster, then all hope is lost for unbiased quality broadcasting. You'd be left with 20 mins of ads an hour on every channel and imported repeated crap, and Farage doing the 'news' he likes.

They should go on strike for a month, withdraw all channels , radio, iplayer, website etc, permission for any other channel to show their output. Lets see how the public like what would be left.

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And here we go.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cd9kqz1yyxkt

So Trump's legal team are now threatening to sue the BBC, which basically means all of us as licence payers, for a sum of at least $1 billion.

Now obviously a threat to sue, doesn’t necessarily mean they will, or it will succeed if they tried. But it has made the news!

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They are pretty bang to rights if it goes to court they are not gonna get away with it

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The bbc will probably settle out of court i would say circa $12 million

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Be careful what you wish for!

As it happens I agree with you, historically the BBC has had an enviable reputation for impartiality, trustfulness etc. And even with the current issues, I still think it is far better than competitors on this.

But it doesn’t take too much for that trust to be lost; it does seem that recently, the BBC, maybe desperately to be extra impartial etc, has found itself held hostage by various interest groups who just wish to push their own agenda, and the BBC seems to be paralysed by fear to do anything about it.

It’s a failure of management, senior and middle, for not getting a grip on this before and allowing it to become the major issue that it never needed to be.

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This argument boils down to a claim that the BBC should be free to behave with limitless incompetence and/or corporate malice because its existence, under any circumstances, is preferable to its non-existence. That is obvious nonsense. I believe in public service broadcasting in principle, but if the BBC is becoming institutionally incapable of delivering it, or even adequately reforming itself so that it can, then it has to go. No organisation has an unqualified right to exist on taxpayer funds.

The thing that has caused me to worry that the BBC may be past the point of no return is the reports of senior editors deferring to identitarian Millennials and Gen-Zs in their newsrooms. If the older, experienced journalists aren’t in charge, and the wide-eyed, idealistic kids are, then they’re in serious trouble.

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As they should. This editorial breach was so egregious, it’s undefendable. They need to make a very generous out-of-court settlement. If it stings the budget, they can make a massive saving by ending their bizarre, super-sized obsession with drag queens. There’s one on just about every show now, it must be costing a fortune.

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So one mistake, the end of our national broadcaster, at the insistence of a foreign head of state? The BBC have already admitted the error, and the top guy has taken responsibility.

Unless Trump pays the licence fee, he should button it ( bet he watches iPlayer on a VPN, on account all US tv is crap).

Sir K should tell him to do one. He won't of course.

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Millennials will be mid 40s to 30s now I am afraid to say. There will be some seniors there. :D

I don't think drag queens are especially expensive.

It's drama and scripted television that's quite expensive.

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I think the BBC was in a lot of trouble anyway. British television is increasingly an arm of American broadcasting, even ITV might be sold to Comcast, and they cannot compete with the budget of these shows that are targeting a transatlantic audience. Not to mention that with social media, the audience is overlapping a lot anyway.

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Again, and as I’ve said repeatedly in this thread, it’s not one mistake, it’s not all about one bad edit on Panorama. The BBC has been spinning that line ever since the memo they’ve been sitting on for 6 months got leaked because they believe the bit featuring Trump is the bit most people are likely to forgive. In your case it’s clearly going exactly as planned.

The Prescott Memo is wide ranging and deals with a lot else other than a single error on Panorama, much of which is symptomatic of systemic failure over many years.

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I’m not sure you’ve been keeping up with current events, but this whole story has erupted because the BBC is neither independent or unbiased.

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Again, if you were across this story, you would know that it’s not one mistake

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In what way is the BBC not independent?

The whole story seems to be one of incompetence and poor decision-making at the organisation.

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it's ideologically captured, I don't think Sky and CH4 are much better

more like one of pushing a narrative and view held by the programme makers.

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https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/donald...ry6-5HjdMsw_2/

Analysis of whether Trump can sue, where he can sue and how much of a case he has has been circulating on social media since this first started, but it has unfortunately been skewed around partisan divides. Long-term critics of the BBC and Trump supporters have been saying he has a slam-dunk case and the BBC is in serious trouble; supporters of the Beeb and Trump critics have said he has little chance.

I did see Robert Preston report that the BBC's legal advice mirrors this LBC article in saying that American courts probably won't have jurisdiction and that the bar is quite high for libel in America anyway. Preston's reporting did say that Trump could sue in the UK, but the BBC are more willing to contest that as the sums involved would be much smaller.

Again, some pundits are saying the BBC is skewed and should pay a huge settlement to stop the action, but it seems the BBC has decided it's better to fight it.

We'll see if, where and when Trump files his suit.

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Trump filing a suit is irrelevant, the BBC and certain politicians are imploding over it.

Trump just needs to keep threatening and let the chaos continue.

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Yes he is a lover of chaos and bullying. However legal opinion is that he has no chance, but maybe that's not the objective. . Anything to divert from the Epstein files nasty rumours he performed a sexual act on Bill Clinton. Malicuous stuff (probably), and unbelievable if it was anyone else.
https://metro.co.uk/2025/11/14/bubba...ails-24710912/

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There’s legal opinion for both sides. Sadly that opinion as to his chances of success tends to align with one’s personal opinion of Trump.

I did share a link to a former Newsnight producer last week (who has subsequently been in senior positions with both Sky and Channel 5, so by no means some anonymous lanyard) who thought it was actionable.

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More reporting from America suggesting it's unlikely in their courts: https://archive.ph/CMxMR

The two biggest issues seem to be jurisdiction and convincing a court that his reputation was materially damaged by the report.

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Which is the bigger crime , a badly edited documentary or inciting a riot to overturn a democratic election ? Its Trump that should be in court. The US 'justice' system and its constitution are corrupt and bonkers.

Meanwhile Putin eyes up Poland. A real world leader would be turning their attention to that rather than the BBC, making himself richer ,and trying to cover up sex scandals.

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Let’s edit this….

Lets not, editing quotes of other peoples posts is not really allowed.

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Putin eyes up Poland??

That train 'explosion' could just as well have been a sly attempt by Ukraine to get people thinking . . well, exactly what you probably did.

That nice Mr Zelenski chap needs help, and what better way to get it than stirring up Nato a little more :D

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Amusingly enough, the person (Prescott) who wrote the report stating the BBC edited Trump’s speech also edited Trump’s speech in the report…

https://www.thenewworld.co.uk/james-...ps-bbc-attack/


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Strangely enough, that’s what the Ruski bots are posting…

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is that you Mr McCarthy? ;)

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https://i2-prod.footballscotland.co....S280602099.jpg


I'm a bit older than him...

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:D

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...om-parents-uk/


Unless OFCOM iis as riddled with the enemy as is the BBC (and civil service), it is this move that is the most definitive test of OFCOM's impartiality. This one will run.

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The attack on children via this ideology is this country’s next major medical scandal. There are perfectly healthy young people in the UK who have been irreversibly sterilised and mutilated because of ideologically driven healthcare providers who told the kids they were trans and then performed Frankenstein surgery on them. The cheerleaders in the BBC and other arts and media who decided to treat trans as a ‘celeberate diversity’ issue rather than a ‘critically asses novel social theory’ issue are going to have to start getting their excuses lined up because they could very easily end up looking like they have blood on their hands.

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Bit of a stretch to try and blame the BBC for all this ? Whats it got to do with the head of news resigning?

I reckon the Beeb are also to blame for climate change, the economy, Ukraine, Trump, Brexit being crap, and the price of spuds....

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Cheerleading, egging on … famously they had a show on CBeebies (mysteriously taken off iPlaye a couple of years ago) in which a man is seen explaining to a class of infant age kids (i.e. under 7) that there are 100 genders, as if that were either established science (it isn’t) or the state religion (which at times it seems to be).

Obviously the BBC won’t have caused the medical scandal but those who gave uncritical airtime to this nonsense will, hopefully, have to find space for a lot of quiet reflection.

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Which, strangely enough, shows that shit can flow uphill if there's enough people pushing it

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To be honest, I neither know nor care who is the king of the hill, I just know (well, my opinion obviously) that the BBC has been an ever growing pile of manure for at least 5 years . . mainly, it seems, due to a strange (some would say misguided) attempt to please all the minority factions that scream to be heard and seen at the expense of normality.

Still . . . diversity and inclusion is the way forward . . allegedly . . :rofl:

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So if someone’s in a minority, they’re not normal?

"Representation" is quite important, because, as the old saying goes,

"if you can’t see it, you can’t be it…"

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'normal' as in 75% of the general population

'not normal' as in various groups, factions, etc that are probably individually 1.372% of the general population . . . although scream loudly about how 'under represented' they are :D

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It's still everywhere. Diversity, Equity and Inclusion is still alive an well in Corporate land. Just some of the events available at work this year

Pride Month
Trans-Awareness Week
Trans Day of Remembrance
Black History Month
Neuro-diversity Week
South Asian Week
Disability Pride
Anti-Racism
Hacking Masculine Culture
Health Equalities
Gaysians How Compassion helps us (I kid you not)
Bisexual Awareness Week
World Afro Day

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What kind of company do you work at? That's a lot

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Wife used to work (social care) for the local council . . . she was often in 'training sessions' like those instead of doing the real work.

She's quit now and is much happier doing a different role (less money more hours) as a teaching assistant . . although there are still occasional training sessions

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What about the other 23.628%?

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I think the answer there is where I used the word 'individually' . . as in one off, on their own . . and lots of little 1.3's (approx) can add up to a nice round 23.6 . . isn't that how stats work? :D

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Many questions, what's a gaysian, world arfo day involves wearing a wig :confused:

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A well know telecommunications company that gave birth to the original incarnation of this site.

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If it’s who I think you are referring to, you have my condolences!